The European Union & Secret Symbolism (Illuminati)
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First of all thanks for the comments guys (including edgar).... 2nd, if you think i;m disinfo agent your not the first one... so go further in this topic about that subject:
z-is-a-agent-t19068.html?hilit=disinfo
third point...... I got nothing from Wiki in this thread, and yes it was pretty shallow... but that was my intention (if people find it interesting in whatever way, I wanted to post more on this)
Fourth and last point, yes edgar i'm probably a nobb regarding symbolism when it comes to your "professional" view of symbols. But instead of virtually bitchslapping me, maybe you could bring in some descent information yourself in this thread.... I'm looking forward to it
Just as a sidenote..... every piece of information can be seen as disinfo or lie's, it is up to everyone themselfs to say what's right and wrong in my opinion!
Now back to topic please
z-is-a-agent-t19068.html?hilit=disinfo
third point...... I got nothing from Wiki in this thread, and yes it was pretty shallow... but that was my intention (if people find it interesting in whatever way, I wanted to post more on this)
Fourth and last point, yes edgar i'm probably a nobb regarding symbolism when it comes to your "professional" view of symbols. But instead of virtually bitchslapping me, maybe you could bring in some descent information yourself in this thread.... I'm looking forward to it
Just as a sidenote..... every piece of information can be seen as disinfo or lie's, it is up to everyone themselfs to say what's right and wrong in my opinion!
Now back to topic please

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kingz wrote:First of all thanks for the comments guys (including edgar).... 2nd, if you think i;m disinfo agent your not the first one... so go further in this topic about that subject:
z-is-a-agent-t19068.html?hilit=disinfo![]()
third point...... I got nothing from Wiki in this thread, and yes it was pretty shallow... but that was my intention (if people find it interesting in whatever way, I wanted to post more on this)
Fourth and last point, yes edgar i'm probably a nobb regarding symbolism when it comes to your "professional" view of symbols. But instead of virtually bitchslapping me, maybe you could bring in some descent information yourself in this thread.... I'm looking forward to it![]()
Just as a sidenote..... every piece of information can be seen as disinfo or lie's, it is up to everyone themselfs to say what's right and wrong in my opinion!
Now back to topic please
I appreciate the tone of your reply.
OK let's go with the first coin. I'll write more about the others later this evening.
You can see the owls on a lot of bills/coins. The Dutch people will know what i'm talking about :
Swiss people as well :

Now, back to the coin.
The owl is on the reverse side of coin. The obverse side of this tetradrachma shows the goddess Athena, a patron of Athens. Although there are some modern representations of Athena appearing with the owl, that is mythologically wrong. The owl is actually Athena, because Athena used to disguise her (shape-shift
If you believe in Moloch as a physical entity , there is no proof whatsoever that The Owl is associated with Moloch, or that The Owl is the female form of Moloch. Period. Moloch is depicted as a bull. And The Owl is a strong feminine symbol, while the bull is extremely masculine symbol. The only reason The Owl is associated with Moloch (a bull) by overzealous amateur symbologists is the fact that The Owl's ears which may resemble bull's horns plus the allaround mysterious looks and behaviour of owls. Additionally, the particular sort of the owl depicted on the ancient tetradrahma looks different than let's say horned owl, i.e. "has no ears"
Athene noctua
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Owl
Ishtar, perhaps, can be associated with The Owl, or the Lilith's Ishtar aspect, but only partially. And that's another story...

But those birds look more like barn owls. No horns, again
I think Alex Jones suffers from some sort of ornithophobia, along with the other stuff he suffers from...
But the coin depicts something of the same, if not the larger importance. The olive branch. A symbol of peace.
This article explains this coin in detail.
http://www.ancientassets.com/athenian-owl.html
So, the basic symbolical meaning of this coin is Wisdom and Peace. Very strong message.
In those times many people were basically illiterate, so it was easiest for politicians to spread the message trough the coins. They were durable, and they were shared among a lot of people. Propaganda at its best. That's all.

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kingz wrote:First of all thanks for the comments guys (including edgar).... 2nd, if you think i;m disinfo agent your not the first one... so go further in this topic about that subject:
z-is-a-agent-t19068.html?hilit=disinfo![]()
third point...... I got nothing from Wiki in this thread, and yes it was pretty shallow... but that was my intention (if people find it interesting in whatever way, I wanted to post more on this)
Fourth and last point, yes edgar i'm probably a nobb regarding symbolism when it comes to your "professional" view of symbols. But instead of virtually bitchslapping me, maybe you could bring in some descent information yourself in this thread.... I'm looking forward to it![]()
Just as a sidenote..... every piece of information can be seen as disinfo or lie's, it is up to everyone themselfs to say what's right and wrong in my opinion!
Now back to topic please

edgarrothstein wrote:kingz wrote:First of all thanks for the comments guys (including edgar).... 2nd, if you think i;m disinfo agent your not the first one... so go further in this topic about that subject:
z-is-a-agent-t19068.html?hilit=disinfo![]()
third point...... I got nothing from Wiki in this thread, and yes it was pretty shallow... but that was my intention (if people find it interesting in whatever way, I wanted to post more on this)
Fourth and last point, yes edgar i'm probably a nobb regarding symbolism when it comes to your "professional" view of symbols. But instead of virtually bitchslapping me, maybe you could bring in some descent information yourself in this thread.... I'm looking forward to it![]()
Just as a sidenote..... every piece of information can be seen as disinfo or lie's, it is up to everyone themselfs to say what's right and wrong in my opinion!
Now back to topic please
I appreciate the tone of your reply.
OK let's go with the first coin. I'll write more about the others later this evening.
You can see the owls on a lot of bills/coins. The Dutch people will know what i'm talking about :
Swiss people as well :
Now, back to the coin.
The owl is on the reverse side of coin. The obverse side of this tetradrachma shows the goddess Athena, a patron of Athens. Although there are some modern representations of Athena appearing with the owl, that is mythologically wrong. The owl is actually Athena, because Athena used to disguise her (shape-shift) as an owl, among the other animals. The owl is a symbol of wisdom and intelligence.
If you believe in Moloch as a physical entity , there is no proof whatsoever that The Owl is associated with Moloch, or that The Owl is the female form of Moloch. Period. Moloch is depicted as a bull. And The Owl is a strong feminine symbol, while the bull is extremely masculine symbol. The only reason The Owl is associated with Moloch (a bull) by overzealous amateur symbologists is the fact that The Owl's ears which may resemble bull's horns plus the allaround mysterious looks and behaviour of owls. Additionally, the particular sort of the owl depicted on the ancient tetradrahma looks different than let's say horned owl, i.e. "has no ears"
Athene noctua
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Owl
Ishtar, perhaps, can be associated with The Owl, or the Lilith's Ishtar aspect, but only partially. And that's another story...
But those birds look more like barn owls. No horns, again
I think Alex Jones suffers from some sort of ornithophobia, along with the other stuff he suffers from...
But the coin depicts something of the same, if not the larger importance. The olive branch. A symbol of peace.
This article explains this coin in detail.
http://www.ancientassets.com/athenian-owl.html
So, the basic symbolical meaning of this coin is Wisdom and Peace. Very strong message.
In those times many people were basically illiterate, so it was easiest for politicians to spread the message trough the coins. They were durable, and they were shared among a lot of people. Propaganda at its best. That's all.
Cool Dude.. I really appreciate your reply
And I understand also that Believing everything Alex Jones or anyone else for that matter is not very smart... That is why I believe many things at the same time... the more the merrier, in the sence that I'm well capable enough too make my own "representation" of "the truth"....
Nothing against anyone personally who believes deeply something to be true....... for them that is.
In my opinion it is the more information is added to your "worldview", you understand that anything is possible in the sort of quantum entanglement sense..... 2 of the same things can be at different places ar the same time (schroedingers cat theory)
Anyway I can't really explain in English proper, so I will leave it at that heheh
For the Symbolism part, yes some of the things you say are true, but then again it could be interpretate... and used in many ways by different groups and people!
So who knows.... looking forwards in more of your point of view though
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About the Europa/Zeus coin.
Well, i really fail to see the secret symbolism in this coin. I mean, if a continent is named after mythological woman which was allegedly abducted by shape-shifting Zeus, i can't see why her artistic rendition can't be used on an European coin. Don't you agree? And Zeus as an reptilian like Davey Icke claims, then...well, i'm not really going into this stuff...
Then the Brandenburg Gate coin.
I'm aware of the Brandenburg Gate as a symbol of the NWO, or better, the new world order without the capital letters. Kennedy, Gorbachev, Reagan and others gave the historical addressings there, as well as the Gate was a favorite rally place for Nazis. It is really the place of changes, and a symbol of cold war and the separation in general. It's really a weird place. And if i'd believe in Stargates i'd say that the Brandenburg Gate is one of those. But, if you visit Berlin, you really can't forget the Gate. It is monumental, and one of the landmarks of Berlin. I believe that's why the Brandenburg Gate is depicted on this coin.
While we're talking about the Brandenburg Gate, i'm more interested in the meaning of its quadriga at the top.
The Braille coin.
Aside that there's a conspiracy about the Braille alphabet as a devil's language ( this is my favourite : http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=14830 ), i see nothing
wrong about this coin. The book is symbol of knowledge, and the birds represent freedom. So the message of this coin would basically be - the freedom of knowledge. Unfortunately
for me, i can't read Braille, but i'm sure that Braille insrciptions doesn't read anything sinister. The hand is probably a derivation of Michelangelo's Creation Of Adam .

For the other inscriptions on the coin see : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identifying_marks_on_euro_coins
The Comet coin.
Well, this is a special case coin, but not from the symbology perspective. Citta Del Vaticano and the Holy See are not the same. It's rather complicated stuff, in a sense that basically you never know which one to blame when shit hits the fan. Anyways, Citta Del Vaticano, Vatican City, has the Euro as a currency. If they were asking me, i wouldn't let them to make a monetary agreement with the EU in the first place. I see this as a big discrepancy, but then again, considering the importance of Catholic church...
Basically, what i wanted to say, look at this coin as if it's a normal EU coin, representing some other state. That's (along with the fact that "XX Giornata Mondiale della Gioventù" - the World Youth Day 2005 festival was held in Cologne) why they put the Cologne Cathedral instead of, let's say, St. Peter Cathedral. One more discrepancy is that this Catholic Youth festival is sponsored by Holy See, rather than Vatican City...
In this coin, the comet is a symbol of hope and youth.
About the Nazi Euro collar tab.
I have to admit i didn't know about it, but a quick search result is that this collar tab is very rare, and made for Estonian volunteer soldiers.
http://axis101.bizland.com/CollarTabs02.htm
"E" for Estonia, not for Euro.
Well, i really fail to see the secret symbolism in this coin. I mean, if a continent is named after mythological woman which was allegedly abducted by shape-shifting Zeus, i can't see why her artistic rendition can't be used on an European coin. Don't you agree? And Zeus as an reptilian like Davey Icke claims, then...well, i'm not really going into this stuff...
Then the Brandenburg Gate coin.
I'm aware of the Brandenburg Gate as a symbol of the NWO, or better, the new world order without the capital letters. Kennedy, Gorbachev, Reagan and others gave the historical addressings there, as well as the Gate was a favorite rally place for Nazis. It is really the place of changes, and a symbol of cold war and the separation in general. It's really a weird place. And if i'd believe in Stargates i'd say that the Brandenburg Gate is one of those. But, if you visit Berlin, you really can't forget the Gate. It is monumental, and one of the landmarks of Berlin. I believe that's why the Brandenburg Gate is depicted on this coin.
While we're talking about the Brandenburg Gate, i'm more interested in the meaning of its quadriga at the top.
The Braille coin.
Aside that there's a conspiracy about the Braille alphabet as a devil's language ( this is my favourite : http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=14830 ), i see nothing
wrong about this coin. The book is symbol of knowledge, and the birds represent freedom. So the message of this coin would basically be - the freedom of knowledge. Unfortunately
for me, i can't read Braille, but i'm sure that Braille insrciptions doesn't read anything sinister. The hand is probably a derivation of Michelangelo's Creation Of Adam .

For the other inscriptions on the coin see : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identifying_marks_on_euro_coins
The Comet coin.
Well, this is a special case coin, but not from the symbology perspective. Citta Del Vaticano and the Holy See are not the same. It's rather complicated stuff, in a sense that basically you never know which one to blame when shit hits the fan. Anyways, Citta Del Vaticano, Vatican City, has the Euro as a currency. If they were asking me, i wouldn't let them to make a monetary agreement with the EU in the first place. I see this as a big discrepancy, but then again, considering the importance of Catholic church...
Basically, what i wanted to say, look at this coin as if it's a normal EU coin, representing some other state. That's (along with the fact that "XX Giornata Mondiale della Gioventù" - the World Youth Day 2005 festival was held in Cologne) why they put the Cologne Cathedral instead of, let's say, St. Peter Cathedral. One more discrepancy is that this Catholic Youth festival is sponsored by Holy See, rather than Vatican City...
In this coin, the comet is a symbol of hope and youth.
About the Nazi Euro collar tab.
I have to admit i didn't know about it, but a quick search result is that this collar tab is very rare, and made for Estonian volunteer soldiers.
http://axis101.bizland.com/CollarTabs02.htm
"E" for Estonia, not for Euro.

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A HAARP?
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marduk2012 wrote:
A HAARP?
Nope. Moloch again...


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