For argument sake lets say that Aliens and Angels have been the same thing throughout time and just labeled differently. This gives us a new perspective on the Bible and the end time predictions. Good aliens and bad aliens... God and Satan, Angels and Demons..
The times of Noah and the ancient Sumerians also had what we in ufology point to as genetic interference in Human development by these beings. This is some heavy concepts and theories to think about..




And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs



For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
Alien races that are helping governments and manipulating them for their own means leading the world leaders into WWIII???

And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
The place of the battle of Armageddon the place called Megiddo

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And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great. 19 And the great city was divided into three parts,
Huge storms and massive earthquake that will shake the world.. The ring of fire is now very active and increasing in magnitude....

And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent:
Possibly a rain of small meteor coming from space to earth?







Conspicuous Ufo sightings occurred at the advent of our atomic age. Further sightings occurred at air force bases with nuclear capabilities in the 1970's in which all control of the weapons was lost, and trajectories were reprogrammed. These encounters were staged to show that non humans were in control of such weapons of destruction.Conceivably, having such capabilities, if they were going to destroy humans or take over the earth, they would have done so already. By feigning a disinclination towards domination, the non humans are promoting a seemingly peaceful agenda,fitting in to the New Age Globalist "Star Trek" paradigm.

In their dealings with humans,the beings disguised as aliens have offered several convincing rationalizations as to why the upper echelons of government should befriend the extraterrestrials. They claim to be a physically weakened race who merely need to join their DNA with more integral human DNA to survive, that they are refugees from a dying planet who need the help of sympathetic earthlings.


Currently, the group of beings referred to as "aliens" are portraying themselves as disparate elements of the paranormal. Aliens, walk-ins, ascended masters, the hidden hierarchy, spirit guides, channelled beings and natural forces like Gaia, are all imparting a similar message of impending disaster and a need for all of humanity to unite. The "aliens" claim to be preparing the earth for a massive evolutionary shift of consciousness, a paradigm shift, while also continuing the education that they maintain is crucial if the human race is to be spared destruction. The nonhuman intelligences are feigning good intentions by warning humans of their potential fate,and the offer to assist humans is all but altruistic in that it is designed to unite mankind under a global authority, with their candidate on the Throne of the World.


The beings "aliens" have a plausible explanation as to why, against the odds, they evolved to look humanoid, why they would take such an interest in helping humankind, and why the government should support their plan to live in underground military bases for now, conducting secret experiments and gradually getting the public used to the idea of aliens, so as not to cause mass panic and hysterical backlash.

Non-human intelligences claim to be the ancient progenitors of the human race. This is the Deception, which would deceive even the elect, and will lead to them setting up of antichrist on the world throne and trying to take over our world..


2 Thes 2:9
Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie ...

Matthew 24:24
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.


The beings have had thousands, even millions of years to implement their deception. Ingeniously, these non humans have used that time to insinuate,into every culture, references to an elder race who have long been guiding humans (Nephilim Genesis 6, Annunaki, White Brotherhood etc). The aliens have explained that the experimental humans they engineered into existence so long ago had never before emotionally matured,nor had they spiritually evolved to a sufficient level for contact with the "creators". It was necessary, the extraterrestrials maintain, to educate humans through various techniques that have been given to the spiritual leaders of human history [shamans, prophets & the mystery school]. Humans needed to develop a greater capacity for spiritual understanding before they could receive total enlightenment, and even now few are worthy.

The spiritual development of mankind has been guided by non human intelligences whose agenda has been to infiltrate, and even instigate, religious traditions in all cultures-- and these non human intelligences are now pretending to be enlightening aliens. Legends of cultures ranging from Babylonian to Hindu to Native American are laden with beings who possess superior technology, spiritual beings enjoying worship and reverence in exchange for distributing wisdom.

When these aliens manifest within our own culture, they will claim that the Bible is merely a primitive attempt to document their own interactions with humans. While these beings do appear in the Bible, scripture makes a clear distinction between the one God -- Creator and Redeemer, namely Jesus Christ -- and those deceptive beings who would CLAIM to be creative gods. Are these Aliens the fallen angels and their leader, the rebel cherub referred to as Baal, Satan, the serpent and the devil?????

Rebel angels/Aliens, have always been in contact with humans, shaping the cultures of mankind throughout history. Ceremonies and festivals honoring the "fallen angels pretending to be gods" have been preserved by being absorbed by institutionalized paganism, Catholicism, as well as simply being the trendy thing to do, as in our own self-deifying New Age and Neopagan culture. But the Bible clearly warns against these other gods, who are not really gods.


Galatians 4:8 (NIV)
Formerly, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those who by nature are not gods . But now that you know God --or rather are known by God--how is it that you are turning back to those weak and miserable principles? Do you wish to be enslaved by them [ rebel angels pretending to be gods] all over again? You are observing special days and months and seasons and years! I fear for you, that somehow I have wasted my efforts on you.

Jeremiah 10:11
Thus shall ye say unto them, The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth, even they shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens.

Jeremiah 10:15
They are vanity, and the work of errors: in the time of their visitation they shall perish.


Scripture talks of this"time of visitation". Sometime in the future God will judge these gods who are not gods, these beings/aliens who have not made the heavens and earth yet seek to be compared to God the Creator.


Isaiah 26:21
behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity

Isaiah 24:21
And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high [ the rebel angelic hosts] , and the kings of the earth upon the earth. And they shall be gathered together,as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison, and after many days SHALL THEY BE VISITED.


There will be a time in the future when the angelic hierarchy, the high ones, the "gods who are not gods", who are also the same beings/aliens, will be stranded on the earth.


Revelation 12:7
And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was castout, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.


Until the time when satan and his angels are imprisoned on the earth, as prisoners in a dungeon, they maintain access to "their place" in heaven. We are told that satan is not stuck in hell, nor imprisoned yet on earth, for he constantly accuses man before the throne of God:


Rev.12:10
...for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.


Satan is currently allowed audience before God where he makes his accusations -- the battle in heaven which results in satan and his angels being imprisoned on earth has not yet occurred. The Book of Job makes it clear that satan and his angels still have "their place" in heaven, they are still allowed audience before God. Satan still travels freely through the earth, he is not yet imprisoned,and he presents himself before God.


Job1:6
Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.


The Bible gives a specific time frame as to when the rebel beings/aliens will be stranded on Earth. Daniel's 70th Week, the seven year countdown to Christ's return which has commonly been called the "Tribulation", is divided into two haves of 1260 days each.The casting down of satan, the dragon, occurs at a time in which 1260 days REMAIN. This would put the War in Heaven and satan's defeat at the mid-point of Daniel's 70th Week, at the midpoint of the seven year countdown to Christ's return.


Rev.12:13
And when the dragon saw that he was cast out onto the earth, he pursued the woman (Israel) who bore the male child (Jesus Christ) and those redeemed by him... and the woman was given two wings like a great eagle that she might fly to a place prepared for her where she is nourished for 1,260days (3 and 1/2 years).


Satan knows that at the midpoint of the tribulation he and his "armies of the high place" will be cast down to earth, with no longer a "place still found for them in heaven." Satan and the rebel angels/aliens will be gathered, "a gathering of prisoners in a dungeon", and the earth will be their prison. God's judgment, His wrath, will then be poured out on the earth. Judgment is God's reason for visiting the inhabitants of the earth [the rebel angels cast out of heaven and of course the minions of antichrist]. The point where the "dwellers on high" or "the high places" are thrown to earth does not take place at the beginning of the seven years of the last week of history, but in the midst of that seven years. This middle point of the tribulation is when the battle in heaven between Michael and his angels, and Satan and his angels is decided. Satan is thrown to the earth and held there to be judged in Rev. 12:7. At this point John hears a loud voice of a multitude in heaven:


Rev.12:10
NOW has come the salvation, and the power and the kingdom of our God... for the accuser of our brethren has been cast down, he who accused them before our God day and night.... Because of this be glad, the heavens, and you tabernacling [temporarily dwelling in them, as those raptured at the midpoint of the tribulation will come back to earth with Christ at Armageddon] in them. Woe to the earth and to the sea because the devil has gone down to you in great wrath, knowing that he has but a short time.


This passage describes the devil as enraged, having lost his battle with Michael and the good angels and permanently been thrown out of heaven to the earth. Why would there be a battle in the heavens at this point, 1260 days into the seemingly successful reign of antichrist? The battle is the last ditch effort of satan to prevent mortals, men made of dirt, from being resurrected to take the place vacated by the glorious rebel angels themselves.

Notice that both Isaiah 26and Revelation 12 link the resurrection and the casting down of Satan simultaneously,just after 1260 days into antichrist's rule. This fact disallows the inaccurate belief that Satan and his angels have already been cast down to earth (a Mormon contention), and theories that the rapture takes place at the beginning of the seven years or some point significantly later than the midpoint of seven years.

Isaiah 26:19-21 explains that the tribulation judgment of the earth commences at the point immediately after the resurrection of the saints.


Your dead ones shall live, my dead body; they shall rise up. Awake and sing, dust dwellers; for the dew of light is your dew; and the earth shall cast out the rapha (to be judged). Come My people, go in your rooms and shut your doors behind you. Hide for a little moment, until the fury passes. For, behold Jehovah comes out of His place to visit iniquity on the dweller of the earth.


God will be visiting the dwellers of the earth at a time JUST AFTER the resurrection of the faithful.

This description of the resurrection is detailed with an interesting point. The word rapha is a title given to the demonic spirits that were chained during the flood of Noah. This word has been misleadingly translated "departed spirits" in most Bibles. Rapha occurs nowhere in scripture except in reference to the descendants of the nephilim from Genesis 6, those rebel angels who bred with the daughters of Adam. These rapha will be loosed from their bonds and judged. After the midpoint of the tribulation the "inhabitants of the earth" will be not only humans who followed the Antichrist, but also the rebel angelic/alien host who have been cast to earth at the midpoint of the tribulation, and other rebel angels/aliens like the Rapha who were not destroyed during the flood of Noah, but were bound within the earth and sea awaiting the day of judgment.

The extra biblical book of Enoch refers to the chaining of the rebel alien "Sons of God" until the day of judgment:


Enoch, thou scribe of justice, go, announce to the watchers of heaven, who have left the high heaven and the holy , eternal place, and have contaminated themselves with women the rebel angels/aliens degraded themselves when they left their own God-given bodies to dwell in the offspring they created through genetic tampering] from now on ye will not ascend into heaven to all eternity, and upon earth, it has been decreed, they shall bind you for all the days of the world. ...bind them under the hills of the earth...till the day of their judgment and of their end, till the last judgment has been passed for all eternity.


Interestingly, the Koran echoes this theme as well, that Satan has not yet been judged, but will be judged at a time corresponding to the resurrection.


"Adam& Eve" vii, L
...We said unto the angels, Prostrate yourselves unto Adam, by way of salutation; whereupon they prostrated themselves, except Iblees, the father of the jinn, who was amid the angels... I am better than he: Thou hast created me of fire, and Thou hast created him of earth. God said, Then descend thou from Paradise; or as some say, from the heavens; for it is not fit for thee that thou behave thyself proudly therein: so go thou forth verily thou shalt be of the contemptible. He replied, Grant me respite until the day when mankind shall be raised from the dead. He said, Thou shalt be of those who are respited...


Satan and his "armies of the high place" will be cast down to earth at the midpoint of the tribulation,and those evil spirits who were held for the day of judgment on and in the earth will be cast out, to receive their judgment.


Isaiah 27: 1
In that day YHWH will visit the sea-monster, the fleeing serpent, with His fierce and great and strong sword, even on ... the twisting serpent ....And He will slay the monster which is in the sea


"Come My people, go in your rooms and shut your doors behind you" (Isaiah 26)

alludes to Noah's escape from the flood. Jesus himself used the same analogy when he described the days before he would come again in

Luke 21. It would be just as it was in the times of Noah, that is, Noah went into the ark, the door was shut up after, and then the rains came.

Jesus Christ described the End Times: "The days before the coming of the son of man shall be exactly as in the days before Noah entered the ark".

Taken literally, this would seem to point to certain circumstances that will exist beforehand. In the days of Noah, there was a very small group of people saying "prepare for the coming disaster". The main characteristic of the days before Noah entered the ark is the interaction between rebel angels and humans, Genesis 6. If these are the End Times as Jesus described, then we should look for the rebel angels to once again publicly manifest upon the earth, in the form of superior beings giving technology. In the End Times, as in the "days of Noah", the rebel angels will oversee a "breeding" campaign involving humans, resulting in supernatural offspring. Indeed, this is exactly what we are seeing in the "alien abduction scenario". The contact with the rebel angels/aliens, in the days of Noah, also contributed to rampant paganism, rebellion, violence and occultism. It is not hard to find the parallels in today's culture -- it would seem our times are just as the days of Noah.

Pillar of Cloud

21And the LORD went before them by day in a pillar of cloud to lead them along the way, and by night in a pillar of fire to give them light, that they might travel by day and by night;
22the pillar of cloud by day and the pillar of fire by night did not depart from before the people. (Ex. 13:21-22)

This is one of those cases where words cannot substitute for a picture. Below (Figure 1) is that pillar. It is a picture of the Milky Way taken from Micarta Encyclopedia. There is your pillar of fire by night. In the pristine sky, 2,000 years ago, it could be seen as a pillar of cloud by day.



Son of Man End Times

24"But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light,
25and the stars will be falling from heaven, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken.
26And then they will see the Son of man coming in clouds with great power and glory.
27And then he will send out the angels, and gather his elect from the four winds, from the ends of the earth to the ends of heaven. (Mark 13:24-27)

Throne in Heaven

The book of Revelation is full of astronomical allegory. The sun is on its throne in heaven when it is at its zenith. At the same time Orion, the Son of Man, is in the background. The precious gems depict the color of the stars. There are twenty four thrones because there are twenty four hours in a day. The seven torches describe the planets, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Uranus, and the sun and the moon.

2At once I was in the Spirit, and lo, a throne stood in heaven, with one seated on the throne!
3And he who sat there appeared like jasper and carnelian, and round the throne was a rainbow that looked like an emerald.
4Round the throne were twenty-four thrones, and seated on the thrones were twenty-four elders, clad in white garments, with golden crowns upon their heads.
5From the throne issue flashes of lightning, and voices and peals of thunder, and before the throne burn seven torches of fire, which are the seven spirits of God;
6and before the throne there is as it were a sea of glass, like crystal. (Rev. 4:2-6)




Source: http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/33386/



Source: http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/33372/

We're def on the same page, at the same time. Been noticing that more.

the thing that's wrong about this, is that the battle at megiddo has already happened,this is not something that is going to happen in the future,unless,parties use this story and have another war in our time, for their own agenda.

Lately for myself it just seems so much is taking place at such a fast pace in the world. As it is occurring the pieces of it all are just falling into certain places. The bigger picture is not so hard to read it seems.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/opinions ... s-Too-1566

Does Jesus Love Aliens, Too?



By Heather Horn on November 11, 2009 1:07pm

The Vatican is holding a conference on extraterrestrial life: if there's a more irresistible bit of news for bloggers to riff on, let's hear it. But aliens, it turns out, test theologians' reasoning abilities almost as much as journalists' poker faces. If extraterrestrials exist, it could throw a significant wrench in the ecumenical works. For example: are aliens saved? Here are some of the problems:

* Do Aliens Get Saved? This question "goes right to the heart of Christian beliefs," explains the London Times' Hannah Devlin, who strikes a half-serious tone. "[T]his isn't a trivial issue for theologists," she argues. One would have to consider whether "intelligent life" implied the existence of a soul. Then there is the matter of whether Jesus saved every intelligent life form at one time, or whether there are, to quote one astrophysicist, "other equivalent salvation events that take place elsewhere in the Universe."
http://timesonline.typepad.com/science/ ... liens.html

* Stop Laughing: This is About Earth-Centrism The Washington Post's Marc Kaufman manages a more sober tone (save for the headline--"When E.T. Phones the Pope"). "[T]he logic of astrobiologists," he writes, "points ... to the likelihood that we are not alone, and perhaps that we are not even the most advanced creatures in the universe. This may not 'conflict with our faith,' but it may conflict with the stories we tell about who and what we are." Catholicism has a particularly tricky relationship with these scientific disruptions to earth-centrism; the Vatican, as Kaufman notes, "got Copernicus, Galileo and other men of science wrong and doesn't want to do that again." There's a divide on this issue:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01899.html





Many Protestant scholars agree ... that the discovery of extraterrestrial life would not pose a major challenge to their faith or theology, especially if it was not intelligent or morally aware. But on the evangelical side, there is a deep concern, one reminiscent of the battles over evolution. "My theological perspective is that E.T. life would actually make a mockery of the very reason Christ came to die for our sins, for our redemption," Gary Bates, head of Atlanta-based Creation Ministries International, told me recently in a critique of the Vatican conference. Bates believes that "the entire focus of creation is mankind on this Earth" and that intelligent, morally aware extraterrestrial life would undermine that view and belief in the incarnation, resurrection and redemption drama so central to the faith.

* No Kidding--Aliens Would Change Everything Doug Mataconis at Below the Beltway takes the problem at face value. "Are Christianity and, to some extent, other religions only stories about life on Earth?" This is the question as Kaufman phrases it. The answer is easy, thinks Mataconis: "yes."
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/opinions ... istianity/

Even more so that the Copernican Revolution, or Darwinian evolution, the discovery of intelligent life elsewhere--life which may or may not have it's own form of a belief in a god and which may believe that it is the central story of that god's creation--would seem to pretty clear be the end of the universality of any religion that claims Earth as the center of God's universe.






# When E.T. Phones the Pope Marc Kaufman, The Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01899.html
# Did Jesus Save Aliens? Hannah Devlin, The London Times
http://timesonline.typepad.com/science/ ... liens.html
# Destroy Christianity? Doug Mataconis, Below the Beltway
http://belowthebeltway.com/2009/11/08/w ... istianity/
The Vatican wants to believe http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/r ... to-believe
Vatican Holds Conference on Extraterrestrial Life http://www.universetoday.com/2009/11/10 ... rial-life/

Human souls common to extraterrestrials and earthlings, researcher says
http://www.examiner.com/x-2912-Seattle- ... rcher-says

Extraterrestrial life, does it exist?
http://www.merinews.com/article/extrate ... 8222.shtml

Op-ed: Vatican Bans Gays, But E.T. Is OK?
http://sdgln.com/news/2009/11/13/op-ed- ... gays-et-ok

We are not as advanced as we think we are.. Other civilizations may have preferred peoples that understand their surroundings and being in touch with it more, than us today.. (tribal type groups that lived off the land and never took what was not needed.) We all seem to be detached from the world like it is only a product to be used up then discarded. A good example is when Europeans first came to North America the Natives laughed at them when they wanted to trade the land and for items.. They thought we were crazy because their belief was that no one person owned the land.. Now look at what we have done. Our development has been based on greed and monetary gain without trying to balance it with spirituality and more world friendly practices.
I think we are on a speeding train that is racing out of control and the track ends ahead. We have chosen the wrong track to follow and now there may be no turning back or stopping the train in time to correct the problem. The train wreck is inevitable.
From an advanced species point of view, they may see us as the proverbial "Other side of the tracks" or "A statistic in the grander scheme of life and death in the universe." of the known habitable worlds. Maybe we need to have the entire system collapse around us to have the pieces picked up and then we can go down a more balanced path.. But, on the more grim view, maybe we will be the end of our selves.. The creators of our own extinction.. The "statistic " I mentioned.
So maybe all the predictions from the Bible to Nostradamus and every other one in between may have it right. We may be faced with one day an end of either one of two kinds. First being a new dawning of mans direction with a fresh start/beginning or the other, the total end.

So the question now is where do we go from here?

The other point I would like to cover is does the Vatican already know something that we do not? Is there ancient texts in their library that hold answers?
Why the sudden change in direction for the church?

This is an exciting time to live in. So much happening so fast in so many ways.. One never knows what tomorrow will bring literally. Each day we wake up and read the news to find something like Mars Water, Moon Water, Meteors coming close to us that they missed seeing, Vatican considers ET.. What is next on the agenda? Will we survive all this craziness in the world to see a new dawn for mankind?
I can't wait to find out...

Interesting read, ref to ET and Angels/fallen Angels Slush

There have been many battles recorded in the new testament accounts in the middle east namely AD70 Roman campaign on the Jews, which resulted in the scattering of the latter nation.
However the Armagedon (megiddo) of Revellation relates to events before the second coming of Christ so to date has not happened, reference to a 2/3 rds laid to waste, before Christ returns to Mt of Olives..