Swine Flu Made in USA!

Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:14 pm » by **Drjones**

Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:20 pm » by **Darrylmckay**

It was my understanding that the flu first originated in mexico, in a small town that just happens to be next to an american multi national ( cant recall its name) pig farm, one of the biggest high density pig farms in the world, and due to the lacks regulations down there the people were living in pig shit all day, from pigs given all sorts of hormones and antibiotics to make them grow.

Fri Jun 26, 2009 6:22 pm » by **Crazynutsx**

Normally im am open minded to anything but this theory is just STUPID i think no one would create a flu the could potentially kill thousands of people.

Sorry guys i just don't believe this

Fri Jun 26, 2009 6:24 pm » by **Pindz**

RE:Swine Flu Made in USA!

TRUE

Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:16 pm » by **Snutz**

First you have to understand the characteristics of this virus. This is a Novel virus, or a rare/uncommon virus. It also mutated between flu seasons, when viruses lay dormant. Yes, you can still get the flu between flu seasons, BUT they don't mutate, unless in very specific conditions. Not only is the timing of this mutation questionable, but the types of viruses in which it consists of is questionable. Four viruses, from four continents, separated by the two largest oceans in the world : North American avian flu (bird flu), Asian swine flu, South American influenza A, and European influenza B.
Edit : The most recent mutation being specifically and only in the Hemogluttnin protein, which allows the virus to affect new hosts.

Now, on to the meds ....
Tamiflu was originally reported to be the only vaccine that worked in suppressing the effects of the H1N1 virus, which was still being called swine flu at the time. The medical community will tell you that not only is Tamiflu not effective, it can be harmful. Why do you think it's sold specifically as a reserve vaccine?

Roche laboratories markets Tamiflu, but Gilead sciences bought the patent in 1996. Donald Rumsfeld was then the CEO of Gilead, and remains a major share holder to this day.
90% of the tree that produces the Aniseed, which is crushed to make Tamiflu, is owned by Roche. To put it simply, it was business as usual.
However ......

Recent events seem to be implying something more sinister. Do you think an investigative journalist would file lawsuits against the WHO and the UN if she didn't have documents/testimony to support her claims of mass genocide and bio-terrorism? I know I wouldn't, and I'm pretty sure I can't think of anyone, right minded or not, who would.

Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:30 pm » by **Xenonymous**

yeah yeah yeah,blame it on the americans.

does CHI CHI's ring a bell?

they grew onions in mexican sewer trenches and human shit and sent it here to be eaten with your chicken chulupa.mmmmm...

Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:44 pm » by **Snutz**

xenonymous wrote:yeah yeah yeah,blame it on the americans.

does CHI CHI's ring a bell?

they grew onions in mexican sewer trenches and human shit and sent it here to be eaten with your chicken chulupa.mmmmm...

And who owned the farm where these onions were grown? If they were being sent to a fast food joint, I'd assume it was a Corporation! You people keep thinking only America is blamed here, and that's not true. America just happens to be the place where most of these people do business and live.

Did I say America was at fault? I certainly did not.

In fact, the only reference I can find in this whole thread that could even be taken that way is Pindz stating that he thought it was true that the virus was manifactured IN .... IN!!!! the USA, NOT BY IT!

Comprehension for sale ..... any buyers?

Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:55 pm » by **Xenonymous**

snutz wrote:
xenonymous wrote:yeah yeah yeah,blame it on the americans.

does CHI CHI's ring a bell?

they grew onions in mexican sewer trenches and human shit and sent it here to be eaten with your chicken chulupa.mmmmm...

And who owned the farm where these onions were grown? If they were being sent to a fast food joint, I'd assume it was a Corporation! You people keep thinking only America is blamed here, and that's not true. America just happens to be the place where most of these people do business and live.

Did I say America was at fault? I certainly did not.

In fact, the only reference I can find in this whole thread that could even be taken that way is Pindz stating that he thought it was true that the virus was manifactured IN .... IN!!!! the USA, NOT BY IT!

Comprehension for sale ..... any buyers?

i cromprendo.

Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:19 pm » by **Drjones**

snutz wrote:First you have to understand the characteristics of this virus. This is a Novel virus, or a rare/uncommon virus. It also mutated between flu seasons, when viruses lay dormant. Yes, you can still get the flu between flu seasons, BUT they don't mutate, unless in very specific conditions. Not only is the timing of this mutation questionable, but the types of viruses in which it consists of is questionable. Four viruses, from four continents, separated by the two largest oceans in the world : North American avian flu (bird flu), Asian swine flu, South American influenza A, and European influenza B.
Edit : The most recent mutation being specifically and only in the Hemogluttnin protein, which allows the virus to affect new hosts.

Now, on to the meds ....
Tamiflu was originally reported to be the only vaccine that worked in suppressing the effects of the H1N1 virus, which was still being called swine flu at the time. The medical community will tell you that not only is Tamiflu not effective, it can be harmful. Why do you think it's sold specifically as a reserve vaccine?

Roche laboratories markets Tamiflu, but Gilead sciences bought the patent in 1996. Donald Rumsfeld was then the CEO of Gilead, and remains a major share holder to this day.
90% of the tree that produces the Aniseed, which is crushed to make Tamiflu, is owned by Roche. To put it simply, it was business as usual.
However ......

Recent events seem to be implying something more sinister. Do you think an investigative journalist would file lawsuits against the WHO and the UN if she didn't have documents/testimony to support her claims of mass genocide and bio-terrorism? I know I wouldn't, and I'm pretty sure I can't think of anyone, right minded or not, who would.

Bravo....sir..bravo...very and i mean VERY well said :!:

Sat Jun 27, 2009 1:16 am » by **Flecktarn**

we live in a world where money means more than a human life so i think its a very good chance that swine flu is a bio weapon ,make a illness,cure the illness,make a fortune selling the cure ,look at all the corperate gangsters who sit on the boards of all the large drug companies ,because i wouldnt trust any of them. snutz well said :clapper: