The French Crack Down On Muslim Women Begins

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PostTue Sep 14, 2010 8:24 pm » by Savwafair2012


French senate overwhelmingly votes to ban burkas in public

Barring legal challenge, move affects only a tiny minority of the country's Muslim women but has significant symbolic repercussions

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The French Senate has voted overwhelmingly for a bill banning the burka-style Islamic veil everywhere from post offices to streets, in a final step toward a making it law.

The Senate voted 246 to 1 Tuesday in favor of the bill, which has already passed in the lower chamber, the National Assembly.

Any dissenters have 10 days to challenge the measure in the Constitutional Council watchdog, but that is considered unlikely.

The move affects only a tiny minority of the country's Muslim women but has significant symbolic repercussions.

Muslims believe the latest legislation is one more blow to France's second religion, and risks raising the level of Islamophobia in a country where mosques, like synagogues, are sporadic targets of hate. Some women have vowed to wear a full-face veil despite the law.


“ It is a law that is unlawful. It is ... against individual liberty, freedom of religion, liberty of conscience. ”
— Kenza Drider, a mother of four from Avignon


The law was passed overwhelmingly by the lower house of parliament, the National Assembly, on July 13. The green light from the Senate makes it definitive once the president signs off on it — barring amendments and an eventual legal challenge.

The measure would outlaw face-covering veils in streets, including those worn by tourists from the Middle East and elsewhere. It is aimed at ensuring gender equality, women's dignity and security, as well as upholding France's secular values — and its way of life.

Kenza Drider, however, says she'll flirt with arrest to wear her veil as she pleases.

It is a law that is unlawful,” said Ms. Drider, a mother of four from Avignon, in southern France. “It is ... against individual liberty, freedom of religion, liberty of conscience," she said.


“I will continue to live my life as I always have with my full veil,” she told Associated Press Television News.

Ms. Drider was the only woman who wears a full-faced veil to be interviewed by a parliamentary panel that spent six months deciding whether to move ahead with legislation.

Muslim leaders concur that Islam does not require a woman to hide her face. However, they have voiced concerns that a law forbidding them to do so would stigmatize the French Muslim population, which at an estimated 5 million is the largest in western Europe. Numerous Muslim women who wear the face-covering veil have said they are now being harassed in the streets.

Raphael Liogier, a sociology professor who heads the Observatory of the Religious in Aix-en-Provence, says that Muslims in France are already targeted by hate-mongers and the ban on face-covering veils “will officialize Islamophobia.”

“With the identity crisis that France has today, the scapegoat is the Muslim,” he told The Associated Press.

Ironically, instead of helping some women integrate, the measure may keep them cloistered in their homes to avoid exposing their faces in public.

“I won't go out. I'll send people to shop for me. I'll stay home, very simply,” said Oum Al Khyr, who wears a “niqab” that hides all but the eyes.

“I'll spend my time praying,” said the single woman “over 45” who lives in Montreuil on Paris' eastern edge. “I'll exclude myself from society when I wanted to live in it.”

The law banning the veil would take effect only after a six-month period.

The Interior Ministry estimates the number of women who fully cover themselves at some 1,900, with a quarter of them converts to Islam and two-thirds with French nationality.

The French parliament wasted no time in working to get a ban in place, opening an inquiry shortly after Conservative President Nicolas Sarkozy said in June 2009 that full veils that hide the face are “not welcome” in France.

The bill calls for 150 euro fines or citizenship classes for any woman caught covering her face, or both. It also carries stiff penalties for anyone such as husbands or brothers convicted of forcing the veil on a woman. The 30,000 euro fine and year in prison are doubled if the victim is a minor.

It was unclear, however, how authorities planned to enforce such a law.

“I will accept the fine with great pleasure,” said Ms. Drider, vowing to appeal to the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg if she gets caught.
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PostTue Sep 14, 2010 8:56 pm » by Flecktarn


gotta love france ,sitting at a cafe drinking monaco's ,at least there straight with you ,if they dont like something they tell you
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PostTue Sep 14, 2010 9:03 pm » by zinzana


what is there to like about the freaky burka


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PostTue Sep 14, 2010 9:17 pm » by Flecktarn


when i was a kid i went to a inner city multi cultural school ,and the muslim girls didnt wear head scarves and they all wanted to dress western ,jeans t shirts etc and didnt want the religious upbringing ,they grew up into women who work and have the same rights as muslim men of the same age and are not forced to stay at home and be told what to wear they even been to the pub with me ,they dont like how women have been treated and forced to wear the burka and hijab and little muslim girls at school are now wearing headscarves ,this religion is backwards in its thinking and is trying to impose the middle ages again on the western world ,,,,
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PostTue Sep 14, 2010 9:29 pm » by zinzana


now the musslim will see what it feels like to pay the jizia
nice move by france :flop:

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PostTue Sep 14, 2010 10:09 pm » by Taintedsample



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PostTue Sep 14, 2010 10:22 pm » by zinzana



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PostTue Sep 14, 2010 10:38 pm » by Flecktarn


zinzana wrote:

much the same in many uk citys ,,,bad days ahead
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PostTue Sep 14, 2010 10:40 pm » by Chrisfryfyi


if i cant walk around in a balaclarva why shud they lol
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if a dog can piss where he likes outside why cant i?

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PostTue Sep 14, 2010 11:27 pm » by zinzana


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