Submitted For Your Approval: The Alien Agenda

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PostTue Dec 02, 2008 4:48 am » by Ufongo


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In this paper I will attempt to put forward a hypothesis of the alien agenda BASED ONLY ON THE FACTS THAT CAN’T BE DISPUTED, AND EXPECTATIONS THAT LIE WITHIN THE REALM OF LOGIC.
Based on what we have learnt about the known universe the probability that intelligent life exist outside planet earth is 1. Current estimates within the scientific community put the number of intelligent civilizations in our galaxy in the tens of millions. The earth is a sphere surrounded by star systems in all quadrants so the odds are that we should be getting visits from multiple groups from multiple sources in all directions. The multiple group theory would seem to support the observations of UFOs which seem to visit without a predictable pattern. Such traffic could lead to conflict for access between these groups as might have been reported in the UFO 'battle' over Nuremberg, Germany in 1561 http://www.ufoevidence.org/cases/case486.htm Image
Here is what we know for sure, they are not interested in making formal contact and written reports of their visits go back thousands of years. So why are they here? Universally life is rare, all life is important but human life probably is the most interesting on this planet. Based on these facts we can deduce some logical purposes for their visits. (1) CURIOSITY, as might be the case with the groups of tourist that have for decades visited the Serengeti in their jeeps to stare at the wildlife. Or the UFOs we see are the equivalent of TV crews putting together a show about us for an alien audience like we produce Meerkat Manor for our viewing pleasure http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1411683072/tt0765725 Image
If the observations are scientific in nature then it suggest that these groups are not sharing information amongst themselves hence new groups keep coming to conduct their own research. (2) EXPLOITATION. No species that we know of on earth is too specialized, too good at doing whatever it does to refuse exploiting another species that can perform some of its task. Nature is full of such parasitic or symbiotic relationships. In fact as in our history the more technologically advanced a people get the less self-reliant they become. The rich being the most dependent of all, even with the acquisition of high technology dependence grows as more experts are needed to design, build, operate and maintain these technologies. So it is very plausible that over the centuries the aliens have acquired human offspring that they have raised to be a part of their community, raised to willingly contribute to that community in partnership with their adopted parents. This might be evident in the Travis Walton case were he claims to have met a human. http://www.travis-walton.com/human.html Image.
These space humans would perhaps be as different from us today as dogs are from wolves. This is one abduction case that makes sense. The human brain is the most complicated system that we know of in the universe today. The idea that aliens know so much about how our brains work to be able to very specifically and selectively erase memory after an abduction, yet know so little about the rest of the human body so that they have to keep returning to conduct experiments or harvest eggs and sperm puzzles me. Today we know how to clone mammals and a human male and female pair can produce up to a million embryos without cloning. If you want diversity we know how to genetically engineer ourselves, so why do the aliens not know this? So at this time I do not subscribe to hypnotically regressed memories of such abductions. The only argument that can be made for this is that the space dwelling human populations need a frequent injection of current earth human DNA as earth is still the proving ground for our species. Or new and separate groups of space dwelling humans are seeded from every abduction.
As hybrids go genetically we are more closely related to sea slugs than to aliens. Image
If it were possible to cross two species separated by at least 4 billions years of evolution on separate planets, the idea of such a mating might be as repulsive to them as a half human half dog would be to us. We love our dogs a lot but I don’t think we would like to see dogman strolling along down the street. Such a creature would not be practical or fit to live in either world, the dog world or the human world.
Instead perhaps they are harvesting biological raw materials to create Non-sentient Artificial Biological Entities (NABE). Despite Hollywood’s portrayals of sentient electromechanical devices, we are far from being able to create artificial intelligence using integrated circuits. We have almost reached the limit of transistors allowable on a chip yet our best super computers still don’t have the intelligence of a cockroach. Nature’s materials might be unsurpassable, they could also use other species for raw materials, a cow perhaps. Such a NABE would not be able to reproduce it’s self sexually, each one would have to be built from scratch. Maybe this is why the aliens have a near permanent presents on earth.Image
A NABE would be expendable. The wealthier one gets the more valuable that life is perceived to be by all. I doubt that highly evolved highly advance aliens would risk their lives in a crash here on earth, and then not rescue the survivors. Perhaps the “Greys’ are NABEs expendable and replaceable.
This also rules out the idea of colonization. We are only a few generations removed from how our ancestors lived yet most of us in the developed countries would not make it past our 5th birthday without a battery of vaccinations. Even with the vaccines leaving our air conditioned homes to live in the tropics would be a death sentence. If so, for these aliens and space-humans the concept of living on earth is as unappealing as an adult wanting to return to its mother’s womb or a New York City dweller moving to live with a Stone Age Amazonian tribe http://www.survival-international.org/news/3340 Image
Since our days as hunter-gathers we have seen the size of the groups we belong to grow from tens of individuals to hundreds, thousands, millions, and now a billion (China, India) there is a direct relationship between the size of a group and the age of its civilization. I expect that advanced alien civilizations would be comprised of trillions of individuals making their home not on planets but in space itself. To them home might be just a region of space in which our solar system currently lies. For example some Amazonian tribes who have about 30 members don’t know that they are in the middle of a country of about 180 million of people called Brazil.
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PostTue Dec 02, 2008 5:11 am » by domdabears


Well first of all im in Chicago (big city dweller) and i would love to live out in the bush primitive syle, but the Mrs. wouldnt allow it. Second that tribe does know about us and has had contact but they choose to live like that. The authorities known about them since 1910 so theres obviously been contact. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/21/amazon
other than that i like the post :flop:
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PostTue Dec 02, 2008 8:44 am » by Hesop


Hey Ufongo, What should also be included, is the possibility that our race here is being re-created elsewhere for study. Therefore all variants of genetics derived from thousands of years of interbreeding among races could be necessary. For the outsider, one new to the UFO/alien phenom, the one thing that we tend to take for granted here, and not tend to allow much thought, is what could possibly actually make us quite unique in the populated universe, and therefore worthy of study.
That, being a planet populated BY various races, and not race specific. And, a populace that has forever been engaged in wars, that have been most commonly NOT race specific. It could be quite possible that other worlds of advanced species generate only one race, without the many variations of, and owe their advancement to working towards common goals, which no doubt would include the preservation and unity of their kind. They may then be quite baffled, as to why we as a people, on the edge of advancement, see the need to kill off our own kind, and hold no value to human life, or unity as a race. The scenario could quite easily exist, that other populated worlds then be race specific. Only occasionally coming to war when quite different species cross paths into collision. Could it be that our brains bear some genetic defect that fail to use them fully, and therefore do not realize the folly of our ways? One could easily understand then, that the people of Earth, and their ways, could be a threat to the rest of the universe should we make it off this rock to explore other worlds.
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PostTue Dec 02, 2008 10:30 am » by Clawspiracy


What if we don't need to be re-created? What if we are not as rare as we think, but just socially behind the times?

Most religious texts say that God created us in his image. If we posit that the ancients mistook aliens for Gods, then the possibility must be entertained that the "Gods" looked as we do now. If we are to believe Sitchin, for example, and be told that the Annunaki created us from experimenting with our genes, we must not be that different from the ones who did this.

The alien agenda would then be... How is the experiment going? Are they close to being us now?
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PostWed Dec 03, 2008 2:33 am » by Ufongo


domdabears wrote:that tribe does know about us and has had contact but they choose to live like that. The authorities known about them since 1910 so theres obviously been contact. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/21/amazon
other than that i like the post :flop:


The Brazilian authorities have known about them for decades but no contact has been made, they remain isolated. Similarly the aliens might have known about us for millennia but no formal contact has yet been made.
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PostWed Dec 03, 2008 3:02 am » by Ufongo


hesop wrote: That, being a planet populated BY various races, and not race specific. And, a populace that has forever been engaged in wars, that have been most commonly NOT race specific. It could be quite possible that other worlds of advanced species generate only one race, without the many variations of, The scenario could quite easily exist, that other populated worlds then be race specific.

Well, members of a specie are usually more finely tuned into the differences amongst its members and poorly tune to the differences in other species. For example to us bottled-nose dolphins all look alike but dolphins being a social species must be able to easily indentify and differentiate individual members of its groups and outsiders. And that applies to most other species. The differences that seem so important and apparent to us humans from earth region to region goes unnoticed by another species and probably more so by an alien specie. We humans even have trouble identify individuals of another race we have not been exposed to for long. At first to us, they all look alike and we can’t tell them apart. I feel certain that aliens would not notice or care about the distinctions that we call race any more than you notice were your dog's scent boundary begins and were the neighbor's dog's starts.

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PostWed Dec 03, 2008 3:14 am » by Ufongo


clawspiracy wrote:Most religious texts say that God created us in his image. If we posit that the ancients mistook aliens for Gods, then the possibility must be entertained that the "Gods" looked as we do now. If we are to believe Sitchin, for example, and be told that the Annunaki created us from experimenting with our genes, we must not be that different from the ones who did this.The alien agenda would then be... How is the experiment going? Are they close to being us now?

As we embark on this quest to uncover the truth, lets not completely abandon the facts we have learnt through scientific discovery. The archeological and genetic history of humans is well documented and supports our evolution on this planet and our relationship with other species, extinct and living. If any creation was involved you would have to go back 4 billions years to the primordial soup to find it.

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PostWed Dec 03, 2008 4:33 am » by Hesop


UFONGO wrote: I feel certain that aliens would not notice or care about the distinctions that we call race any more than you notice were your dog's scent boundary begins and were the neighbor's dog's starts.

:D WOW, you don't get out much, do you. If your statement were to be true, then they would have us grouped up with all the species of apes as well. Not being able to tell us apart from them. I guess I was wrong in believing that the true study of any Eco-system, be it a continent, remote island, or other planet, would be to first catalogue the species available and the many variations of, for study on their various interactions and their contributions/impact of said ecosystem. For a precise understanding of the condition and future of that ecosystem. Those would seem to be pertinent facts needed to then evaluate the possible impact of a foreign species intruding into that ecosystem. :flop:
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PostWed Dec 03, 2008 5:21 am » by domdabears


UFONGO wrote:
domdabears wrote:that tribe does know about us and has had contact but they choose to live like that. The authorities known about them since 1910 so theres obviously been contact. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/21/amazon
other than that i like the post :flop:


Wrong, the Brazilian authorities have known about them for decades but no contact has been made, they remain isolated. Similarly the aliens might have known about us for millennia but no formal contact has yet been made.

yeah that makes sense. the authorities knew about them but neither have ever seen each other. :hmmm:
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PostWed Dec 03, 2008 5:27 am » by Ufongo


hesop wrote: :D WOW, you don't get out much, do you.

Let’s put forward our points without getting personal. :D I am sure you are a nice guy and I do agree with you that unfortunately there are people that are FIXATED on group identity such as race, ethnicity etc. In scientific observation we can’t use your eyes alone otherwise we would believe that Shonisaurus a dinosaur is the same species as dolphins a mammal and Great Danes and Chiwawas are different species. I can only guess that the aliens will judge us based on what they believe our capabilities are. If other species of apes can be employed to operate and service their warp drive then they should be abducted too. Maybe they drop Bigfoot off to do some heavy lifting in the woods before they come back and pick him up. :D :D


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