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PostSat Oct 03, 2009 11:32 pm » by Cornbread714


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cornbread714 wrote:
I think you're wrong. I think the video is a semi-lavish fake. Somebody took a short piece of video and added the jets and UFOs. It looks like the helicopter might be real. The soundtrack could be made by anyone with some sound effect samples and a cheap studio (like mine).
Note how the jets make an impossible turn within a half second. ANYBODY with half a brain and some editing experience can make this stuff, just ask Drex or Six.
Understand one thing, you can sell fakes to news programs, especially in backwards countries.
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Alright, I get your point. This could all have been added subsequently.


No big deal, it was pretty impressive at first glance. And I could be wrong, it just seems fake to me.
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PostSat Oct 03, 2009 11:38 pm » by Snutz


When I showed the video to my father, we asked the same thing about the jets. Either they are fake, or there were 2 sets of jets closing in on that spot from different directions, which is entirely possible.

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PostSat Oct 03, 2009 11:41 pm » by Rawdney


snutz wrote:When I showed the video to my father, we asked the same thing about the jets. Either they are fake, or there were 2 sets of jets closing in on that spot from different directions, which is entirely possible.



In the HD video, you can now see them spin around. Looks a bit fast and unrealistic. (I'm no expert on fighter jets though :) )

Open it with Quicktime, and use the left and right arrow keys to advance frames.
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PostSat Oct 03, 2009 11:44 pm » by Spliffffstar


rawdney wrote:
snutz wrote:When I showed the video to my father, we asked the same thing about the jets. Either they are fake, or there were 2 sets of jets closing in on that spot from different directions, which is entirely possible.



In the HD video, you can now see them spin around. Looks a bit fast and unrealistic.



Well you could argue that this was a air fight situation and that the two pilots went all out to get that ufo, but that's too much speculation for even my taste.

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PostSun Oct 04, 2009 12:09 am » by Electrobadgr


The HD Video is amazing! real or not. if it is fake a lot of time and money must have been needed and it begs the question why? surely there is no money to be made from freely distributing this video on youtube, the money spent making it would have to come from someone expecting a return at some point. So if its real, where are the men in the video now?

I have a strong feeling that disclosure is imminent, most probably before the end of the year. Whether its what we all thought it would be is another consideration.

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PostSun Oct 04, 2009 12:18 am » by Tunique1


spliffffstar wrote:
rawdney wrote:
snutz wrote:When I showed the video to my father, we asked the same thing about the jets. Either they are fake, or there were 2 sets of jets closing in on that spot from different directions, which is entirely possible.



In the HD video, you can now see them spin around. Looks a bit fast and unrealistic.



Well you could argue that this was a air fight situation and that the two pilots went all out to get that ufo, but that's too much speculation for even my taste.

:cheers:

I think you argue right on that dog fight...

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PostSun Oct 04, 2009 1:50 am » by Seenitdunit


Jets can,t turn in 5 seconds well the Mig 29 can. Hard back on the stick left full rudder and the plane does a stall turn WW2 pilots were doing this.

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PostSun Oct 04, 2009 2:12 am » by Ghostofedna


Better take EVERYTHING that you see on this site with a grain of salt. Unless you see it, touch it or f*uck it yourself, it's ALL repeated, second-hand information. Even IF something here is revealed as 'real'...how will your life change? Gonna stop paying taxes...no. Gonna riot in the streets.....no. Gonna throw your computer out the window....no.

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PostSun Oct 04, 2009 2:23 am » by Spliffffstar


seenitdunit wrote:Jets can,t turn in 5 seconds well the Mig 29 can. Hard back on the stick left full rudder and the plane does a stall turn WW2 pilots were doing this.

[youtube]<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/AyRAGrqsMAo&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/AyRAGrqsMAo&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>[/youtube]

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Thanks for the video, dude. Some of those maneuvers closely resemble what we see in that ufo vid. So, those planes could have in theory turned around that fast.

That gave us some nice insight. :flop:

ghostofedna wrote:Better take EVERYTHING that you see on this site with a grain of salt. Unless you see it, touch it or f*uck it yourself, it's ALL repeated, second-hand information. Even IF something here is revealed as 'real'...how will your life change? Gonna stop paying taxes...no. Gonna riot in the streets.....no. Gonna throw your computer out the window....no.

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I agree, but it still would be satisfying on some level to clearly know that this video is real(or fake for that matter). Now, it's just hanging in the air.

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PostSun Oct 04, 2009 2:50 pm » by Tunique1


spliffffstar wrote:
seenitdunit wrote:Jets can,t turn in 5 seconds well the Mig 29 can. :?: :?:

4.2 seconds..max....this is no airshow... 1.decelerate and slight left pivot 2. hard right..3...end phase of 3seconds (around 3.7) acceleration and 4 course corrections to 4.2 about the same hight of beginning of turn (left).. (could be seen as half 8 or drop shape like)

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Thanks for the video, dude. Some of those maneuvers closely resemble what we see in that ufo vid. So, those planes could have in theory turned around that fast.

That gave us some nice insight. :flop:

ghostofedna wrote:Better take EVERYTHING that you see on this site with a grain of salt. Unless you see it, touch it or f*uck it yourself, it's ALL repeated, second-hand information. Even IF something here is revealed as 'real'...how will your life change? Gonna stop paying taxes...no. Gonna riot in the streets.....no. Gonna throw your computer out the window....no.

Change yourself and your world will change around you.
Dick Hertz


I agree, but it still would be satisfying on some level to clearly know that this video is real(or fake for that matter). Now, it's just hanging in the air.

:clapper:

check MIB post 48... :help:
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