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PostWed Oct 31, 2012 3:13 pm » by Seriouscitizen


Just stumbled upon this video, anyone seen it?



http://science.discovery.com/tv-shows/through-the-wormhole/videos/through-the-wormhole-2-tracking-souls-to-the-afterlife.htm

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Near-death experiences occur when the soul leaves the nervous system and enters the universe, claim two quantum physics experts

Ground-breaking theory holds that quantum substances form the soul
They are part of the fundamental structure of the universe

By Damien Gayle

PUBLISHED: 10:38 GMT, 30 October 2012 | UPDATED: 11:26 GMT, 30 October 2012

Life after death: Dr Stuart Hameroff, Professor Emeritus at the University of Arizona, advanced the theory on a television documentary

Life after death: Dr Stuart Hameroff, Professor Emeritus at the University of Arizona, advanced the theory on a television documentary

A near-death experience happens when quantum substances which form the soul leave the nervous system and enter the universe at large, according to a remarkable theory proposed by two eminent scientists.

According to this idea, consciousness is a program for a quantum computer in the brain which can persist in the universe even after death, explaining the perceptions of those who have near-death experiences.

Dr Stuart Hameroff, Professor Emeritus at the Departments of Anesthesiology and Psychology and the Director of the Centre of Consciousness Studies at the University of Arizona, has advanced the quasi-religious theory.

It is based on a quantum theory of consciousness he and British physicist Sir Roger Penrose have developed which holds that the essence of our soul is contained inside structures called microtubules within brain cells.

They have argued that our experience of consciousness is the result of quantum gravity effects in these microtubules, a theory which they dubbed orchestrated objective reduction (Orch-OR).

Thus it is held that our souls are more than the interaction of neurons in the brain. They are in fact constructed from the very fabric of the universe - and may have existed since the beginning of time.

The concept is similar to the Buddhist and Hindu belief that consciousness is an integral part of the universe - and indeed that it is really all there may be, a position similar to Western philosophical idealism.

With these beliefs, Dr Hameroff holds that in a near-death experience the microtubules lose their quantum state, but the information within them is not destroyed. Instead it merely leaves the body and returns to the cosmos.

Dr Hameroff told the Science Channel's Through the Wormhole documentary: 'Let's say the heart stops beating, the blood stops flowing, the microtubules lose their quantum state.

'The quantum information within the microtubules is not destroyed, it can't be destroyed, it just distributes and dissipates to the universe at large.

'If the patient is resuscitated, revived, this quantum information can go back into the microtubules and the patient says "I had a near death experience".'

He adds: 'If they're not revived, and the patient dies, it's possible that this quantum information can exist outside the body, perhaps indefinitely, as a soul.'

The Orch-OR theory has come in for heavy criticism by more empirically minded thinkers and remains controversial among the scientific community.

MIT physicist Max Tegmark is just one of the many scientists to have challenged it, in a 2000 paper that is widely cited by opponents, the Huffington Post reports.

Nevertheless, Dr Hameroff believes that research in to quantum physics is beginning to validate Orch-Or, with quantum effects recently being shown to support many important biological processes, such as smell, bird navigation and photosynthesis.


Seems a lot of people are wondering about the same thing, at the same time

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PostWed Oct 31, 2012 3:16 pm » by Spock


Have not seen this episode, thanks for the heads up as I look forward to it.

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PostWed Oct 31, 2012 3:25 pm » by Seriouscitizen


Spock wrote:Have not seen this episode, thanks for the heads up as I look forward to it.

Looking forward to what exactly? Sure hope this interest isnt a sign for a journey into 'escapism'

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PostWed Oct 31, 2012 3:51 pm » by Spock


No, it's a life long fascination that's yielding more proof with medical advancements. I'm even considering finishing my education in psychology in order to participate in post graduate studies through Virginia's School of Perceptual Studies. What the hell, worse case scenario 8 years of education and I would still be somewhat young. And, thank God for online courses.

I've been on a journey of discovery ever since I was a child and it's because of things that I have experienced in many areas related to this site, that I pursued psychology in the first place, and what ultimately brought me to this website.

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PostWed Oct 31, 2012 4:23 pm » by Seriouscitizen


Spock wrote:No, it's a life long fascination that's yielding more proof with medical advancements. I'm even considering finishing my education in psychology in order to participate in post graduate studies through Virginia's School of Perceptual Studies. What the hell, worse case scenario 8 years of education and I would still be somewhat young. And, thank God for online courses.

I've been on a journey of discovery ever since I was a child and it's because of things that I have experienced in many areas related to this site, that I pursued psychology in the first place, and what ultimately brought me to this website.


Cool, i follow :flop: have fun with it. :)

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PostFri Nov 02, 2012 12:16 am » by Jetski


Spock wrote:I'll read your entire post in a bit Jetski, but I wanted to say I read Life Between Lives and it was a great read, it was probably one of the first books I ever read on the subject.

Guess what, Spock. I've read it before too :roll: albeit, several years ago. Honestly, I've lost count on the number of books (to do with anything regarding the afterlife) I've read over the years. Some of those books I have read not once but several times but for the life of me, I cannot remember the title of the books so always end up re-reading the same ones, lol. Can never get enough though. I too, find it fascinating. I visited our town library just the other day and was disappointed to find many of the books have disappeared. Not checked out, just disappeared and when enquiring at the counter, they had no idea where they've gone to. Sad, because at one time there were several shelves dedicated to the topic and now you'll be lucky to find a dozen at the very most. :cry: At the moment I am in the process of ordering Michael Newton's "Journey of Souls" and "Destiny of Souls" as I would like to start my own collection and add them to my home library. Are there any other books you recommend?

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PostFri Nov 02, 2012 12:30 am » by Spock


I'm interested in getting into the studies of the Monroe Institute and hemi-sync. I think that will get me where I want to go more effectively.

Last night I downloaded hemi-sync tones and attempted meditation, I was under the influence of pain killers, so I got a little paranoid, but I am going to stick with that for now and read all I can about what they have to offer, short of actually going to their facility.

So those would be my recommendations; "Proof of Heaven" the book and anything to do with the Monroe Institute and HemiSync.

Oh yea, and if you haven't seen "What the Bleep Do We Know", I think it somehow ties into this journey.

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PostFri Nov 02, 2012 12:42 am » by Teloc


we live once..

and we die..

and then we will be judged.. by him who made us..

its ZAT simple..

we all have but exactly ONE chance...

and we all... and i mean us here... EVERYONE on dtv... has heard ze message... theres no excuse...

life after death is either black.. or white...

hell or heaven...

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PostFri Nov 02, 2012 4:07 pm » by mediasorcery


wow spock, mainstream is finally catching up with what the ancients knew and have been saying in various ways for millenia, this is good, bloody great post mate, gr8 read, thanx a lot actually, i got a lot out of it,
the story of life is quicker than the blink of an eye, the story of love is hello and goodbye, until we meet again my friend.

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PostFri Nov 02, 2012 4:14 pm » by Spock


Thanks man, yea I was hoping this thread could really turn into a useful repository of ground breaking confirmation and education - and then Teloc posted. :P


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