The Lunacy of Gun Control - Get Schooled by an Immigrant

Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:50 pm » by **Phaeton**

"I would like to note that the State.. is not the government, the State, is The People."

I absolutely love this guy.

Hes more American than ~95% of the 'native Americans'.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:30 am » by **Iwanci**

I don't think the question is about the elimination of guns,, it is more about controlling the carnage as much as possible 'when' someone decides it is time for people to pay.

I agree totally that there are underlying issues causing much of what is going on, and none of them have anything to do with guns...the gun is simply the tool used to vent... the bigger the anger the bigger the damage someone is willing to inflict.. and when there are 'tools' readily available, then the outcome is almost certain.

Are there any laws preventing me from owning a fighter plane? a tank? a bomb? I mean, they are all useless metal objects aren't they?

Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:56 pm » by **Phaeton**

What really gets to me, besides the absolute overkill of inconsistencies and unanswered questions related to these schoolshootings, is the fact that in 90%+ of these incidents psycho- active medication is involved.

Which would actually be a logical 'target' instead of guns. We dont see Obama trying to push out some tears proclaiming his stance against this 'lets drug up our kids like there's no tomorrow' trend though do we..

One would almost think jabbing these - damn near mandatory - drugs down the throats of our children is part of the constitutional set of rights.

In any case, proclaiming that banning [semi] automatic rifles will change one iota of this phenomena is ab so lutely ludicrous.

Crazy talk. It wouldnt be misplaced as the very definition to the word 'crazy' in the dictionary.

Then again, a lot of things these days would fit nicely in that category. Like all those fools who think it will all somehow change when the person they 'voted' for gets into office. Even if they have been smacked in the face by reality 20 times, they will still vote the 21st time..

Hoping it will all be better, this time.

Change!

Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:25 am » by **Iwanci**

Phaeton, as much as it pains me to say this... I agree with you... well said :flop:

The gun control issue is a side line distraction from what is really happening...

In your opinion do the elected world leaders know what is going on or are they just puppets, themselves being just as manipulated as we are? In which case, do we blame them?

Here in Australia the voting is mandatory, we don't vote we pay fines... which is ludicrous as most people cast donkey votes.. not only that, we vote for an representative and not directly for the PM (unless we live in their elecorate), most people do not know what their representative stands for, they just vote for the party, we also MUST vote in a cascading order of preference, so, voting for the party is not enough, for our vote to be valid we must vote from 1 - 7 our prefered representative, now, almost NO one knows who all the representatives are or what they stand for, but if you don't include the preferences the vote is not counted.

So.. what a lovely fuck up our voting system is here in Australia... Compulsory voting on people you don't know or parties you don't understand... on a positive note, the SEX party is gaining momentum..

I don't know phaeton, it seems the lunatics are running the asylum.

Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:10 am » by **Phaeton**

Iwanci wrote:Phaeton, as much as it pains me to say this... I agree with you... well said

The gun control issue is a side line distraction from what is really happening...

In your opinion do the elected world leaders know what is going on or are they just puppets, themselves being just as manipulated as we are? In which case, do we blame them?

Here in Australia the voting is mandatory, we don't vote we pay fines... which is ludicrous as most people cast donkey votes.. not only that, we vote for an representative and not directly for the PM (unless we live in their elecorate), most people do not know what their representative stands for, they just vote for the party, we also MUST vote in a cascading order of preference, so, voting for the party is not enough, for our vote to be valid we must vote from 1 - 7 our prefered representative, now, almost NO one knows who all the representatives are or what they stand for, but if you don't include the preferences the vote is not counted.

So.. what a lovely fuck up our voting system is here in Australia... Compulsory voting on people you don't know or parties you don't understand... on a positive note, the SEX party is gaining momentum..

I don't know phaeton, it seems the lunatics are running the asylum.

Thats some 1984 sh* right there. Unbelievable.

Probably where were all heading though.. My own nation is going down the drain at break- neck speed, in every way possible.

I do think the political 'leadership' knows enough to put them behind bars for the rest of their lives, in any normal society, yes. But they dont know enough to not do what they do.

Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:23 am » by **Phaeton**

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"My excellent colleagues have forgotten these bitter lessons of history. The prospect of tyranny may not grab the headlines the way vivid stories of gun crime routinely do. But few saw the Third Reich coming until it was too late.
The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed ... However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once …

Fortunately, the Framers were wise enough to entrench the right of the people to keep and bear arms within our constitutional structure. The purpose and importance of that right was still fresh in their minds, and they spelled it out clearly so it would not be forgotten. Despite the panel's mighty struggle to erase these words, they remain, and the people themselves can read what they say plainly enough:

'A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed'."

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Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:26 pm » by **Perry LaGuardia**

Things may have ended differently if we didn't have gun control in the UK?

Birmingham Terror Charge Teen Pleads Guilty

A teenage boy has admitted possessing explosive chemicals and bomb-making books and diagrams.

The 16-year-old, who cannot be named for legal reasons, pleaded guilty to two terror charges and another offence at a hearing at Birmingham Magistrates' Court.

He admitted possessing explosive substances and a host of literature including a book on how to make the explosive Semtex.

The court heard he had planned to carry out a massacre of fellow pupils at his school, and that detailed plans of his classroom were found at his home.

The boy, who was arrested at his home in Northamptonshire, in February last year, admitted possessing explosive substances, namely sulphur powder and potassium nitrate, between January 1 2012 and February 26 2012.

He also admitted possession of numerous books and manuals, of a kind likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism between October 1 2011 and February 26 2012 contrary to Section 58(1)(b) of the Terrorism Act 2000.

The texts in his possession included; The Terrorist Handbook; The Black Book Companion: State-Of-The-Art Improvised Munitions; CIA Explosives For Sabotage Manual; Handbook of Chemical and Biological Warfare Agents; Home Explosives Workshop; Home-made Semtex; Home-made C4 - A Recipe For Survival and Improved Landmines - Their Employment And Destructive Capabilities.

The list of manuals also featured; The Department of the Army's Improvised Munitions Handbook; Improvised Munitions Black Book; Improvised Radio Detonation Techniques; Improvised Weapons of the American Underground; Incendiaries - Advanced Improvised Explosives; Kitchen Improvised Fertilizer Explosives; Ragnar's Detonators; An Anarchist Cookbook - Recipes For Disaster; The Anarchist's Cookbook and Department of the Army Manual - Unconventional Warfare Devices and Techniques - Incendiaries.

He also admitted possession of a quantity of prohibited images of children in Northamptonshire, on February 26, 2012.

Since his arrest he has been detained under the Mental Health Act in secure accommodation in the West Midlands area, said Mark Topping, prosecuting.