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vulcanic · **Joined:** Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:04 pm **Posts:** 3035

keep in mind a cross does not kill alone! it takes a man to nail someone to it, so the cross did not kill him but a man did....

thats like saying a gun killed jfk and now all guns are offensive to me!!

never blame the weapon blame the men behind the weapon....

jetxvii · **Posted:** Sun Dec 06, 2009 2:19 am

vulcanic wrote:

keep in mind a cross does not kill alone! it takes a man to nail someone to it, so the cross did not kill him but a man did....

thats like saying a gun killed jfk and now all guns are offensive to me!!

never blame the weapon blame the men behind the weapon....

indeed, that is like saying a pencil mis-spells words..

proto · **Joined:** Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:18 am **Posts:** 2071

slushpup wrote:

I may burn for this one though??? :flop:

oh yeah you going straight to hell ...

Quote:

wood was scarce in lebanon c2000 years ago

if they reused the nails then they probably reused the wood as well .
they definitely didn't buried anyone while still on the cross .
they where removing the nails ,take him of the cross and give the
corpse back to the family for proper burial .

vulcanic · **Joined:** Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:04 pm **Posts:** 3035

jetxvii wrote:

vulcanic wrote:

keep in mind a cross does not kill alone! it takes a man to nail someone to it, so the cross did not kill him but a man did....

thats like saying a gun killed jfk and now all guns are offensive to me!!

never blame the weapon blame the men behind the weapon....

indeed, that is like saying a pencil mis-spells words..

or my grandma (died on a bed) so now all beds are offensive to me lol

jesus (died on a cross) those are key words . jesus would have been fine if not for men putting nails in his body and jabbing him with a spear ect...

lucidlemondrop · **Joined:** Sat May 30, 2009 7:37 am **Posts:** 7415

vulcanic wrote:

jesus (died on a cross) those are key words . jesus would have been fine if not for men putting nails in his body and jabbing him with a spear ect...

Yeah, he would have lived longer for sure!

bri84 · **Joined:** Mon Mar 09, 2009 7:52 am **Posts:** 70

Sure its offensive... If your a anti-Christ vamp. :lol:

stone069 · **Joined:** Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:00 am **Posts:** 550

I started a thread about this subject a while back. I just mention it here because of the similar tone. How is it the cross is revered, yet, the Swastika is demonized? Now I am not condoning the Nazis, or their beliefs and deeds, but many more people have died by the hands of people holding the cross then had been killed by the nazis. The crusades and spanish inquisition, come to mind. So how is it that it is still a symbol of the church? And loved and worshipped by billions of people today. Yet, if someone sees anything even resembling a swastika, they freak out and start calling for someones head on a platter. Quite Ironic in my opinion, that no-one feels the cross is offensive.

bri84 · **Joined:** Mon Mar 09, 2009 7:52 am **Posts:** 70

badger wrote:

Bill hicks says it all!!

One less gas attendant in the world.. or.. comedian.

:badair:

Sorry, just had to say it.

forestgrove111 · **Joined:** Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:27 pm **Posts:** 736

it's about Astrotheology, wake up!

badrobot · **Joined:** Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:04 pm **Posts:** 102

stone069 wrote:

I started a thread about this subject a while back. I just mention it here because of the similar tone. How is it the cross is revered, yet, the Swastika is demonized? Now I am not condoning the Nazis, or their beliefs and deeds, but many more people have died by the hands of people holding the cross then had been killed by the nazis. The crusades and spanish inquisition, come to mind. So how is it that it is still a symbol of the church? And loved and worshipped by billions of people today. Yet, if someone sees anything even resembling a swastika, they freak out and start calling for someones head on a platter. Quite Ironic in my opinion, that no-one feels the cross is offensive.

yeah you got a good point there. The swastika was a symbol well before it was recognised as Germanys emblem. Hmmm Ill have to look this up before I comment further.

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