States wishing to peacefully secede from the US

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PostTue Nov 13, 2012 5:11 pm » by domdabears


@Toxic, Maybe in some crazy conspiracy our Government works for the Queen, but no ordinary American citizen gives a flying fuck about that dumb cunt. She's only on our mind when some retard brings her up. She's not even thought about over here.

Like she don't even exist.
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PostTue Nov 13, 2012 5:21 pm » by Scouser012


domdabears wrote:@Toxic, Maybe in some crazy conspiracy our Government works for the Queen, but no ordinary American citizen gives a flying fuck about that dumb cunt. She's only on our mind when some retard brings her up. She's not even thought about over here.

Like she don't even exist.

The same can be said over here really! :D

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PostTue Nov 13, 2012 5:41 pm » by The57ironman


domdabears wrote:@Toxic, Maybe in some crazy conspiracy our Government works for the Queen, but no ordinary American citizen gives a flying fuck about that dumb cunt. She's only on our mind when some retard brings her up. She's not even thought about over here.

Like she don't even exist.

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PostTue Nov 13, 2012 6:59 pm » by Toxic32


What you are missing is the fact that the Queen and royal family are a business (they even refer to themselves as the FIRM) and they love it when you Americans kiss their arse and spend all those hard earned dollars in the UK. Ok we have to put up with the hangers on, by that I'm referring to the extended family that leaches off the tax payer. But that's small change when put against what they earn for the country. And we all need a laugh from time to time. Any way you know that Americans have a secret desire to be taken back under our wing. Only problem is from what I can glean you are being over run by the Mexicans and it wont be long before the native tong will be Spanish. So get the fuck back under our wing whilst you still speak English (of a sort) Yanks we still love and miss you. I'm sure we can work it out to both our advantages.

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PostTue Nov 13, 2012 7:25 pm » by 99socks


Toxic32 wrote:So get the fuck back under our wing whilst you still speak English (of a sort) Yanks we still love and miss you. I'm sure we can work it out to both our advantages.





The ironic FACT is that the native land of any language is always home to the most dialects and the faster accumulation of linguistic change. In other words: as a general rule, colonies have a more conservative linguistic base, and are home to fewer changes... which means that American dialects in general are actually closer to 17th and 18th century English than modern dialects in the UK are.

Kinda like how Quebec is stuck with ancient French. :mrgreen:
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PostTue Nov 13, 2012 7:30 pm » by domdabears


Toxic32 wrote:And we all need a laugh from time to time. Any way you know that Americans have a secret desire to be taken back under our wing.

That is a laugh.

We'll keep laughing at that one.

Maybe I'll trade in my xbox 360 for Atari.

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PostTue Nov 13, 2012 8:10 pm » by Seahawk


White House to respond after 70,000 demand secession of Texas from US
13 November, 2012, 21:52


Houston, we have a problem: more than 70,000 people have signed a petition on the website of the White House asking for Texas to secede from the United States.

Less than a day after RT first reported that a petition demanding the secession of The Lone Star State from the US was on track to cross the 25,000 signature threshold to warrant an official response, the tally of people requesting the speedy removal of Texas from the United States tripled, going from 21,777 signees to 72,861 in under 24 hours.

The Texas petition was published on the White House’s official website on November 9, but wasn’t the first to ask for secession. While the request from the oil-rich home of the Alamo was published just two days after Pres. Obama was declared victorious in his quest for re-election, Louisiana was the first state to ask for an exit from the union on WhiteHouse.gov, just hours after ballots were tallied on Nov. 6. By the end of that weekend, Texas and 18 other locales had created copycat petitions of their own, although the Lone Star State is by and large the first to cross the 25,000 signature threshold.

According to the rules on WhiteHous.gov, now either US President Barack Obama or a member of his administration or staff will be required to address the overwhelming number of votes to “Peacefully grant the State of Texas to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government.”

The next step, according to a guide posted on the executive office’s website, will be a full review followed by a response.

From WhiteHouse.gov:

“The White House will convene a regular meeting with representatives from all of the major policy offices (like the National Economic Council, Domestic Policy Council and others) that will review petitions that have crossed the signature threshold for a response. This group will help determine which policy office in the White House or federal agency should review and respond to petitions and ensure that petition responses are posted as quickly as possible.”

....Another petition asking President Obama to “Strip the Citizenship from Everyone who Signed a Petition to Secede and Exile Them” has so far received 1,754 signatures.


Read the rest at the RT link below.





http://rt.com/usa/news/white-house-texas-secede-612/


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PostTue Nov 13, 2012 8:16 pm » by 99socks


Seahawk wrote:
....Another petition asking President Obama to “Strip the Citizenship from Everyone who Signed a Petition to Secede and Exile Them” has so far received 1,754 signatures.





Hooooly fuck..... I must have a built-in crystal ball!


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PostTue Nov 13, 2012 10:00 pm » by 420milehigh


14 more states have filed petitions, here is an article from infowars (yeah i know a lot of you don't like alex jones but don't ignore important information)... so now 34 states, this is epic... :banana: :nails:

http://www.infowars.com/citzens-from-34 ... m-the-u-s/

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PostTue Nov 13, 2012 11:40 pm » by Chronicnerd


Well,

I have read through *almost* all of the posts here on this one subject... and I have heard a lot of people complaining about Texans signing a petition to secede from the "republic" (which this *was* the original foot print until liberal socialistic ideologies started taking over in the early 1900's).

So, Texas gets 38 electoral votes... however:
http://super-economy.blogspot.com/2011/ ... texas.html

Texas is the 14th *largest* economy in the *world*... and no...the federal government had *NOT ONE THING* to do with this...nor did someone from California...or New York...or anywhere else in the United States. The people of Texas have always voted for someone who would be fiscally smart, economically minded, and assure that the state level officials play the role they should: "to protect, maintain, and help when help is needed *and* asked for...

However, here we are... while California's GDP numbers are higher...their debt to GDP ration is *WAY* higher...and is more of a liability to the US (California) than an asset... Texas provides the most jobs...Texas protects the largest border... Texas provides the most chemicals and petrolium facilities within the U.S...and most Texans don't care if you are black, white, yellow, or purple... as long as you do your fair share in work effort...then you are "A OK" in anyone's book.

I have lived around the world... literally... all different parts...and while it has been some time since I was outside of the U.S., the general feedback I got from people when I said I was originally from Texas was that we were "very friendly people"...

Now, you have a state in America who's people have been pulling *way more* than their "fair share" if you were to compare what Texas does for the economy as a whole to their "electoral college" voting share...and now that most Texans have relized there are more people out there who would rather have someone who would take money from "those other rich people's pockets" and put it into their pockets than to "make their own destiny"... which is *not the American dream*...

People *flee* their countries to get away from this type of governing body...

So...to those who are in favor of "tracking down" the people who signed the petition and doing anything negative to them...well...I can say that if this *actually* was attempted you would end up in a large scale civil war...because Texans would 100% not stand for their people being judged for invoking their rights...freedom of speech and the methods and proceedures associated with petitioning changes is one of our rights...in case anyone needs to be reminded.

Which...either way you break it down...civil unrest and war in Texas means the Texas economy collapses...which means more than 1/3rd of the U.S. GDP goes away... which means 1/3rd of the taxes are not collected...which means not as many hand outs... or Texas secedes and the same economic issues happen... or they just ignore it...

You know... like how Obama blatantly LIED during the debate?? How Hilary Clinton thinks of herself "above" the law when it comes to a court order? How the Obama administration is pushing out over 4500 new regulations that will add an additional 500 BILLION dollar increase in spending...which in turn translates to more taxes...and finally...and here is going to be the kicker for all of the folks who voted for Obama:

The Pre-Bush Tax Cuts Will, on average, take between $5,000 to $35,000 additional taxes from *ALL* Americans...to pay for all of their new programs and regulations and regulation commities...and CZARS...and finally...the biggest issue:

Companies are already starting to plan for *massive lay-offs*... why? Obama-care... is cost prohibitive...all Americans will experience one of the following if not several in the next year:
1.) Loss of job
2.) Increase in taxes...where you might actually end up *OWING* the government this next tax season...yeah...all those monkies didn't think about that one...tax withholding was done based on the current Tax ratings...so...*everyone* who has federal income taxes withheld have *not* been withholding enough this past year...
3.) Increase in cost of goods, many companies plan on just passing the "Obamacare" costs on to the end consumer...you know... that box of "XZY" used to cost $3.49 but now costs $3.99...for one item that is fine...but now what do you think happens when 35-40% of consumer goods has this happen? Cost of living goes up... taxes are up... and jobs are down...

So... then you have Texas... a state that maintains a better GDP coupled with GDP to debt ration than any other state... who has continued to *grow* and/or maintain in most economic sectors when most other states have been tanking... and we see *all* of the states who have allowed their "government" take over...who have *NO CLUE* how the economy works...and just "want stuff for free"... you know...let that 1% pay for all of it...

If the tables were turned... if you lived in a region where your votes and ideologies are *working* even in a major economic collapse... and you see that the "majority" of the people in other less fiscally responsible states are pretty much *ignorant* of their actions and the actions of their elected officials...

Yeah...I am pretty sure you would see the writing on the wall... everyone coming over to your hard earned piggy bank to pull from that...eventually the amount paid out vs taken "home" would be exceeded...and then everyone loses...

When someone is drowning you don't jump right in to grab them...you get something for them to grab onto and pull them in...else risk being taken down with them...

Texas has provided this environment for anyone and everyone willing to move down here... that is why over the past 4 years Texas has seen...

http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/prin ... texas.html
http://blogs.wsj.com/health/2008/05/19/ ... rt-reform/
http://www.dallasnews.com/business/colu ... r-jobs.ece
http://jan.blog.ocregister.com/2011/06/ ... xas/60071/
http://socaltech.com/fallbrook_technolo ... 46028.html
http://theweek.com/article/index/204275 ... 5-theories
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2011/05/18/texa ... alifornia/

So... while I think everyone should be concerned over this...I also think that everyone should *try* to think outside of the box here...heck when Obama was elected I was actually *HOPING* he would do, at a minimum, a *fair* job... but as things happened and it became *obvious* to anyone with an IQ over 100 that he was just spewing lies every time he spoke... I and many other people with an IQ over 100 began to question and then began to become active in trying to prevent a very large mistake that *could* set America back for *DECADES*.

Why do I say IQ over 100??
http://sq.4mg.com/NationIQ.htm

So... Koko the Gorilla ~relatively~ scored somewhere between 75-100....
uring the course of the study, Koko has advanced further with language than any other non-human. Koko has a working vocabulary of over 1000 signs. Koko understands approximately 2,000 words of spoken English. Koko initiates the majority of conversations with her human companions and typically constructs statements averaging three to six words. Koko has a tested IQ of between 70 and 95 on a human scale, where 100 is considered "normal." Michael, the male silverback gorilla who grew up with Koko, had a working vocabulary of over 600 signs.


http://www.koko.org/world/

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/iq-tests-iq-score-interpretation.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/30/science/30profile.html?ex=1125547200&en=631977063d726261&ei=5070

IQ is a measurement of how capable one can grasp concepts and build from them to understand more complicated derivations of said concepts. While there is a % of people who have learning disabilities...that is a *drop* in the bucket when it comes to the amount of people in America who have no clue...

So... in a more liberal state...the more intelligent folk can persuade the less intelligent folk to believe pretty much anything...economy is recovering...jobs are coming back...Romney wants to kill your grandmother...Romney wants to poison your water...etc..etc..

While people in a more conservative state can be influenced by the more intelligent folk...

There can come a point, with electoral voting based on population and not contribution, can become widely less capable of understanding some of the more complicated issues...and as such the masses listen to their "local wise people" and will typically follow the leader of their "local packs/groups".

So... as an example... the cost of that expensive "gas" in California...
Uh..
http://www.texasinsider.org/in-congressional-testimony-texas-energy-chief-elizabeth-ames-jones-challenges-obama-on-offshore-drilling/

Yeah..but back then...he was saying we had "plenty of resources"...when it was a stink... now people are lining up for blocks to get gas...some people paying between $5 to $9 a gallon...

Another good link:
http://www.brianarner.com/weblog/archives/001527.html

While I am not directly blaming those with a lower IQ...because there are all sorts of reasons why someone would rather watch TV day in and out rather than...well you know... read books...and learn new things...

http://www.wikihow.com/Improve-Your-IQ

So we end up with a scenario where you have large pockets of long term liberal ideologies built into the fabric of their state and city sociological structures...which when the number of *followers* in these regions exceeds the number of *leaders*...you will see regions that reflect a majority "consensus" of an ideology or political belief. With this being said...
http://beforeitsnews.com/election-2012/2012/11/massive-voter-fraud-obama-wins-99-of-vote-in-100%E2%80%B2s-of-precincts-gop-inspectors-forced-out-provisional-ballots-ignored-2447026.html

While I don't believe this is actual voted fraud... I do believe there is a *saturation* in some key states that have run into fiscal issues due to economic and state policy decisions...which is a direct reflection of the "general voting consensus" of the population in those regions.

Obama had *zero* large scale management experience, had never held any form of a real public job, has all sorts of questions as to what his idea of a "Perfect America" is, and has passed more regulations and "liberal" oriented legislation than any liberal/democratic President before him... while also adding more than 6 Trillion to our national debt. For anyone with a "logical" mind on the liberal side, they got a lot of motion in their favor but their elected President also has shown signs of not being able to tell the truth, not being able to properly handle international issues, and not knowing how to jump start our economy...and as such the "logical" choice would be to vote for someone who has had large scale management experience, has worked very well with democratic members, who has held high positions in the real corporate world...

However... this is not what we saw... what we saw this past election was the "tipping point" of a "IQ deprived Zombie Nation" that will believe pretty much anything their "local wise folk" say... and place their future and their kids future on a party who has had an *ENORMOUS* amount of fraud, cheating, lies, and resignations in their very own party... how many Republicans resigned because they sent naked pictures of themselves to teenagers?

So... yeah... Texans have a right to voice their opinion and to at a *very minimum* let the record show that we wanted *nothing to do* with the "Obama Future"...whether that will ~really~ happen?

More than likely not...

But...if liberals can camp out in city streets, destroy property, do drugs, cause violence, all in the name of "the 1%" without being "expelled" from the U.S....

Then I am not quite sure why anyone would be *so upset* about a petition to secede from the U.S.... because it is *just a petition* and will probably cost the tax payers no more than $100k when all is said in done in regards to processing and time to discuss... where as the OWS... cost the tax payer upwards of $30 Million in damages....

So again... just based on the liberal mind's response to a petition...and their "praise" for people looting and vandalizing city streets...

Yeah... darned right we want out of this gig!
The left wing has *TRULY* lost all common sense and logic in their actions...and could be easily viewed as a "drowning victim"...the economic success to Texas is pretty much common knowledge to anyone...a blueprint on a healthy economy... and yet most states...especially the more liberal minded ones...have *still* kept banging their heads against the more socialistic minded ideologies that *historically* have *never* worked...

Why would people who have been carrying over 1/3rd of the GDP and providing the most energy resources in America want to pay anything towards people who have no desire to improve their lives for themselves and are all about taking the rewards of hard work from states like Texas so they can have "free stuff"...

That is not "fair" in any logical way... you eat what you kill...that is a fundamental law...or...what you put into it...you get out of it...

You want someone else to "handle all those complicated things" so you can sit back and watch TV or do anything *but* self improvement? Yeah... sure... and I want to be given a million $$ and a unicorn named Fred who can sing...but are either scenarios realistic? Not really...not at all...

So... let the games begin... you can be angry at one of the largest providers of the federal tax income...but oppressing...name calling...threats... yeah...not going to make Texans all of the sudden go "oh...well in that case...sure...here I will just roll over"...

Texans will hold out until the very last person is no longer standing... that is a "sociological" thing integrated heavily into our local society... the Alamo reflected this ideology... and even today it sticks with the majority of the people who were born and raised here...

So... you want to keep one of the larger GDP providers of the US?

Yeah...might want to start asking more questions like:
"Why is the population of the largest GDP provider in America so upset and what middle grounds can we help encourage amongst our local and state level representation in order to keep them?"

Threats...negativity...only gonna add the fuel to the fire... want to try ejecting 70,000 (that is a close aproximate number as of right now 11-13-2012) from Texas using the federal government???

Heh...yeah...that just will never happen...and if it does... well...as said before...same results... loss in over 1/3rd of the taxes collected...which only means there will be less money to pay for all of those awesome new programs Obama has in store for everyone...

*nuff* said...
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