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PostMon Sep 19, 2011 3:08 pm » by Noentry


Any Christian wanting to read the gospel of Judas ?
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THE GOSPEL OF JUDAS
Translated by
Rodolphe Kasser, Marvin Meyer, and Gregor Wurst,
in collaboration with François Gaudard
From The Gospel of Judas
Edited by Rodolphe Kasser, Marvin Meyer, and Gregor Wurst
Published in book form complete with commentary by The National Geographic
Society.
Copyright (c) 2006 by The National Geographic Society.
All rights reserved. No part of this translation may be reproduced or
transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical,
including photocopying, without permission in writing from the National
Geographic Society.
INTRODUCTION: INCIPIT


The secret account of the revelation that Jesus spoke in conversation with Judas Iscariot
during a week three days before he celebrated Passover.
THE EARTHLY MINISTRY OF JESUS
When Jesus appeared on earth, he performed miracles and great wonders for the salvation
of humanity. And since some [walked] in the way of righteousness while others walked
in their transgressions, the twelve disciples were called.
He began to speak with them about the mysteries beyond the world and what would
take place at the end. Often he did not appear to his disciples as himself, but he was found
among them as a child.
SCENE 1: Jesus dialogues with his disciples: The prayer of thanksgiving or the eucharist
One day he was with his disciples in Judea, and he found them gathered together and
seated in pious observance. When he [approached] his disciples, [34] gathered together
and seated and offering a prayer of thanksgiving over the bread, [he] laughed.
The disciples said to [him], “Master, why are you laughing at [our] prayer of
thanksgiving? We have done what is right.”
He answered and said to them, “I am not laughing at you. <You> are not doing this
because of your own will but because it is through this that your god [will be] praised.”
They said, “Master, you are […] the son of our god.”
Jesus said to them, “How do you know me? Truly [I] say to you, no generation of the
people that are among you will know me.”
THE DISCIPLES BECOME ANGRY
When his disciples heard this, they started getting angry and infuriated and began
blaspheming against him in their hearts.
When Jesus observed their lack of [understanding, he said] to them, “Why has this
agitation led you to anger? Your god who is within you and […] [35] have provoked you
to anger [within] your souls. [Let] any one of you who is [strong enough] among human
beings bring out the perfect human and stand before my face.”
They all said, “We have the strength.”
But their spirits did not dare to stand before [him], except for Judas Iscariot. He was
able to stand before him, but he could not look him in the eyes, and he turned his face
away.
Judas [said] to him, “I know who you are and where you have come from. You are
from the immortal realm of Barbelo. And I am not worthy to utter the name of the one
who has sent you.”
JESUS SPEAKS TO JUDAS PRIVATELY
Knowing that Judas was reflecting upon something that was exalted, Jesus said to him,
“Step away from the others and I shall tell you the mysteries of the kingdom. It is
possible for you to reach it, but you will grieve a great deal. [36] For someone else will
replace you, in order that the twelve [disciples] may again come to completion with their
god.”
Judas said to him, “When will you tell me these things, and [when] will the great day
of light dawn for the generation?”
But when he said this, Jesus left him.
SCENE 2: Jesus appears to the disciples again
The next morning, after this happened, Jesus [appeared] to his disciples again.
They said to him, “Master, where did you go and what did you do when you left us?”
Jesus said to them, “I went to another great and holy generation.”
His disciples said to him, “Lord, what is the great generation that is superior to us and
holier than us, that is not now in these realms?”
When Jesus heard this, he laughed and said to them, “Why are you thinking in your
hearts about the strong and holy generation? [37] Truly [I] say to you, no one born [of]
this aeon will see that [generation], and no host of angels of the stars will rule over that
generation, and no person of mortal birth can associate with it, because that generation
does not come from […] which has become […]. The generation of people among [you]
is from the generation of humanity […] power, which [… the] other powers […] by
[which] you rule.”
When [his] disciples heard this, they each were troubled in spirit. They could not say a
word.
Another day Jesus came up to [them]. They said to [him], “Master, we have seen you
in a [vision], for we have had great [dreams …] night […].”
[He said], “Why have [you … when] <you> have gone into hiding?” [38]
THE DISCIPLES SEE THE TEMPLE AND DISCUSS IT
They [said, “We have seen] a great [house with a large] altar [in it, and] twelve
men—they are the priests, we would say—and a name; and a crowd of people is waiting
at that altar, [until] the priests [… and receive] the offerings. [But] we kept waiting.”
[Jesus said], “What are [the priests] like?”
They [said, “Some …] two weeks; [some] sacrifice their own children, others their
wives, in praise [and] humility with each other; some sleep with men; some are involved
in [slaughter]; some commit a multitude of sins and deeds of lawlessness. And the men
who stand [before] the altar invoke your [name], [39] and in all the deeds of their
deficiency, the sacrifices are brought to completion […].”
After they said this, they were quiet, for they were troubled.
JESUS OFFERS AN ALLEGORICAL INTERPRETATION OF THE VISION OF THE TEMPLE
Jesus said to them, “Why are you troubled? Truly I say to you, all the priests who stand
before that altar invoke my name. Again I say to you, my name has been written on this
[…] of the generations of the stars through the human generations. [And they] have
planted trees without fruit, in my name, in a shameful manner.”
Jesus said to them, “Those you have seen receiving the offerings at the altar—that is
who you are. That is the god you serve, and you are those twelve men you have seen. The
cattle you have seen brought for sacrifice are the many people you lead astray [40] before
that altar. […] will stand and make use of my name in this way, and generations of the
pious will remain loyal to him. After hi another man will stand there from [the
fornicators], and another [will] stand there from the slayers of children, and another from
those who sleep with men, and those who abstain, and the rest of the people of pollution
and lawlessness and error, and those who say, ‘We are like angels’; they are the stars that
bring everything to its conclusion. For to the human generations it has been said, ‘Look,
God has received your sacrifice from the hands of a priest’—that is, a minister of error.
But it is the Lord, the Lord of the universe, who commands, ‘On the last day they will be
put to shame.’” [41]
Jesus said [to them], “Stop sac[rificing …] which you have […] over the altar, since
they are over your stars and your angels and have already come to their conclusion there.
So let them be [ensnared] before you, and let them go [—about 15 lines missing—]
generations […]. A baker cannot feed all creation [42] under [heaven]. And […] to them
[…] and […] to us and […].
Jesus said to them, “Stop struggling with me. Each of you has his own star, and
every[body—about 17 lines missing—] [43] in […] who has come [… spring] for the tree
[…] of this aeon […] for a time […] but he has come to water God’s paradise, and the
[generation] that will last, because [he] will not defile the [walk of life of] that
generation, but […] for all eternity.”
JUDAS ASKS JESUS ABOUT THAT GENERATION AND HUMAN GENERATIONS
Judas said to [him, “Rabb]i, what kind of fruit does this generation produce?”
Jesus said, “The souls of every human generation will die. When these people,
however, have completed the time of the kingdom and the spirit leaves them, their bodies
will die but their souls will be alive, and they will be taken up.”
Judas said, “And what will the rest of the human generations do?”
Jesus said, “It is impossible [44] to sow seed on [rock] and harvest its fruit. [This] is
also the way […] the [defiled] generation […] and corruptible Sophia […] the hand that
has created mortal people, so that their souls go up to the eternal realms above. [Truly] I
say to you, […] angel […] power will be able to see that […] these to whom […] holy
generations […].”
After Jesus said this, he departed.
SCENE 3: Judas recounts a vision and Jesus responds
Judas said, “Master, as you have listened to all of them, now also listen to me. For I have
seen a great vision.”
When Jesus heard this, he laughed and said to him, “You thirteenth spirit, why do you
try so hard? But speak up, and I shall bear with you.”
Judas said to him, “In the vision I saw myself as the twelve disciples were stoning me
and [45] persecuting [me severely]. And I also came to the place where […] after you. I
saw [a house …], and my eyes could not [comprehend] its size. Great people were
surrounding it, and that house <had> a roof of greenery, and in the middle of the house
was [a crowd—two lines missing—], saying, ‘Master, take me in along with these
people.’”
[Jesus] answered and said, “Judas, your star has led you astray.” He continued, “No
person of mortal birth is worthy to enter the house you have seen, for that place is
reserved for the holy. Neither the sun nor the moon will rule there, nor the day, but the
holy will abide there always, in the eternal realm with the holy angels. Look, I have
explained to you the mysteries of the kingdom [46] and I have taught you about the error
of the stars; and […] send it […] on the twelve aeons.”
JUDAS ASKS ABOUT HIS OWN FATE
Judas said, “Master, could it be that my seed is under the control of the rulers?”
Jesus answered and said to him, “Come, that I [—two lines missing—], but that you
will grieve much when you see the kingdom and all its generation.”
When he heard this, Judas said to him, “What good is it that I have received it? For
you have set me apart for that generation.”
Jesus answered and said, “You will become the thirteenth, and you will be cursed by
the other generations—and you will come to rule over them. In the last days they will
curse your ascent [47] to the holy [generation].”
JESUS TEACHES JUDAS ABOUT COSMOLOGY: THE SPIRIT AND THE SELF-GENERATED
Jesus said, “[Come], that I may teach you about [secrets] no person [has] ever seen. For
there exists a great and boundless realm, whose extent no generation of angels has seen,
[in which] there is [a] great invisible [Spirit],
which no eye of an angel has ever seen,
no thought of the heart has ever comprehended,
and it was never called by any name.
“And a luminous cloud appeared there. He said, ‘Let an angel come into being as my
attendant.’
“A great angel, the enlightened divine Self-Generated, emerged from the cloud.
Because of him, four other angels came into being from another cloud, and they became
attendants for the angelic Self-Generated. The Self-Generated said, [48] ‘Let […] come
into being […],’ and it came into being […]. And he [created] the first luminary to reign
over him. He said, ‘Let angels come into being to serve [him],’ and myriads without
number came into being. He said, ‘[Let] an enlightened aeon come into being,’ and he
came into being. He created the second luminary [to] reign over him, together with
myriads of angels without number, to offer service. That is how he created the rest of the
enlightened aeons. He made them reign over them, and he created for them myriads of
angels without number, to assist them.
ADAMAS AND THE LUMINARIES
“Adamas was in the first luminous cloud that no angel has ever seen among all those
called ‘God.’ He [49] […] that […] the image […] and after the likeness of [this] angel.
He made the incorruptible [generation] of Seth appear […] the twelve […] the twentyfour
[…]. He made seventy-two luminaries appear in the incorruptible generation, in
accordance with the will of the Spirit. The seventy-two luminaries themselves made three
hundred sixty luminaries appear in the incorruptible generation, in accordance with the
will of the Spirit, that their number should be five for each.
“The twelve aeons of the twelve luminaries constitute their father, with six heavens for
each aeon, so that there are seventy-two heavens for the seventy-two luminaries, and for
each [50] [of them five] firmaments, [for a total of] three hundred sixty [firmaments …].
They were given authority and a [great] host of angels [without number], for glory and
adoration, [and after that also] virgin spirits, for glory and [adoration] of all the aeons and
the heavens and their firmaments.
THE COSMOS, CHAOS, AND THE UNDERWORLD
“The multitude of those immortals is called the cosmos— that is, perdition—by the
Father and the seventy-two luminaries who are with the Self-Generated and his seventytwo
aeons. In him the first human appeared with his incorruptible powers. And the aeon
that appeared with his generation, the aeon in whom are the cloud of knowledge and the
angel, is called [51] El. […] aeon […] after that […] said, ‘Let twelve angels come into
being [to] rule over chaos and the [underworld].’ And look, from the cloud there
appeared an [angel] whose face flashed with fire and whose appearance was defiled with
blood. His name was Nebro, which means ‘rebel’; others call him Yaldabaoth. Another
angel, Saklas, also came from the cloud. So Nebro created six angels—as well as
Saklas—to be assistants, and these produced twelve angels in the heavens, with each one
receiving a portion in the heavens.
THE RULERS AND ANGELS
“The twelve rulers spoke with the twelve angels: ‘Let each of you [52] […] and let them
[…] generation [—one line lost—] angels’:
The first is [S]eth, who is called Christ.
The [second] is Harmathoth, who is […].
The [third] is Galila.
The fourth is Yobel.
The fifth [is] Adonaios.
These are the five who ruled over the underworld, and first of all over chaos.
THE CREATION OF HUMANITY
“Then Saklas said to his angels, ‘Let us create a human being after the likeness and after
the image.’ They fashioned Adam and his wife Eve, who is called, in the cloud, Zoe. For
by this name all the generations seek the man, and each of them calls the woman by these
names. Now, Sakla did not [53] com[mand …] except […] the gene[rations …] this […].
And the [ruler] said to Adam, ‘You shall live long, with your children.’”
JUDAS ASKS ABOUT THE DESTINY OF ADAM AND HUMANITY
Judas said to Jesus, “[What] is the long duration of time that the human being will live?”
Jesus said, “Why are you wondering about this, that Adam, with his generation, has
lived his span of life in the place where he has received his kingdom, with longevity with
his ruler?”
Judas said to Jesus, “Does the human spirit die?”
Jesus said, “This is why God ordered Michael to give the spirits of people to them as a
loan, so that they might offer service, but the Great One ordered Gabriel to grant spirits to
the great generation with no ruler over it—that is, the spirit and the soul. Therefore, the
[rest] of the souls [54] [—one line missing—].
JESUS DISCUSSES THE DESTRUCTION OF THE WICKED WITH JUDAS AND OTHERS
“[…] light [—nearly two lines missing—] around […] let […] spirit [that is] within you
dwell in this [flesh] among the generations of angels. But God caused knowledge to be
[given] to Adam and those with him, so that the kings of chaos and the underworld might
not lord it over them.”
Judas said to Jesus, “So what will those generations do?”
Jesus said, “Truly I say to you, for all of them the stars bring matters to completion.
When Saklas completes the span of time assigned for him, their first star will appear with
the generations, and they will finish what they said they would do. Then they will
fornicate in my name and slay their children [55] and they will […] and [—about six and
a half lines missing—] my name, and he will […] your star over the [thir]teenth aeon.”
After that Jesus [laughed].
[Judas said], “Master, [why are you laughing at us]?”
[Jesus] answered [and said], “I am not laughing [at you] but at the error of the stars,
because these six stars wander about with these five combatants, and they all will be
destroyed along with their creatures.”
JESUS SPEAKS OF THOSE WHO ARE BAPTIZED, AND JUDAS’S BETRAYAL
Judas said to Jesus, “Look, what will those who have been baptized in your name do?”
Jesus said, “Truly I say [to you], this baptism [56] […] my name [—about nine lines
missing—] to me. Truly [I] say to you, Judas, [those who] offer sacrifices to Saklas […]
God [—three lines missing—] everything that is evil.
“But you will exceed all of them. For you will sacrifice the man that clothes me.
Already your horn has been raised,
your wrath has been kindled,
your star has shown brightly,
and your heart has […]. [57]
“Truly […] your last […] become [—about two and a half lines missing—], grieve
[—about two lines missing—] the ruler, since he will be destroyed. And then the image
of the great generation of Adam will be exalted, for prior to heaven, earth, and the angels,
that generation, which is from the eternal realms, exists. Look, you have been told
everything. Lift up your eyes and look at the cloud and the light within it and the stars
surrounding it. The star that leads the way is your star.”
Judas lifted up his eyes and saw the luminous cloud, and he entered it. Those standing
on the ground heard a voice coming from the cloud, saying, [58] […] great generation
[…] … image […] [—about five lines missing—].
CONCLUSION: JUDAS BETRAYS JESUS
[…] Their high priests murmured because [he] had gone into the guest room for his
prayer. But some scribes were there watching carefully in order to arrest him during the
prayer, for they were afraid of the people, since he was regarded by all as a prophet.
They approached Judas and said to him, “What are you doing here? You are Jesus’
disciple.”
Judas answered them as they wished. And he received some money and handed him over
to them.
THE GOSPEL OF JUDAS

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PostMon Sep 19, 2011 3:23 pm » by Noentry


This is the Gospel of Mary most is missing.

[The Coptic papyrus, from which the first six pages have been lost, begins in the middle of
this gospel.]


"...will, then, matter be saved or not?"
The Savior said, "All natures, all formed things, all creatures exist in and with one another
and will again be resolved into their own roots, because the nature of matter is dissolved into
the roots of its nature alone. He who has ears to hear, let him hear." [cf. Matt. 11:15, etc.].
Peter said to him, "Since you have now explained all things to us, tell us this: what is the sin
of the world?" [cf. John 1:29]. The Savior said, "Sin as such does not exist, but you make sin
when you do what is of the nature of fornication, which is called 'sin.' For this reason the
Good came into your midst, to the essence of each nature, to restore it to its root." He went on
to say, "For this reason you come into existence and die [...] whoever knows may know [...] a
suffering which has nothing like itself, which has arisen out of what is contrary to nature.
Then there arises a disturbance in the whole body. For this reason I said to you, Be of good
courage [cf. Matt. 28:9], and if you are discouraged, still take courage over against the various
forms of nature. He who has ears to hear, let him hear." When the Blessed One said this, he
greeted all of them, saying "Peace be with you [cf. John 14:27]. Receive my peace for
yourselves. Take heed lest anyone lead you astray with the words, 'Lo, here!' or 'Lo, there!'
[cf. Matt. 24:5, 23; Luke 17:21] for the Son of Man is within you [cf. Luke 17:21]. Follow
him; those who seek him will find him [cf. Matt. 7:7]. Go, therefore, and preach the Gospel of
the Kingdom [cf. Matt. 4:23; 9:15; Mark 16:15]. I have left no commandment but what I have
commanded you, and I have given you no law, as the lawgiver did, lest you be bound by it."
They grieved and mourned greatly, saying, "How shall we go to the Gentiles and preach the
Gospel of the Kingdom of the Son of Man? If even he was not spared, how shall we be
spared?"
Then Mary stood up and greeted all of them and said to her brethren, "Do not mourn or grieve
or be irresolute, for his grace will be with you all and will defend you. Let us rather praise his
greatness, for he prepared us and made us into men." When Mary said this, their hearts
changed for the better, and they began to discuss the words of the [Savior].
Peter said to Mary, "Sister, we know that the Savior loved you more than other women [cf.
John 11:5, Luke 10:38-42]. Tell us the words of the Savior which you have in mind since you
know them; and we do not, nor have we heard of them."
Mary answered and said, "What is hidden from you I will impart to you." And she began to
say the following words to them. "I," she said, "I saw the Lord in a vision and I said to him,
'Lord, I saw you today in a vision.' He answered and said to me, 'Blessed are you, since you
did not waver at the sight of me. For where the mind is, there is your countenance' [cf. Matt.
6:21]. I said to him, 'Lord, the mind which sees the vision, does it see it through the soul or
through the spirit?' The Savior answered and said, 'It sees neither through the soul nor through
the spirit, but the mind, which is between the two, which sees the vision, and it is...'"
"...and Desire said, 'I did not see you descend; but now I see you rising. Why do you speak
falsely, when you belong to me?' The soul answered and said, 'I saw you, but you did not see
me or recognize me; I served you as a garment and you did not recognize me.' After it had
said this, it went joyfully and gladly away. Again it came to the third power, Ignorance. This
power questioned the soul: 'Whither are you going? You were bound in wickedness, you were
bound indeed. Judge not' [cf. Matt. 7:1]. And the soul said, 'Why do you judge me, when I
judged not? I was bound, though I did not bind. I was not recognized, but I recognized that all
will go free, things both earthly and heavenly.' After the soul had left the third power behind,
it rose upward, and saw the fourth power, which had seven forms. The first form is darkness,
the second desire, the third ignorance, the fourth the arousing of death, the fifth is the
kingdom of the flesh, the sixth is the wisdom of the folly of the flesh, the seventh is wrathful
wisdom. These are the seven participants in wrath. They ask the soul, 'Whence do you come,
killer of men, or where are you going, conqueror of space?' The soul answered and said,
'What seizes me is killed; what turns me about is overcome; my desire has come to an end and
ignorance is dead. In a world I was saved from a world, and in a "type," from a higher "type"
and from the fetter of the impotence of knowledge, the existence of which is temporal. From
this time I will reach rest in the time of the moment of the Aeon in silence.'"
When Mary had said this, she was silent, since the Savior had spoken thus far with her. But
Andrew answered and said to the brethren, 'Say what you think concerning what she said. For
I do not believe that the Savior said this. For certainly these teachings are of other ideas."
Peter also opposed her in regard to these matters and asked them about the Savior. "Did he
then speak secretly with a woman [cf. John 4:27], in preference to us, and not openly? Are we
to turn back and all listen to her? Did he prefer her to us?" Then Mary grieved and said to
Peter, "My brother Peter, what do you think? Do you think that I thought this up myself in my
heart or that I am lying concerning the Savior?"
Levi answered and said to Peter, "Peter, you are always irate. Now I see that you are
contending against the woman like the adversaries. But if the Savior made her worthy, who
are you to reject her? Surely the Savior knew her very well [cf. Luke 10:38- 42]. For this
reason he loved her more than us [cf. John 11:5]. And we should rather be ashamed and put
on the Perfect Man, to form us [?] as he commanded us, and proclaim the gospel, without
publishing a further commandment or a further law than the one which the Savior spoke."
When Levi had said this, they began to go out in order to proclaim him and preach him.


How ever perfect you think Jesus was he was still a man who loved ,in fact the Muslims believe he was the profit of love .
So why could he not love Mary more then others?
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PostMon Sep 19, 2011 3:31 pm » by Noentry


This is the gospel of Thomas
if you are interested here it is


These are the secret sayingsº which the living Yeshúaº has spoken and
Didymos Judas Thomasº inscribed. (Jer 23:18, Mt 13:34, Lk 1:1, 8:10, 10:21, Jn 21:25)
1. And he {says¹}: Whoever finds the interpretation of these sayings shall not taste
death. (Isa 25:8, Lk 9:27, Jn 5:24, 8:51; this is apparently an introductory logion quoting
Thomas himself, included [like Jn 21:24] by his own disciples, since it speaks of the
following as a collection of sayings; ¹thruout the Greek fragments of Thomas, 'x says' is
in the present tense)
2. Yeshúa says: Let him who seeks not cease seeking until he finds, and when he
finds he shall be troubled, and when he has been troubled he shall marvel and he
shall reign over everyone¹ {and find repose}. (¹or over the totalityº; Dan 7:27, Lk 1:29,
22:25-30!, Rev/Ap 1:6, 3:21, 20:4, 22:5; =Clement of Alexandria, Stromata II.9 & V.14)
3. Yeshúa says: If those who would lead you, say to you: Behold, the Sovereignty is
in the skyº!, then the birds of the sky would precede you. If they say to you: It is in
the sea!, then the fish {of the sea} would precede you. But the Sovereignty {of God}
is within you and it is without you. {Those who come to recognizeº themselves shall
find it, and when you come to recognize yourselves} then you shall know that you
are the Sons of the Living Father. Yet if you do not recognize yourselves then you
are impoverished and you are poverty. (Gen 6:2, Dt 30:11-14, Hos 1:10, Mal 2:10, Lk
11:41, 17:21, Plato's Philebus 48c, 63c)
4. Yeshúa says: The person old in days will not hesitate to ask a little child of seven
days concerning the place of life— and he shall live. For many who are first shall
become last, {and the last first}. And they shall become a single unity. (Gen 2:2-3,
17:12, Mt 11:25-26, 18:1-6, 10-14)
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5. Yeshúa says: Recognize Him in front of thy face, and what is hidden from thee
shall be revealed to thee. For there is nothing concealed which shall not be manifest,
{and nothing buried that shall not be raised¹}. (=Mt 10:26; ¹re 'Gnosticismº'; in his
scriptural Traditions the Apostle Matthias [Ac 1:21-26] relates Christ's logion: 'Wonder
at what is in front of you'— quoted by Clement of Alexandria, Stromata II.9)
6. His Disciples ask him,¹ they say to him: How do thou want us to fast, and how
shall we pray? And how shall we give alms, and what diet shall we maintain? ||
Yeshúa says: Do not lie, and do not practice what you hate— for everythingº is
revealed before the face of the sky. For there is nothing concealed that shall not be
manifest, and there is nothing covered that shall remain without being exposed. (Lev
19:11; ¹asyndeton, or omission of conjunctions, characterizing Semitic languages but not
Greek or Coptic— thus signaling an underlying Semitic source-text)
7. Yeshúa says: Blestº be the lion which the human eats— and the lion shall become
human. And accursed be the human which the lion eats— and the [human] shall
become [lion].
8. And he says: The [Sovereignty] is like a wise fisherman who cast his net into the
sea. He drew it up from the sea full of small fish. Among them he found a large good
fish. That wise fisherman, he threw all the small fish back into the sea,¹ he chose the
large fish without hesitation. Whoever has ears to hear, let him hear! (¹asyndeton;
=Mt 13:47-48)
9. Yeshúa says: Behold, the sower came forth— he filled his hand, he threw. Some
indeed fell upon the road— the birds came, they gathered them. Others fell on the
bedrock— and they did not take root down into the soil, and did not sprout grain
skyward. And others fell among the thorns— they choked the seed, and the worm
ate them. And others fell upon the good earth— and it produced good fruit up
toward the sky, it bore 60-fold and 120-fold. (multiple asyndeta; Mt 13:18-23, =Mk
4:3-9)
10. Yeshúa says: I have cast fire upon the worldº— and behold, I guard it until it is
ablaze. (Lk 12:49)
11. Yeshúa says: This sky shall pass away, and the one above it shall pass away. (IKi
8:27!, Isa 65:17, Rev/Ap 21:1) And the dead are not alive, and the living shall not
die. In the days when you consumed the dead, you transformed it to life— when you
come into the Light, what will you do? On the day when you were united, you
became separated— yet when you have become separated, what will you do? (Mt
24:35, Ph 86!)
12. The Disciples say to Yeshúa: We know that thou shall go away from us. Who is
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it that shall be Rabbiº over us? || Yeshúa says to them: In the place that you have
come, you shall go to Jacob the Righteousº, for whose sake the sky and earth come
to be. (apparently a post-resurrection dialog; see Jn 7:5 & Ac 1:14)
13. Yeshúa says to his Disciples: Make a comparison to me, and tell me whom I
resemble. (Isa 46:5) || Shimon Kefaº says to him: Thou are like a righteous angel. ||
Matthewº says to him: Thou are like a philosopherº of the heart. || Thomas says to
him: Teacher, my mouth will not at all be capable of saying whom thou are like! ||
Yeshúa says: I'm not thy teacher, now that thou have drunk, thou have become
drunken from the bubbling spring which I have measured out. And he takes him, he
withdraws, he speaks three words to him:
ahyh ashr ahyh
I-Am Who I-Am
Now when Thomas comes to his comrades, they inquire of him: What did Yeshúa
say to thee? || Thomas says to them: If I tell you even one of the words which he
spoke to me, you will take up stones to cast at me— and fire will come from the
stones to consume you. (the Name does not appear in the papyrus, but can be inferred;
Ex 3:14, Lev 24:16, Mk 14:62, Lk 6:40, Jn 4:14, 15:1, Th 61b, 77, cp. Odes of St.
Solomon 11:6-9— 'I drank and was inebriated with the living water that does not die';
note also the infinite gematria of Ex 3:14159...)
14. Yeshúa says to them: If you fast¹, you shall beget transgressionº for yourselves.
And if you pray¹, you shall be condemned. And if you give alms¹, you shall cause evil
to your spirits. And when you go into any land to travel in the regions, if they
receive you then eat what they set before you and heal the sick among them. For
what goes into your mouth will not defile you— but rather what comes out of your
mouth, that is what will defile you. (¹in public; Isa 58:6-9, Mk 7:14-23!, Mt 6:1-6 & 16-
18, Lk 18:1!, =Lk 10:8-9, Th 6, 95, 104, Ph 74)
15. Yeshúa says: When you see him who was not born of woman, prostrate
yourselves upon your faces and worship him— he is your Father. (Th 101!)
16. Yeshúa says: People perhaps think that I have come to cast peace upon the
world, and they do not know that I have come to cast conflicts upon the earth— fire,
sword, warº. (Isa 66:15-16, Joel 2:30-31, Zeph 3:8, Mal 4:1, Th 10) For there shall be
five in a house— three shall be against two and two against three, the father against
the son and the son against the father. And they shall stand as solitaries. (=Mic 7:6,
=Lk 12:49-53)
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17. Yeshúa says: I shall give to you what eye has not seen and what ear has not
heard and what hand has not touched and what has not arisen in the mind of
mankind. (Isa 64:4)
18. The Disciples say to Yeshúa: Tell us how our end shall be. (Ps 39:4) || Yeshúa
says: Have you then discovered the originº, so that you inquire about the end? For
at the place where the origin is, there shall be the end. Blest be he who shall stand at
the origin— and he shall know the end, and he shall not taste death. (Lk 20:38, Th 1)
19. Yeshúa says: Blest be he who was before he came into being. If you become
Disciples to me and heed my sayings, these stones shall serve you. For you have five
treesº in paradise, which in summer are unmoved and in winter their leaves do not
fall— whoever is acquainted with them shall not taste death. (Th 1, 18)
20. The Disciples say to Yeshúa: Tell us what the Sovereignty of the Heavensº is
like. || He says to them: It resembles a mustard seed, smaller than all (other) seeds—
yet when it falls on the tilled earth, it produces a great plant and becomes shelter for
the birds of the sky. (=Mk 4:30-32)
21. Mariamº says to Yeshúa: Whom are thy Disciples like? || He says: They are like
little children who are sojourning in a field which is not theirs. When the owners of
the field come, they will say: Leave our field to us! They take off their clothing in
front of them in order to yield it to them and to give back their field to them.
Therefore I say, if the householder ascertains that the thief is coming, he will be
alert before he arrives and will not allow him to dig thru into the house of his
domain to carry away his belongings. Yet you, beware of the systemº— gird up your
loins with great strength lest the bandits find a way to reach you, for they will find
the advantage which you anticipate. Let there be among you a person of
awareness— when the fruit ripened, he came quickly with his sickle in his hand,¹ he
reaped it. Whoever has ears to hear, let him hear! (¹asyndeton; =Mt 24:43-44)
22. Yeshúa sees little children who are being suckled. He says to his Disciples: These
little children who are being suckled are like those who enter the Sovereignty. ||
They say to him: Shall we thus by becoming little children enter the Sovereignty? ||
Yeshúa says to them: When you make the two one, and you make the inside as the
outside and the outside as the inside and the above as the below, and if you establish
the male with the female as a single unity so that the man will not be masculine and
the woman not be feminine, when you establish [an eye] in the place of an eye and a
hand in the place of a hand and a foot in the place of a foot and an imageº in the
place of an image— then shall you enter [the Sovereignty]. (Mt 18:3; ; =Clement of
Alexandria, Stromata III.13; cp. Odes of St. Solomon 34:5, 'The likeness of what is
below, is that which is above— for everything is above; what is below is nothing but the
delusion of those who are without knowledge'; also Socrates in Plato's Phaedrus,
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'Beloved Pan, and whatever other gods be present, grant me to be handsome in inward
soul, and that the outside and the inside be one')
23. Yeshúa says: I shall choose you, one from a thousand and two from ten
thousand— and they shall stand as a single unity. (Dt 32:30, Ecc 7:28, Jer 3:14)
24. His Disciples say: Show us thy place, for it is compulsory for us to seek it. || He
says to them: Whoever has ears, let him hear! Within a person of light there is light,
and he illumines the entire world. When he does not shine, there is darkness. (Mt
5:14-16, Jn 13:36)
25. Yeshúa says: Love thy Brother as thy soul, protect him as the pupil of thine eye.
(asyndeton; Dt 32:10, I-Sam 18:1, Ps 17:8, Jn 13:34-35)
26. Yeshúa says: The mote which is in thy Brother's eye thou see— but the plank
that is in thine own eye thou see not. When thou cast the plank out of thine own eye,
then shall thou see clearly to cast the mote out of thy Brother's eye. (=Mt 7:3-5)
27. (Yeshúa says:) Unless you fast from the system, you shall not find the
Sovereignty {of God}. Unless you keep the (entire) week as Sabbathº, you shall not
behold the Father. (Mk 1:13, Jn 5:19!; ; =Clement of Alexandria, Stromata III.15; see
Paterson Brown, ' The Sabbath and the Week in Thomas 27 ', Novum Testamentum 1992)
28. Yeshúa says: I stood in the midst of the world, and incarnateº I appeared to
them.¹ I found them all drunk, I found none among them athirst. And my soul was
grieved for the sons of men, for they are blind in their hearts and do not see that
empty they have come into the world and that empty they are destined to come forth
again from the world. (Ecc 6:15) However, now they are drunk— when they have
shaken off their wine, then shall they rethinkº . (¹anti-Gnostic!, Jn 1:14; this appears to
be a post-resurrection saying)
29. Yeshúa says: If the flesh has come to be because of spirit, it is a marvel— yet if
spirit because of the body, it would be a marvel among marvels. But I marvel at this,
how this great wealth has inhabited this poverty. (Ph 23)
30. Yeshúa says: Where there are three gods, they are {godless. Where there is only
one, I say that} I myself am with him. {Raise the stone and there you shall find me,
cleave the wood and there am I.} (see e.g. The Letter of Aristeas 15-16; cleaving the
wood could be seen as a metaphor for the crucifixion, removing the stone for the
resurrection)
31. Yeshúa says: No oracleº is accepted in his own village, no physician heals those
who know him. (asyndeton; =Mk 6:4)
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32. Yeshúa says: A city being built upon a high mountain and fortified cannot fall
nor can it be hidden. (Mt 5:14)
33. Yeshúa says: What thou shall hear in thy ear proclaim to other ears from your
rooftops. For no one kindles a lamp and sets it under a basket nor puts it in a hidden
place, but rather it is placed upon the lampstand so that everyone who comes in and
goes out will see its light. (=Mt 5:15, =10:27, =Mk 4:21)
34. Yeshúa says: If a blind person leads a blind person, both together fall into a pit.
(=Mt 15:14)
35. Yeshúa says: It is impossible for anyone to enter the house of the strong to take
it by force, unless he binds his hands— then he will ransack his house. (Isa 49:24-25,
=Mk 3:27)
36. Yeshúa says: Be not anxious in the morning about the evening nor in the
evening about the morning, {neither for your [food] that you shall eat nor for [your
garments] that you shall wear. You are much superior to the [windflowers] which
neither comb (wool) nor [spin] (thread). When you have no clothing, what do [you
wear]? Or who can increase your stature? He himself shall give to you your
garment.} (garment = imagery?!: see Th 37, 84, Ph 26, 107, 'Angel and Image' below, as
well as the ancient and delightful 'Hymn of the Pearl'; =Mt 6:25)
37. His Disciples say: When will thou appear to us, and when shall we behold thee?
|| Yeshúa says: When you take off your garments without being ashamed, and take
your garments and place them under your feet to tread on them as the little children
do— then [shall you behold] the Son of the Living-One, and you shall not fear. (Gen
2:25, 3:7, Isa 19:2; =Clement of Alexandria, Stromata III.13; garments = images?!; this
appears to be a post-resurrection dialog)
38. Yeshúa says: Many times have you yearned to hear these sayings which I speak
to you, and you have no one else from whom to hear them. There will be days when
you will seek me but you shall not find me. (Prov 1:28, Lk 17:22)
39. Yeshúa says: The clergyº and the theologiansº have received the keys of
recognition, but they have hidden them. They did not enter, nor did they permit
those to enter who wished to. Yet you— become astute as serpents and pure as
doves. (Mt 5:20, 23:1-39, =Lk 11:52, =Mt 10:16)
40. Yeshúa says: A vine has been planted without the Father, and as it is not viable
it shall be pulled up by its roots and destroyed. (Mt 15:13)
41. Yeshúa says: Whoever has in his hand, to him shall (more) be given. And
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whoever does not have, from him shall be taken even the trifle which he has. (=Mt
13:12)
42. Yeshúa says: Become transientsº (passers-by). (Mt 10:1-23, 28:19-20, Jn 16:28;
thus Sylvia Plath, Unabridged Journals: 'I can only pass on. Something in me wants
more.... There is still time to veer, to sally forth, knapsack on back, for unknown hills
over which ··· only the wind knows what lies.')
43. His Disciples say to him: Who are thou, that thou say these things to us? ||
(Yeshúa says to them:) From what I say to you, you do not recognize who I be, but
rather you have become as the Jews— for they love the tree but hate its fruit, and
they love the fruit but hate the tree. (Mt 12:33, Jn 4:22)
44. Yeshúa says: Whoever vilifies the Father, it shall be forgiven him. And whoever
vilifies the Son, it shall be forgiven him. Yet whoever vilifies the Holy Spirit, it shall
not be forgiven him— neither on earth nor in heaven. (=Mk 3:28-29)
45. Yeshúa says: They do not harvest grapes from thorns, nor do they gather figs
from thistles— for they give no fruit. A good person brings forth goodness out of his
treasure. A bad person brings forth wickednessº out of his evil treasure which is in
his heart, and he speaks oppressively— for out of the abundance of the heart he
brings forth wickedness. (I-Sam 24:13, =Mt 7:16, =12:34-35)
46. Yeshúa says: From Adamº until John the Baptistº there is among those born of
women none more exalted than John the Baptist— so that his eyes shall not be
broken. Yet I have said that whoever among you becomes childlike shall know the
Sovereignty, and he shall become more exalted than John. (Th 15, =Lk 7:28)
47. Yeshúa says: It is impossible for a person to mount two horses or to stretch two
bows, and a slave cannot serve two masters— otherwise he will honor the one and
offend the other. No person drinks vintageº wine and immediately desires to drink
new wine, and they do not put new (wine) into old wineskins lest they burst, and
they do not put vintage wine into new wineskins lest it sour. They do not sew an old
patch on a new garment because there would come a split. (=Lk 5:36-39, =16:13)
48. Yeshúa says: If two make peace with each other in this one house, they shall say
to the mountain: Be moved!— and it shall be moved. (=Mt 17:20, =18:19)
49. Yeshúa says: Blest be the solitary and chosen— for you shall find the
Sovereignty. You have come from it, and unto it you shall return. (Jn 16:28; cp.
Plotinus, Enneads, I.6.8: 'The Fatherland to us is there whence we have come, and there
is the Father')
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50. Yeshúa says: If they say to you: 'From whence do you come?', say to them: 'We
have come from the Light, the place where the Light has originated thru himself—
he [stood] and he himself appeared in their imagery.' If they say to you: 'Who are
you?', say: 'We are his Sons and we are the chosen of the Living Father.' If they ask
you: 'What is the sign of your Father in you?', say to them: 'It is movement with
repose.' (Lk 16:8, Jn 12:36, Th 28)
51. His Disciples say to him: When will the repose of the dead occur, and when will
the New World come? || He says to them: That which you look for has already come,
but you do not recognize it.
52. His Disciples say to him: Twenty-four prophetsº proclaimed in Israel, and they
all spoke within thee. || He says to them: You have ignored the Living-One who is
facing you, and you have spoken about the dead. (Th 5)
53. His Disciples say to him: Is circumcision beneficial or not? || He says to them: If
it were beneficial, their father would beget them circumcised from their mother. But
the true spiritual circumcision has become entirely beneficial.
54. Yeshúa says: Blest be the poor, for the Sovereignty of the Skies is yours. (Jas
2:5-7, =Lk 6:20; note that Mt 5:3 can be read equally 'Blest are the poor in spirit' or 'Blest
in spirit are the poor'— of which the latter makes more sense, since the parallel at Lk
6:20&24 explicitly concerns economic poverty/wealth rather than spiritual
humility/pride)
55. Yeshúa says: Whoever does not hate his father and his mother will not be able
to become a Disciple to me. And whoever does not hate his brothers and his sisters
and does not take up his own cross¹ in my way, will not become worthy of me. (¹anti-
Gnostic, manuscript: ; =Lk 14:26-27)
56. Yeshúa says: Whoever has recognized the system has found a corpse— and
whoever has found a corpse, of him the system is not worthy.
57. Yeshúa says: The Sovereignty of the Father is like a person who has [good] seed.
His enemy came by night,¹ he sowed a weed among the good seed. The man did not
permit them to pull up the weed,¹ he says to them: Lest perhaps you go forth saying:
'We shall pull up the weed', and you pull up the wheat along with it. For on the day
of harvest the weeds will appear— they pull them and burn them. (¹asyndeton; II-Pt
3:15-17?!, =Mt 13:24-30)
58. Yeshúa says: Blest be the person who has suffered— he has found the life.
(asyndeton; Mt 5:10-12, Jas 1:12, I-Pt 3:14; thus Victor Hugo, Les Misérables: 'To have
suffered, how good it is!')
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59. Yeshúa says: Behold the Living-One while you are alive, lest you die and seek to
perceive him and be unable to see. (Ecc 12:1-8)
60. (They see) a Samaritanº carrying a lamb, entering Judea. Yeshúa says to them:
Why does he (take) the lamb with him? || They say to him: So that he may kill it and
eat it. || He says to them: While it is alive he will not eat it, but only after he kills it
and it becomes a corpse. || They say: Otherwise he will not be able to do it. || He says
to them: You yourselves— seek a place for yourselves in repose, lest you become
corpses and be eaten. (Th 1; thus Thomas Mann, The Magic Mountain: 'The spiritual
possibility of finding salvation in repose')
61a. Yeshúa says: Two will rest on a bed°— the one shall die, the other shall live.
(asyndeton; =Lk 17:34)
61b. Salomeº says: Who are thou, man? As if (sent) by someone, thou laid upon my
bedº and thou ate from my table.¹ || Yeshúa says to her: I-Am he who is from
equality. To me have been given from the things of my Father. || (Salome says:) I'm
thy Disciple.² || (Yeshúa says to her:) Thus I say that whenever someone equalizes he
shall be filled with light, yet whenever he is divisive he shall be filled with darkness.
(¹S-of-S 1:4; cp. Teresa of Ávila, The Interior Castle, VI.4.1: 'All is to desire to enjoy the
Husband more,... to be ardent to mate with such a grand Lord and take him as Husband';
²'thy Disciple': Coptic tek. indicates a masculine possessive of a feminine noun— see
Plumley, Biblio.#4, §50 )
62. Yeshúa says: I tell my mysteries to those [who are worthy of] my mysteries.
What thy right (hand) shall do, let not thy left (hand) ascertain what it does. (Mk
4:10-12, =Mt 6:3)
63. Yeshúa says: There was a wealthy person who possessed much money, and he
said: I shall utilize my money so that I may sow and reap and replant, to fill my
storehouses with fruit so that I lack nothing. This is what he thought in his heart—
and that night he died. Whoever has ears, let him hear! (=Lk 12:16-21)
64a. Yeshúa says: A person had houseguests, and when he had prepared the
banquet he sent his slave to invite the guests. He went to the first, he says to him:
My master invites thee. He replied: I have some business with some merchants, they
are coming to me in the evening, I shall go to place my orders with them— I beg to
be excused from the banquet. He went to another, he says to him: My master has
invited thee. He replied to him: I have bought a house and they require me for a
day, I shall have no leisure time. He came to another, he says to him: My master
invites thee. He replied to him: My comrade is to be married and I must arrange a
feast, I shall not be able to come— I beg to be excused from the banquet. He went to
another, he says to him: My master invites thee. He replied to him: I have bought a
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villa, I go to receive the rent, I shall not be able to come— I beg to be excused. The
slave came, he said to his master: Those whom thou have invited to the banquet
have excused themselves. The master said to his slave: Go out to the roads, bring
those whom thou shall find so that they may feast. (multiple asyndeta; =Lk 14:16-23)
64b. (And he says:) Tradesmen and merchants shall not enter the places of my
Father. (Ezek 27-28, Zeph 1:11, Zech 14:21, Jn 2:13-16, Rev/Ap 18:11-20)
65. He says: A kindº person had a vineyard. He gave it out to tenants so that they
would work it and he would receive its fruit from them. He sent his slave so that the
tenants would give to him the fruit of the vineyard. They seized his slave, they beat
him— a little longer and they would have killed him. The slave went, he told it to his
master. His master said: Perhaps [they] did not recognize [him]. He sent another
slave— the tenants beat him also. Then the owner sent his son. He said: Perhaps
they will respect my son. Since those tenants knew that he was the heir of the
vineyard, they seized him, they killed him. Whoever has ears, let him hear! (multiple
asyndeta; =Mk 12:1-8)
66. Yeshúa says: Show me the stone which the builders have rejected— it is the
cornerstone. (Isa 28:16, =Ps 118:22 → Mt 21:42)
67. Yeshúa says: Whoever knows everything but himself, lacks everything. (Th 3)
68. Yeshúa says: Blest be you when you are hated and persecuted and find no place
there where you have been persecuted. (Mt 5:10-12)
69a. Yeshúa says: Blest be those who have been persecuted in their heart— these
are they who have recognized the Father in truth. (ibid.)
69b. (Yeshúa says:) Blest be the hungry, for the stomach of him who desires shall be
filled. (Mt 5:6)
70. Yeshúa says: When you bring forth that which is within you, this that you have
shall save you. If you do not have that within you, this which you do not have within
you will kill you. (Lk 11:41!)
71. Yeshúa says: I shall destroy [this] house, and no one will be able to [re]build it.
(Mk 14:58, Jn 2:19)
72. [Someone says] to him: Tell my brothers to divide the possessions of my father
with me. || He says to him: Oh man, who made me a divider? || He turned to his
Disciples,¹ he says to them: I'm not a divider, am I? (¹asyndeton; Lk 12:13-14)
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73. Yeshúa says: The harvest is indeed plentiful, but the workers are few. Yet
beseech the Lord that he send workers into the harvest. (=Mt 9:37-38)
74. He says: Lord, there are many around the reservoir, yet no one in the reservoir.
75. Yeshúa says: There are many standing at the door, but the solitary are those
who shall enter the Bridal-Chamberº. (Mt 25:10, Th 16, 49)
76. Yeshúa says: The Sovereignty of the Father is like a merchant possessing a
fortune, who found a pearl. That merchant was shrewd— he sold the fortune, he
bought the one pearl for himself. You yourselves, seek for [the treasure of his face],
which perishes not, which endures— the place where no moth comes near to devour
nor worm ravages. (multiple asyndeta; Ps 11:7, 17:15, =Mt 6:19-20, =13:44-46, =Lk
12:33)
77. Yeshúa says: I-Am the Light who is above them all, I-Am the Allº. All came
forth from me and all return to me. Cleave wood,¹there am I. Lift up the stone and
there you shall find me. (¹asyndeton; Jn 8:12, Th 30 note; thus Victor Hugo, Les
Misérables: 'All comes from light, and all returns to it')
78. Yeshúa says: Why did you come out to the wilderness— to see a reed shaken by
the wind? And to see a person dressed in plush garments? [Behold, your] rulers and
your dignitaries are those who are clad in plush garments, and they shall not be able
to recognize the truth. (=Mt 11:7-8)
79. A woman from the multitude says to him: Blest be the womb which bore thee,
and the breasts which nursed thee! || He says to [her]: Blest be those who have heard
the meaningº of the Father and have kept it in truth. For there shall be days when
you will say: Blest be the womb which has not conceived and the breasts which have
not nursed. (Lk 1:42, 23:29, =11:27-28)
80. Yeshúa says: Whoever has recognized the system has found the body— and
whoever has found the body, of him the system is not worthy. (Th 56)
81. Yeshúa says: Let whoever is enriched become sovereign, and let whoever has
power renounce it.
82. Yeshúa says: Whoever is close to me is close to the fire, and whoever is far from
me is far from the Sovereignty.
83. Yeshúa says: The images are manifest to mankind, and the Light which is
within them is hidden. (Th 19) He shall reveal himself in the imagery of the Light of
the Father— and (yet) his image is concealed by his Light. (thus Victor Hugo, Les
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Misérables: 'God is behind all things, but all things hide God'; Ps 104:2!)
84. Yeshúa says: When you see your reflection, you rejoice. Yet when you perceive
your images which have come into being in your presence— which neither die nor
representº— to what extent will they depend upon you? (this is the epistemological
[and thus ontological] hinge of the entire text; see Ps 139:16, Prov 20:24, Jn 5:19, Th 19,
and 'Angel and Image', below)
85. Yeshúa says: Adam came into existence from a great power and a great wealth,
and yet he did not become worthy of you. For if he had been worthy, [he would] not
[have tasted] death. (Th 1)
86. Yeshúa says: [The foxes have their dens] and the birds have [their] nests, yet the
Son of Mankind has no place to lay his head for rest. (Dan 7:13-14, =Mt 8:20)
87. Yeshúa says: Wretched be the body which depends upon (another) body, and
wretched be the soul which depends upon their being together.
88. Yeshúa says: The angels and the oracles shall come to you, and they shall
bestow upon you what is yours. And you yourselves, give to them what is in your
hands, and say among yourselves: On what day will they come to receive what is
theirs? (Rev/Ap 21:17!)
89. Yeshúa says: Why do you wash the outside of the chalice? Do you not mind that
He who creates the inside is also He who creates the outside? (Lk 11:39-41)
90. Yeshúa says: Come unto me, for my yogaº is naturalº and my lordship is
gentle— and you shall find repose for yourselves. (Mt 11:28-30, Th 60)
91. They say to him: Tell us who thou are, so that we may believe in thee. || He says
to them: You scrutinize the face of the sky and of the earth— yet you do not
recognize Him who is facing you, and you do not know to inquire of Him at this
moment. (Th 5, 52, 76, 84, =Lk 12:56)
92. Yeshúa says: Seek and you shall find. But those things which you asked me in
those days, I did not tell you then. Now I wish to tell them, and you do not inquire
about them. (=Mt 7:7-8)
93. (Yeshúa says:) Give not what is sacred to the dogs, lest they throw it on the
dungheap. Cast not the pearls to the swine, lest they cause it to become [...]. (=Mt
7:6)
94. Yeshúa [says:] Whoever seeks shall find. [And whoever knocks,] it shall be
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opened to him. (=Mt 7:8)
95. [Yeshúa says:] If you have copper-coins,¹do not lend at interest— but rather
give [them] to those from whom you will not be repaid. (Lk 6:30-36; ¹here in the
bound codex there is a single sheet blank on both sides)
96. Yeshúa [says]: The Sovereignty of the Father is like [a] woman,¹ she has taken a
little yeast,¹ she [has hidden] it in dough,¹she produced large loaves of it. Whoever
has ears, let him hear! (¹asyndeta; =Mt 13:33)
97. Yeshúa says: The Sovereignty of the [Father] is like a woman who was carrying
a jar full of grain. While she was walking [on a] distant road, the handle of the jar
broke, the grain streamed out behind her onto the road. She did not know it, she
had noticed no accident. When she arrived in her house, she set the jar down— she
found it empty. (multiple asyndeta)
98. Yeshúa says: The Sovereignty of the Father is like a person who wishes to slay a
prominent man. He drew forth his sword in his house,¹ he thrust it into the wall in
order to ascertain whether his hand would prevail. Then he slew the prominent
man. (¹asyndeton; Rev/Ap 1:16, 2:16!)
99. His Disciples say to him: Thy brethren and thy mother are standing outside. ||
He says to them: Those here who practice the desires of my Father— these are my
Brethren and my Mother. It is they who shall enter the Sovereignty of my Father.
(Th 15, =Mt 3:31-35)
100. They show Yeshúa a gold-coin, and they say to him: The agents of Caesar
extort tribute from us. || He says to them: Give the things of Caesar to Caesar, give
the things of God to God, and give to me what is mine. (Rev/Ap 13:18 ← I-Ki
10:14?!— an extraordinary gematria, indicating 666 as a monetary symbol; =Mt 22:16-
21, Th 64b)
101. (Yeshúa says:) Whoever does not hate his father and his mother in my way,
shall not be able to become a Disciple to me. And whoever does [not] love his
[Father] and his Mother in my way, shall not be able to become a Disciple to me.
For my mother [boreº me]¹, yet [my] true² [Mother] gave me the life. (¹the
reconstruction of this phrase in the papyrus; ²m.me = 'of truth' [if me is feminine] or 'of
love' [if it is masculine]— here undetermined, as there is no definite article; Jn 2:4, Th
15, 79, 99, =Lk 14:26; see 'The Female Spirit' & 'Theogenesis', below; cp. Odes of St.
Solomon 35:6— 'I was carried like a child by its mother')
102. Yeshúa says: Woe unto them, the clergy— for they are like a dog sleeping in
the manger of oxen. For neither does he eat, nor does he allow the oxen to eat. (Th
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39; The Fables of Aesopº)
103. Yeshúa says: Blest be the person who knows in [which] part the bandits may
invade, so that he shall arise and collect his [things] and gird up his loins before they
enter. (=Lk 12:35 & 39)
104. They say [to him:] Come, let us pray today and let us fast. || Yeshúa says:
Which then is the transgression that I have committed, or in what have I been
vanquished? But when the Bridegroom comes forth from the Bridal-Chamber, then
let them fast and let them pray. (Mk 2:19-20, Th 14)
105. Yeshúa says: Whoever acknowledges father and mother, shall be called the son
of a harlot. (Mt 23:8-9, Lk 14:26, Jn 8:41, Th 101, 'Theogenesis', below)
106. Yeshúa says: When you make the two one¹, you shall become Sons of
Mankind²— and when you say to the mountain: Be moved!, it shall be moved. (¹Th
22; ²Dan 7:13-14, Th 86)
107. Yeshúa says: The Sovereignty is like a shepherd who has 100 sheep. One of
them went astray, which was the largest. He left the 99, he sought for the one until
he found it. Having wearied himself, he said to that sheep: I desire thee more than
99. (Ezek 34:15-16, =Lk 15:3-6)
108. Yeshúa says: Whoever drinks from my mouth shall become like me. I myself
shall become him, and the secrets shall be manifest to him. (Lk 6:40, Jn 4:7-15, 7:37)
109. Yeshúa says: The Sovereignty is like a person who has a treasure [hidden] in
his field without knowing it. And [after] he died, he bequeathed it to his [son. The]
son did not know (about it) , he accepted that field, he sold [it]. And he came who
purchased it— he plowed it, [he found] the treasure. He began to lend money at
interest to whomever he wishes. (multiple asyndeta; The Fables of Aesop, Mt 13:44)
110. Yeshúa says: Whoever has found the system and been enriched, let him
renounce the system. (Th 81)
111. Yeshúa says: The sky and the earth shall be rolled up in your presence. And he
who lives from within the Living-One shall see neither death [nor fear]— for
Yeshúa says: Whoever finds himself, of him the world is not worthy. (Isa 34:4, Lk
21:33, Rev/Ap 6:14)
112. Yeshúa says: Woe to the flesh which depends upon the soul, woe to the soul
which depends upon the flesh. (asyndeton; Th 87)
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113. His Disciples say to him: When will the Sovereignty come? || (Yeshúa says:) It
shall not come by expectation. They will not say: Behold here! or: Behold there! But
the Sovereignty of the Father is spread upon the earth, and humans do not perceive
it. (Lk 17:20-21, Th 51; thus Henry David Thoreau, Walden : 'Heaven is under our feet as
well as over our heads')
114. Shimon Kefa says to them: Let Mariam depart from among us, for women are
not worthy of the life. || Yeshúa says: Behold, I shall inspireº her so that I make her
male, in order that she herself shall become a living spirit like you males. For every
female who becomes male shall enter the Sovereignty of the Heavens. (Gen 3:16, Th
22; thus Clement of Alexandria, Stromata VI.12: 'Souls are neither male nor female,
when they no longer marry nor are given in marriage [Lk 14:34-36]; and is not woman
translated into man, when she is become equally unfeminine, and manly, and perfect?')
The Gospel according to Thomas

I have changed nothing and I also have the Coptic version of Judas Mary and Thomas but unless you can translate it dont bother to ask me for it .
If you can then I will send you a copy and you can tell me how good the translation is

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PostMon Sep 19, 2011 3:36 pm » by Otoel


This are all lies created to discourage the faithful.
They were made up.
evidence of what,otoel? that you're fucking certifiably insane? you watch a children's show,and analyze it,for hours then in your spare time,you give distorted scripture studies for a bunch of losers on the interweb.-Boon

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PostMon Sep 19, 2011 3:53 pm » by Edgarrothstein


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PostMon Sep 19, 2011 4:10 pm » by Lahlaos


I have read this and am reading it again may I suggest reading the Apocalypse of Adam, it collaborates this 13 generations and seeds. Very good post. Thankyou

It is an ancient document and was actually endorsed by the national geographic group
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PostMon Sep 19, 2011 4:13 pm » by Boondox681


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PostMon Sep 19, 2011 4:16 pm » by Edgarrothstein


lahlaos wrote:I have read this and am reading it again may I suggest reading the Apocalypse of Adam, it collaborates this 13 generations and seeds. Very good post. Thankyou

It is an ancient document and was actually endorsed by the national geographic group


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PostMon Sep 19, 2011 4:22 pm » by Lahlaos


I love them, all these little books, and ill tell you why, they speak sense, they speak sense for BC/ low-AD civilizations, they are TRULY scientific in there presentation and analysis, I take my hat off to the people who wrote them and witnessed these magnificent events. it saddens me how far we have drifted from ACTUAL intellect and wisdom.

Of course its not everyones cup of tea, if everyone was into it then everything written in it would be false but so far you non-believers just make it more believable lol. Because the words say so, I do notice however that the missing lines and words ALWAYS seem to be really important parts of the document as if....someone....deleted them.....so we can not actually know the truth for 100%
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PostMon Sep 19, 2011 4:29 pm » by Earthangel2012


the Bible does not even speak of this... Stop trying to cause people to go Astray..

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