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PostFri Aug 13, 2010 5:49 pm » by Tzimtzum

Excerpts From The Electric Universe
Part 8

The following is one of a series of excerpts from The Electric Universe, copyright © 2002, 2007 Wallace Thornhill and David Talbott and published by Mikamar Publishing. Reproduced with the kind permission of the authors and publisher.

Presented by Dave Smith

May 29, 2010

In this series we have contrasted the dirty snowball model of comets to the plasma discharge model, questioned how gravity alone could retain huge comas, explored surface features not expected of a slushball, discovered that electrical stresses are the most likely cause of cometary fragmentation, and observed the impacts of comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 with Jupiter and the Deep Impact probe into comet Tempel 1. Together this outstanding body of observations must bring into question the orthodox model of comets as it serves to demonstrate the predictive power of Electric Universe theory.

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Image of the asteroid Itokawa (25143), taken by Japan’s probe Hayabusa. Asteroid Itokawa demonstrates the difference between the surface of a rocky body that has not suffered electric arc machining or 'electrostatic cleaning' like comet Tempel1.
Credit: JAXA
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Comet Origins

Plasma discharge phenomena are scalable over more than 14 orders of magnitude.135 This means that phenomena seen in the laboratory and recorded in billionths of a second may span light-years in deep space and could last for centuries or more. This scalability of plasma phenomena enables us to compare the detailed structures of high-energy laboratory discharges with galaxy-sized events in space.

In the Electric Universe model, the solar system has a dynamic history, unimagined in any prior cosmogony. In our first volume, Thunderbolts of the Gods, we provide abundant forensic evidence that the present order in the solar system was established shortly before the rise of civilization. We observed that archaic references to comets describe them as being born in the close approach of planets when “the space between the two planets lights up and is set aflame by both planets and produces a train of fire.”136 The description makes clear that this was no modern 'conjunction' of remote planets where their bright points of light merely appear close together in the sky.

Instead of conjecture, we have compelling forensic evidence of the origin of the comets, asteroids and meteoric rocks. They were all
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born in the violence of planetary electrical encounters. From this conclusion, we begin to understand why Mars, the god of war, is the source of meteorites that still arrive on Earth. Astronomer Tom Van Flandern has advanced cogent arguments “that comets originated in the energetic breakup of a body orbiting the Sun in or near the present location of the asteroid belt in the relatively recent past.”137 However his view that a 'nova' type explosion of a former planet was responsible begs the question of what would cause such an outburst. In the Electric Universe, a nova is a stellar manifestation of electric discharge. Consequently, the orbits of comets favor an origin in an electrical 'planetary nova' event.
A New Perspective

“There is no such thing as consensus science. If it's consensus, it isn't science. If it's science, it isn't consensus. Period.”138

From the evidence briefly noted here, we conclude that the consensus about comets can no longer be maintained. Though the story has been presented as fact for several decades, a new perspective is emerging. A comet is an electrical phenomenon, as intuited by 19th century scientists. The immense envelope of the coma, perhaps several million kilometers across and bigger than the Sun, is a plasma sheath enclosing an electrified body. The filamentary comet ion tails, stretching across the sky, are part of the circuit carrying current from the comet. Given the fundamental electrical nature of the Sun and interplanetary space, a comet is subject to electrical transactions far more energetic and complex than expected.

To state the point bluntly, the underpinnings of modern comet theory have collapsed, though no official announcement of this fact has been forthcoming. Nor has official science yet faced the implications for planetary history. If cometary displays are electrical discharges, then a planet on an elliptical orbit will suffer proportionate electrical stress. It will become a comet and suffer surface etching. Certain objects seen in deep space take on new interest as well, because it is possible to see them as scaled up analogues of a comet.

The image shows the Orion "bullets" as blue features and represents the light emitted by hot iron gas. The light from the wakes, shown in orange, is from excited hydrogen gas. The typical size of one of the bullet tips is about 10 times the size of Pluto's orbit around the sun. The wakes shown in the image are about a fifth of a light-year long.
Credit: Gemini Observatory
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Indeed, it appears that the Gemini Observatory using adaptive optics has seen stellar scale 'comets' far from our solar system in the Orion nebula [above]. And the comet-like formations seen
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in the famous Cartwheel galaxy [below], which may be cometary electrical activity on a galactic scale.

Illustration of comet-like objects racing at more than 1 million km/hr through the Cartwheel Galaxy's center. The 'heads' are a few hundred light-years across; the tails are several thousand light-years long. The string of bright lights in the background is the galaxy's outer ring of young stars. The galaxy is in the constellation Sculptor.
Credit: J. Gitlin (Space Telescope Science Institute),
and NASA
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Looking Past the Familiar Boundaries

If there is a single message in the evidence we have summarized here, it is that specialists must pause to hear witnesses from outside their own disciplines. It is not customary for the experts on comets to consider the physics of the Sun. Nor do planetary geologists normally show interest in the study of lightning. Cosmologists give little attention to the behavior of auroras.

As theoretical challenges arise, the tendency is to look for solutions within one's accustomed frame of reference. But will this habit really serve our interests when the problem lies with our fundamental assumptions? In the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, certain notions came to be codified within the theoretical sciences, as if the principles were self-evident and could not be questioned—the rule of gravity, the stable and predictable solar system, and the electrically neutral cosmos. Yet many of the challenges to these suppositions come from outside any particular specialty. If a foundational assumption is challenged by unexpected patterns of discovery, a predicament will arise. Within the different fields, the specialists will not realize that the most important clues could lie outside their familiar subject.

If lightning and auroras involve electric interactions of the Earth and the Sun, then space plasma is not electrically inert and cosmologists' faith in gravitational models is misplaced. If the Io plumes are electrical discharges, then planetary geology must be rewritten. If a comet is discharging electrically as it approaches the Sun, then the Sun is the center of a radial electric field, though solar physicists have never entertained the possibility.

Similarly, if distinctive surface features of solid planets, moons, and lesser rocks in the solar system were created electrically, then long-standing assumptions about planetary stability are mistaken, and the implications will reach far beyond planetary geology. All inquiry into the Earth's history will be affected. ... e_teu8.htm

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