Swiss watch found in 400-year-old tomb

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PostSun Jan 11, 2009 11:46 am » by Johnsmith


The Chinese translation from the news article is unclear, however, it appears to state that the item is made of bronze and has a traditional winder on the side.
http://www.newsflavor.com/World/Asia/Sw ... mb.435429#

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PostSun Jan 11, 2009 12:28 pm » by Johnsmith


Original web page in Chinese: http://bbs.beijingww.com/thread-8787-1-1.html

Translated version (machine translation, lol :cheers: ): http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... n%26sa%3DG

December 11 giant shot in the side of the coffin grave found in a pocket "watch" side, "watch" the strap is very long, and not the same as ordinary rings.

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广西出土巨棺渗不明液体共两具或为夫妻墓(图) Giant coffin unearthed in Guangxi unknown liquid infiltration or for a total of two couples tomb (Chart)

运输时流出不明液体考古专家“会诊”明清巨棺 Outflow of unidentified liquid transportation archaeological experts "consultations" on the Ming and Qing Dynasties giant coffin

真是匪夷所思,2008年12月11日,上思县前段时间出土的“三合土”巨棺的墓坑边,居然发现一个“手表”。 Is really incredible, December 11, 2008, Shangsi County unearthed earlier "concrete" giant coffin grave side, but still found a "watch." 当日,相关考古专家和中央电视台记者来到巨棺出土现场考察时,居然出现了这样匪夷所思的事情。 On that day, the relevant archaeological experts and CCTV reporter came to inspect the giant coffin unearthed, the surprise emergence of this incredible thing.

当日,中央电视台的2名记者和中国铜鼓研究会理事长、广西文物专家组组长、原广西壮族自治区博物馆馆长蒋廷瑜先生来到上思县,对该县11月下旬出土的两具石棺进行考察、采访报道。 On that day, CCTV two journalists and chairman of the China Research Society Tonggu, Guangxi, head of antiquities expert group, the original Museum of Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region came to Mr. Jiang Tingyu Shangsi County, in late November on the county unearthed two coffins carried out inspection coverage. 中午11点左右,考察报道组一行来到石棺出土现场,对现场和周边环境进行考察、录象时,发现巨棺(较小那个)出土的墓坑边还有一片5公斤左右的三合土(巨棺由三合土制成)。 11:00 about inspection reports group and his party arrived at the scene sarcophagus unearthed on the site and surrounding environment for the conduct of inspection, video, it was found that giant coffin (the smaller) unearthed a grave side there are about five kilograms of concrete (Giant Coffin made from concrete). 后来在挖出那片三合土碎片时,突然从三合土碎片底部掉下一个金属物品,在掉落下来碰到石头时,发出金属撞击的声音。 Later in the dug up concrete debris那片suddenly fell from the concrete debris at the bottom of a metal goods, in falling down a rock face, the issue of metal percussive voice. 考察报道组人员细心一找,在掉落的地方发现了一枚“戒指”。 Inspection team reported that one carefully to find a place in the fall found that a "ring."

经辨认,这枚“戒指”是铜质,与普通戒指一样大小,“戒指”表面呈手表形状,时针和分针指向10点6分,边缘也有像手表上发条的纽。 Been identified that this "Ring" is the bronze, the same as the size of ordinary rings, "rings" watches surface shape, the clock and the minute hand points to 10:06, the edge is also wind-up watches as New Zealand. 用手将“戒指”的内部擦拭几下,发现刻梅花状凹陷的花纹,里面清晰地刻有“瑞士”2个字,这显然是一个袖珍的“瑞士手表”。 Hands will be "ring" a few internal wipe found plum-shaped depression carved patterns, which clearly engraved with "Swiss" two words, this is obviously a pocket of the "Swiss watch." “手表”的表带很长,与普通的戒指环不一样。 "Watch" the strap is very long, with the ordinary ring ring different.

专家们认为,如是用来陪葬的“手表”,但当地人也没有把实物塑成“袖珍”金属制品的习俗。 Experts believe that, in the case of objects used to the "watch", but the locals did not consider the physical autopoietic "pocket" metal manufactures custom. 而且世界上第一块能戴在手腕上的手表是诞生于1904年(另一说法是1918年),刚刚有100的历史,瑞士手表传入中国也仅仅是几十年的事情,与石棺的年代相距甚远。 But also the world's first to wear a wrist watch was born in 1904 (the other is in 1918), just 100 of the history, the Swiss watches were introduced to China is only a matter for decades, with the age of the sarcophagus far apart. 如果不是陪葬品,能离奇地埋在石棺出土墓坑边的土中,并被后人发现,几率也是非常之小。 Items buried with the dead, if not to a strange land buried in the sarcophagus grave excavated soil side, and was later found that the probability is very small. 总之,这“手表”究竟是什么年代的物件,用来作什么,又怎么出现在墓坑边的泥土里,这仍然是一个难以解开的迷团。 In short, this "watch" what is the age of objects, used for what, how grave side in the soil, which is still a difficult to solve the mysteries.

当日,上思县文物保护人员决定,待不久后国内专家前来上思打开巨棺时,也一起对“手表”进行鉴定,再来解开这个迷团。 On that day, Shangsi County conservation officer, to be shortly after the national experts to come to open a giant coffin Shangsi also join the "watch" to identify, then untie the mysteries.

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December 11, Guangxi Cultural Relics and Archeology experts in the stadium's giant on the coffin to carry out research, China Central Television reporter filming next.

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PostSun Jan 11, 2009 1:48 pm » by Johnsmith


The Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region
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The exterior of the main exhibition bulding of the Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region Museum
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PostSun Jan 11, 2009 3:25 pm » by Johnsmith


http://74.125.93.104/translate_c?hl=en& ... us7Lx8ZLvw
Note: This is a different tomb from the same area.
Giant coffin unearthed in Guangxi dialysis unknown liquid, or a total of 2 for the tomb of the couple (map)
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The photo shows on November 29, a large number of unidentified liquid from the “concrete” Guan Zhong Kui effusion. Xinhua News Agency issued

http://esotericvoyage.com/blog/archeolo ... a-baffled/
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PostSun Jan 11, 2009 3:54 pm » by Drjones


Yeah well thanks for the recent info John.
I have to say though i would be more astonished if the watch recovered looked like those pictures just posted...At the moment the "watch" just looks like a little intricate carving...it does not work at all does it?......But that in itsel is intriguing,if this is not a hoax :bang;
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PostSun Jan 11, 2009 4:29 pm » by Johnsmith


The item looks quite small and could hardly fit the finger of an adult person.
The sharp edge of one of the open ends indicates that the bronze item could be used as an earring or for body piercing.
The other open end provides a clue that the said item could possibly be used as a pendant as well.

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PostSun Jan 11, 2009 5:49 pm » by Santaclaus


http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4444515.html
Title: Earring watch
Document Type and Number: United States Patent 4444515
Abstract: An earring watch comprises an enclosure 4 with a friction clip or pierced-earlobe hook for attachment to the ear. The enclosure contains an energy cell 18, a timekeeping circuit 42-46-48 and an audio transducer 40 for announcing the time in a series of groups of tones, the number of tones in each group equal to a respective digit of the time. The time is announced when the wearer touches one part of the surface of the enclosure twice, another part 6 of the enclosure is electrically connected to the body via the ear, so that the touch completes a circuit between the two parts of the enclosure. Preferably, and to avoid false readouts due to an inadvertent touch, the watch contains circuitry for providing a time readout only if it is touched twice within a predetermined interval.
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PostSun Jan 11, 2009 7:06 pm » by Johnsmith


Almost all modern watches have winder at 3 o'clock.
If this is the case, according to the photograph
the watch "stopped" at 4:36 am (or 16:36 pm),
but not at 10:06 am as reported in the news.

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PostSun Jan 11, 2009 9:43 pm » by Johnsmith


A link to the PDF file (in Chinese) provided by Guangxi News Network:
http://epaper.gxnews.com.cn/ddshb/page/ ... 285734.pdf

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PostMon Jan 12, 2009 4:39 pm » by Drjones


johnsmith wrote:A link to the PDF file (in Chinese) provided by Guangxi News Network:
http://epaper.gxnews.com.cn/ddshb/page/ ... 285734.pdf


Cheers m8,i still don't FEEL all this is quite right,i mean,god help me i do watch from time to time but this has'nt been on the "news" here of late..i dunno...i think this is nothing spectacular..HOAX for me at the moment,even if not,then it is a carving at best :?: :bang;
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