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 Post subject: Re: The most compelling evidence that Apollo mission was faked
PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 9:37 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: The most compelling evidence that Apollo mission was faked
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:09 am 
pauldamo wrote:
every time these claims are posted on ats,i feel so downhearted,its so embarrassing for this site,its been done over and over,and it seems the governments plan to dumb down the education has worked,all the facts these people use are just from bad science or ignorance of facts,yes they have high res pictures of the Apollo landing site.this subject just isn't worth any more energy but i was so surprised by all of the posts from people thinking it didn't happen.


Really could you show me these HIGH RES Shots of the Apollo Moon landing?


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 Post subject: Re: The most compelling evidence that Apollo mission was faked
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:27 am 
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You can clearly see the landing sites with my home telescope. We can spend hours discussing color tints on photographs, earth position and all this jazz... but when its all said and done, I walk out to my backyard, fire up the tracking software for my telescope and low and behold... landing sites. How do you reconcile that?


Dude Bullshit, There is absolutely no way that you can decipher something that small through the layers of atmosphere, and there is no lense (Unless you are tax payer funded) on a telescope that a civilian can buy that lets you see that magnified and high resolution.

if you can't produce a picture I would love to see a link of the telescope you have, I am somewhat of a Telescope guy myself and would love to see this mighty telescope of yours.


Note: if this guy does produce a picture of the Apollo landing site I will apologize and am calling the Nobel Committee to get him a peace prize.


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 Post subject: Re: The most compelling evidence that Apollo mission was faked
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:34 am 
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I had kind of always placed you in the apollo believers corner, it is refreshing to see you share reservations as i do.


i am in the believer camp though.

We went.
We left stuff there.

We ALSO...
(key word..'also')

...made studio shots..

(i love the kubrick angle..got no idea though)
and there is a mix of both (legit and faked pics) running around out there.

A great many of them dont violate any prinicples whatsoever,
supporting the real mission theory.

But the adition of the studio "Hero Shots" as theyre called (for a reason) is the PERFECT logical explanation which doesnt PRECLUDE the real missions...

Fits right in with the propaganda needs..they didnt expect to be having to pass muster of hack analysts and conspiracy people? No..they just had to show the soviets some damn good images.

They did.

Mission accomplished.


and lol @ the dude saying he can see the sites with his telescope..

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 Post subject: Re: The most compelling evidence that Apollo mission was faked
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:58 am 
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and lol @ the dude saying he can see the sites with his telescope..

Indeed.
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 Post subject: Re: The most compelling evidence that Apollo mission was faked
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:15 am 
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This photo from LRO (Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter) of the Apollo 12 landing site is the most compelling evidence yet that we did land on the moon.

Intrepid landed in the Ocean of Storms at 3 degrees, 11 hours, 51 minutes south, and 23 degrees, 23 minutes, and 7.5 seconds west. Landing was about 120 feet northeast of Head Crater, and about 535 feet northwest from where Surveyor III stood in its crater. Apollo 12 touched down approximately 950 miles west of where Apollo 11 had landed.

Three hours after the landing and before the first extravehicular activity or, EVA, began. Richard Gordon, orbiting 69 miles up in the Yankee Clipper, was able to see both the Intrepid and Surveyor through the use of a 28-power sextant telescope. Conrad opened Intrepid's hatch at 115 hours, 10 minutes into the mission to begin the first lunar EVA for the Apollo 12 crew. In their first lunar exploration, Conrad spent three hours, 39 minutes outside Intrepid, and Bean logged two hours, 58 minutes on the lurain. During this EVA, Conrad collected lunar surface samples and deployed both the S-band communication antenna and the solar wind experiment. Bean was assigned to mount the TV camera on a tripod. In the process of doing so, it was inadvertently pointed into the sun and ceased to function. The ALSEP instrumentation and SNAP-27 RTG were deployed within an arc of 600 to 700 feet of the LM. The ALSEP functioned satisfactorily, except for two items in the package, and was expected to yield data for up to two years. Deployment of the ALSEP took about an hour to complete. Throughout this first EVA, Conrad and Bean also took photographs of the experiment equipment, the spacecraft, the lurain and of themselves. Before entering the Intrepid, Bean took a 16-inch-deep core sample of the lunar surface and was followed back into the LM by Conrad. The first EVA ended at 119 hours, five minutes into the mission. The crew then ate, recharged their backpacks, prepared for the second EVA the following day, and slept for about five hours.

On Nov. 20, an hour and a half earlier than planned, the crew began the second EVA. Conrad left the Intrepid some 131 hours, 28 minutes into the mission. The second EVA included the collection of 70 pounds of rock and dirt samples, the retrieval of 10 to 15 pounds of randomly selected selenological samples, and further probing of two areas to retrieve lunar material from depths up to 32 inches below the surface. The crew retrieved the TV camera and stored it in the LM for return to Earth. The most important part of this second EVA was a 5,200-foot traverse of the lurain, ranging up to 1,300 feet from Intrepid. Walking northwest to the site of the ALSEP deployment, Conrad and Bean then turned south to perform a selenological rock survey. They skirted the rim of Head Crater, walked further south past Bench Crater, west around Sharp Crater, and back east past Bench Crater again, south of Halo Crater. Eventually they turned northeast, entering the 650-foot-wide Surveyor Crater to retrieve parts of Surveyor III, which was perched some 150 feet from the edge at the southern quadrant.


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 Post subject: Re: The most compelling evidence that Apollo mission was faked
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:24 am 
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PHOTO FROM LUNAR ORBITER

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http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/lunar ... 97_med.jpg


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 Post subject: Re: The most compelling evidence that Apollo mission was faked
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PHOTOS FROM LUNAR ORBITER 2

source image: [please check for yourself, turning the images to their correct positions]
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/lunar ... 18_med.jpg
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/lunar ... 07_med.jpg
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/lunar ... 15_med.jpg

ROMAN AND EGYPTIAN IMAGES?

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FROM A COMIC BOOK?
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YOU DON'T SEE ANYTHING? NOW SEE INSIDE THE SQUARE...
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REMEMBER SOME COMIC BOOK?
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MAY BE SOME FACES?
YOU DON'T SEE ANYTHING? LOOK INSIDE THE CIRCLE
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NOW MORE CLEARLY
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 Post subject: Re: The most compelling evidence that Apollo mission was faked
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:19 pm 
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ironshroom wrote:
if you're talking about that super saturated picture of the moon, you might want to think again, if not i apologize.


If that was directed at me, I was referring to Apollo 13. Jim Lovell said in response to mission control when asked "what does the old Moon look like from 60 miles" his response "Grey, no color looks like plaster of paris".. Clearly this is NOT the case from what we know about the moon today. See the following as example among others (my personal favorite)

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 Post subject: Re: The most compelling evidence that Apollo mission was faked
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:29 pm 
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But that is a fake color map, hand applied by Escamilla.
That is such an incorrectly applied technique.
His painting process changes the luminosity mapping..(light and dark areas)
He would need the spectrographic analysis (color wise and color temperature wise) of EACH AND EVERY single element (chemical) seen in the soils to accurately render a color map. Thats not what he did.
He took a paintbrush, and useda combination of Blending Modes to arrive at a graphically pleasing color interpretation...

Value wise, it is almost entirely inaccurate. (value being light to dark)

That is not how color mapping works.
You can take a telescope and see what color the moon is.

Serious.
Think about it.

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