The Order of Initiated Knights and Companions of St John of

[Phaeton Profile]

The Order of Initiated Knights and Companions of St John of Asia in Europe

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[Edgar 2.0 Profile]

So what's the deal?

[Phaeton Profile]

The deal, my dear Edgar, is a look into this order's paradigm.

[Edgar 2.0 Profile]

I don't know...
With the exception of Ganjavi's poetry everything on that blog is a bunch of bullshit.

It's a mishmash of randomly picked Esoteric vignettes.

[Phaeton Profile]

I don't know...
With the exception of Ganjavi's poetry everything on that blog is a bunch of bullshit.

It's a mishmash of randomly picked Esoteric vignettes.

Your opinion is noted.

Thank you Edgar.

[Edgar 2.0 Profile]

I don't know...
With the exception of Ganjavi's poetry everything on that blog is a bunch of bullshit.

It's a mishmash of randomly picked Esoteric vignettes.

Your opinion is noted.

Thank you Edgar.

Duly taken, Phaeton.

Additionaly, while i was browsing through the "links" page, i couldn't help noticing that almost all of the liks were dead.

One link that i noticed particularly, was the Croatian logde of (roughly translated) "winged sphere".

This "lodge" was formed by former students of mine from the Philosophy Cathedre of the Universitas Zagrebienses. Lousy students as they were, they couldn't cope with the Western Esoterics, drunk and stoned, they wished more.

But there's no more.

Stupid motherfuckers.

[Phaeton Profile]

I don't know...
With the exception of Ganjavi's poetry everything on that blog is a bunch of bullshit.

It's a mishmash of randomly picked Esoteric vignettes.

Your opinion is noted.

Thank you Edgar.

Duly taken, Phaeton.

Additionaly, while i was browsing through the "links" page, i couldn't help noticing that almost all of the liks were dead.

One link that i noticed particularly, was the Croatian logde of (roughly translated) "winged sphere".

This "lodge" was formed by former students of mine from the Philosophy Cathedre of the Universitas Zagrebienses. Lousy students as they were, they couldn't cope with the Western Esoterics, drunk and stoned, they wished more.

But there's no more.

Stupid motherfuckers.

I also found that. There are valuable ones still live though.

Please tell me more Edgar.. about your role and experiences in this context, sounds fascinating..

[Edgar 2.0 Profile]

While it may sound fascinating, it really isn't. And there's no my "role" at all.
I, as a cultural anthropologist, was teaching pretty much strict themes. Mind you, communist Yugoslavia was still existing during the eighties, and very important topic for communist oligarchy was Vinča Culture, roughly located in today's Serbia -then a part of Yugoslavia. So i had to supress all that i've learned and taught of, and concentrate on this (however fascinating it is...) narrow field. Of course, now and then i sneaked out of these narrow borders and swimmed through the waters of comparative Anthopology ( i wish there was the term of comparative anthropology), along with my students. So in reality i've taught them a lot of different things, not factually important to their chosen topic, but (in my opinion) important en generale. You can't value the importance of something unless you compare it to something else. Western Esotericism was one of
the things. Vinča culture wasn't just there. It was the result of Proto-Indo-Aryan movements throughout the early ages. Along with their famous alphabet and pottery and agricultural skills, it didn't just fell off the sky. They must've learned the skills, or inherited it. The same thing is with what we today call the Western Esotericism. It's not something that happened (and was used) just like that.
Anyway, about the stupid students...mesmerised by the vast National library (mind you, former Yugoslavia was a place with a large Templar culture for starters, the spring of (Western) Esoteric knowledge...) and the access they've had by using my name (plus my integrity and the position of a professor too...) they've started to borrow and use books and materials they knew nothing about. Can you imagine the result and influence of wrongly interpreted allegories of John Dee, Bacon, Kircher to an (yet) uncapable mind? One of my former students, named Aleksandar Miles, stole around 1500 (!) valuable esoteric books (16th, 17th and 18th century) from the Croatian National Library in 1989., worth more than million and half Euro in today's money. Then he shot himself.

For these reasons, i'm always for the embracing of Esotericism only by "elite". Not "Illuminati" or Masons or social status or whatever people might consider as "elite". I'm talking about the proper education and mind-frame, the capability of understanding the matter.

Otherwise, you get Rosenberg and Hitler with their false understanding of Aryan "supremacy", etc. Savitri Devi, Serrano, and bullshitters like them...And then you have got a millions of people dead.

Esotericism is not for everyone. Quod licet iovi, non licet bovi.

[Phaeton Profile]

While that may not be fascinating, its certainly interesting to say the least.
Thank you for sharing that Edgar.

Could you give an exemplary quote that would fit this category of often wrongly interpreted allegories?

[mediasorcery Profile]

While it may sound fascinating, it really isn't. And there's no my "role" at all.
I, as a cultural anthropologist, was teaching pretty much strict themes. Mind you, communist Yugoslavia was still existing during the eighties, and very important topic for communist oligarchy was Vinča Culture, roughly located in today's Serbia -then a part of Yugoslavia. So i had to supress all that i've learned and taught of, and concentrate on this (however fascinating it is...) narrow field. Of course, now and then i sneaked out of these narrow borders and swimmed through the waters of comparative Anthopology ( i wish there was the term of comparative anthropology), along with my students. So in reality i've taught them a lot of different things, not factually important to their chosen topic, but (in my opinion) important en generale. You can't value the importance of something unless you compare it to something else. Western Esotericism was one of
the things. Vinča culture wasn't just there. It was the result of Proto-Indo-Aryan movements throughout the early ages. Along with their famous alphabet and pottery and agricultural skills, it didn't just fell off the sky. They must've learned the skills, or inherited it. The same thing is with what we today call the Western Esotericism. It's not something that happened (and was used) just like that.
Anyway, about the stupid students...mesmerised by the vast National library (mind you, former Yugoslavia was a place with a large Templar culture for starters, the spring of (Western) Esoteric knowledge...) and the access they've had by using my name (plus my integrity and the position of a professor too...) they've started to borrow and use books and materials they knew nothing about. Can you imagine the result and influence of wrongly interpreted allegories of John Dee, Bacon, Kircher to an (yet) uncapable mind? One of my former students, named Aleksandar Miles, stole around 1500 (!) valuable esoteric books (16th, 17th and 18th century) from the Croatian National Library in 1989., worth more than million and half Euro in today's money. Then he shot himself.

For these reasons, i'm always for the embracing of Esotericism only by "elite". Not "Illuminati" or Masons or social status or whatever people might consider as "elite". I'm talking about the proper education and mind-frame, the capability of understanding the matter.

Otherwise, you get Rosenberg and Hitler with their false understanding of Aryan "supremacy", etc. Savitri Devi, Serrano, and bullshitters like them...And then you have got a millions of people dead.

Esotericism is not for everyone. Quod licet iovi, non licet bovi.

which reminds me of an hermetic axiom, the lips of wisdom are sealed except to the ears of understanding,

and the other one about casting pearls at swine? fukin good little read edgar.