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PostSun Mar 09, 2014 7:02 am » by Martintimothy


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Puma Punku: Ancient Alien Technology From 12,000 Years Ago?

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The allegedly 12,000 yrs old block at left from Puma Punku is poured concrete, the cement block middle has indentations for electrical and phone lines, the same block is pictured at right .. it has aquired more weathering in the interval betweem both shots being taken, than it did in the previous 12,000 yrs .. gimme a break!!

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PostSun Mar 09, 2014 7:19 am » by Akashicrebel


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PostSun Mar 09, 2014 7:26 am » by Thebluecanary


It does not look like there has been significant weathering between the two photos. It mostly looks like one is a little closer than the other, and therefore the chipping on the corner looks bigger. (In other words, someone is attempting to manipulate.)

And yeah, in my opinion, those structures look like they were poured. Doesn't mean they aren't old.

It does not seem like anyone is making money off Pumapunku. If anything, they are spending their own money (and trying to fundraise) to get an unbiased assessment of the site done. Or, you know, we could all just keep assuming that savages with copper tools built it, like good sheep. The fact that the site is a legitimate archaeological find, and that the blocks were discovered in situ, isn't something that is questionable. The dating is what they're fighting over, but they didn't have poured concrete technology or phone and electrical lines in the 1500s (standard archaeology's date of the ruins) either.
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PostSun Mar 09, 2014 10:30 am » by Martintimothy


Thebluecanary wrote:It does not look like there has been significant weathering .. one is a little closer than the other.


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Above: Roman concrete from Pozzuoli Bay Italy, composed of mortar formulated from lime, volcanic ash and chunks of volcanic tuff. Carol Hagen photo

The Puma Pinku region is highly vulcanized, there is a type of natural cement that can be made from untreated volcanic gravel .. witness the cement in the ruins of the Colosseum in Rome, made from deposits of similar volcanic material quarried on the slopes of Mount Vesuvius.


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The weathering we mean is the reddish bloom that has appeared on the same poured block in the middle pic, which is from rust forming on the particles of iron in the concrete, which is absent from the earlier pic in the montage at right.


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Concrete dome in the Tempio di Venere e Roma inaugurated by Emperor Hadrian in A.D. 135 .. which surely resembles the blocks at Puma Pinku.

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PostSun Mar 09, 2014 3:49 pm » by Baboogdi


Martin, do you have any construction experience?

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PostSun Mar 09, 2014 4:12 pm » by Domeika


The material is diorite. Pressed (not poured), into shapes and machined in a softened state. Nothing to do with plants or bird poop as some suggest.

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PostSun Mar 09, 2014 6:52 pm » by TorJohnson


Amazing that this age-old enigma has been debunked by a random DTV forum member when it has baffled experts for years.

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PostMon Mar 10, 2014 9:35 pm » by Thebluecanary


I have rocks in the garden with ferrous materials in them. The "rust" effect comes and goes depending on lots of variables. They don't always look the same, and the appearance and disappearance of the rusty spots reveals little about their age. Plus, you're still talking about two pictures of an identical rock from slightly different angles with slightly different lighting, so unless you've stood in front of the actual rock you've really "discovered" nothing.

And yeah, the Romans could make concrete. But there weren't any Romans at Pumapunku that I know of. Dating the site is much more complicated than sitting and speculating on the internet. Get you a Kickstarter going, head on down to the site and do a real archaeological assessment, then get back to us.
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PostMon Mar 10, 2014 11:37 pm » by Mep630


Still does not explain how a tribe of people who are claimed to not have known writing, could build such intricate walls.

The pieces fit together like legos and make a wall much stronger then normal with the 'fancy' cuttings in the blocks.

Mind you that Diorite, which the blocks are made of is a pretty hard material, the only material that can cut it is DIAMONDS!

So these people who could not write, made these intricate blocks, which fit together perfectly, with perfect symmetry, with diamond tipped hand tools... (yea thats believable)

Not to mention, the cuts are perfect straight lines that we could only reproduce with lasers and other very high tech equipment today.

Then there is the weight of these block, which somehow all these ancient people were able to move 10+ ton blocks like it was nothing to them....

oh you debunked it alright there, hows the special Olympics tryouts going??

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PostFri Apr 04, 2014 4:10 am » by donner


Mep630 wrote:Still does not explain how a tribe of people who are claimed to not have known writing, could build such intricate walls.

The pieces fit together like legos and make a wall much stronger then normal with the 'fancy' cuttings in the blocks.

Mind you that Diorite, which the blocks are made of is a pretty hard material, the only material that can cut it is DIAMONDS!

So these people who could not write, made these intricate blocks, which fit together perfectly, with perfect symmetry, with diamond tipped hand tools... (yea thats believable)

Not to mention, the cuts are perfect straight lines that we could only reproduce with lasers and other very high tech equipment today.

Then there is the weight of these block, which somehow all these ancient people were able to move 10+ ton blocks like it was nothing to them....

oh you debunked it alright there, hows the special Olympics tryouts going??


Two big problems with this argument.

Number one, the stones at Pumapunku are NOT diorite, they are andesite and red sandstone. Just because Von Daniken or AE say it does not make it true. Do a little research on the site and you will see this for yourself

Number two, diamond tipped tools are NOT the only thing that can cut diorite. Plenty of ancient civilizations worked with diorite: Egypt, Babylonia, Inca, Maya, etc. Look up 'hammurabi fingertip stele' for a good example. There are many examples from all over the world, hundreds of years apart. Did all of these civilizations have lasers and diamond tipped drills? I think not.


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