The death of DTV.

Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:34 pm » by **Allreadydead**

O, that this too too solid flesh would melt,
Thaw, and resolve itself into a dew!
Or that the Everlasting had not fix'd
His canon 'gainst self-slaughter! O God! God!
How weary, stale, flat and unprofitable,
Seem to me all the uses of this world!
Fie on't! ah fie! 'tis an unweeded garden,
That grows to seed; things rank and gross in nature
Possess it merely.
Hamlet (1.2), Hamlet

Are we but witness to the death throws of a mighty dream?
Do not we speak and write against the certain?
Have we not lost that is precious?
Have we become machines not men?

Is our voice silent and muted?
Do we say, with a whisper, I submit.
Or take up the sword and say 'I am a free man!'
and die with that happiness upon our lips?

DTV should and must display what is right - had Shakespeare been around now, his words would echo around this place.

I can see an actor upon the stage of a Shakespeare theatre, lifting his sword (to the delight of the the crowd) and saying simply:

"I am free and would fight until the death to remain so!"

DTV must remain such - We all know this.

Eve.

Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:49 pm » by **Allreadydead**

I suppose many of the DTV'ers didn't quite understand why I posted this.

Shakespeare, in his day, was bit of a revolutionary - that's why he writings touched so many then, as it does now.

For those that have any interest, humans longed for 'freedom' back then as they do now. William Shakespeare wrote about what they thought and dreamed and hoped. That's why after five hundred years we still debate and listen, and try to understand what he said.

He touched a nerve, how many 'modern' writers could have such an impact?

Is there a new Shakespeare lurking about 'twitter' or 'facebook'?

The 'death' of DTV will occur when people have no interest in the truth, when they accept the lies of the mass-media and accept their 'debt - slavery' without a fight.

For many accept that they can do nothing - but it takes just one step to climb a mountain.

'The Protester' are US, they carry our dreams and ambitions - for whilst 'They' can crush our bodies with their police and military, they can not fight against an 'idea' - just like the Roman empire tried to crush the early Christian's.

Truth has a habit of winning.

Thank God.

Eve.

Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:51 pm » by **E6722maj**

decay is immediate, and ceaseless, the moment after creation. cessation is, thenceforth, only a matter of time

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Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:09 pm » by **Allreadydead**

e6722maj wrote:decay is immediate, and ceaseless, the moment after creation. cessation is, thenceforth, only a matter of time

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Yes, death is like that for human flesh, but what about the soul?

Dark decay and rotting of the body is nomal for all things that have life - except the human soul.

The creature we call a human is made of three things, the flesh, the mind and the spirit.

The 'Trinity' of existance.

The 'flesh' will rot - that's the nature of flesh, the 'mind' will fail and cease to have a personality. But the 'soul' will survive and exist forever - The ancient Egyptians knew of this and when you research their version of 'death' you will understand all they lacked was the understanding of the 'ka' - they preserved the flesh because they thought the body was important, they preserved the 'identity' of the individual because they thought it was important, they 'fed' the ka with gifts of food, wine etc. because they believed that it was a 'spirtiual' version of the flesh and so, important.

What they didn't realise was the 'Ka' was so much more - and it took the 'Christ' for humanity to realise this.

They almost had it right - The writing has been on the tomb walls for some time, but it took the words of Christ to place meaning upon them.

Eve.

Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:53 am » by **Shemagh**

Shakespeare, in his day, was bit of a revolutionary - that's why he writings touched so many then, as it does now.

For those that have any interest, humans longed for 'freedom' back then as they do now. William Shakespeare wrote about what they thought and dreamed and hoped. That's why after five hundred years we still debate and listen, and try to understand what he said.

Oh yes ,in school we had to debate and listen to and understand, and here's our revenge, via Blackadder

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE5jB2tl70M

Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:02 am » by **Shemagh**

He touched a nerve, how many 'modern' writers could have such an impact?

How about Eugene O'Neill, Harold Pinter, Tennessee Williams, Tom Stoppard, to name but a few.

Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:07 am » by **Allreadydead**

shemagh wrote:He touched a nerve, how many 'modern' writers could have such an impact?

How about Eugene O'Neill, Harold Pinter, Tennessee Williams, Tom Stoppard, to name but a few.

Some great names there!

But here's a thing - he was the first - they simply followed in his wake.

Most people do not understand the value of his writings and see only their expolitation - understand shakespeare and you will understand 'modern' man.

Eve.

Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:28 am » by **Shemagh**

allreadydead wrote:
shemagh wrote:He touched a nerve, how many 'modern' writers could have such an impact?

How about Eugene O'Neill, Harold Pinter, Tennessee Williams, Tom Stoppard, to name but a few.

Some great names there!

But here's a thing - he was the first - they simply followed in his wake.

Most people do not understand the value of his writings and see only their expolitation - understand shakespeare and you will understand 'modern' man.

Eve.

No thank you. Believe me, to understand modern man, I do not need Shakespeare.

Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:38 am » by **Fatdogmendoza**

allreadydead wrote:
shemagh wrote:He touched a nerve, how many 'modern' writers could have such an impact?

How about Eugene O'Neill, Harold Pinter, Tennessee Williams, Tom Stoppard, to name but a few.

Some great names there!

But here's a thing - he was the first - they simply followed in his wake.

Most people do not understand the value of his writings and see only their expolitation - understand shakespeare and you will understand 'modern' man.

Eve.

How about Homer and the Illiad and the Odyssey

Geoffrey Chaucer and The Canterbury Tales

How about the early persian poets and writers such as Omar Khayyám

Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:40 am » by **dlslith**

The death of DTV? Hardly