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PostThu Dec 22, 2011 8:21 pm » by Abdul14


Rachel died at the Hospital and probably at the hands of a Palestinian doctor who aided the PLO in making Rachel's death into Martyrdom. My bet is that she could have survived if the PLO didn't interfere with the doctors.
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Tehran city council has named a street after an American activist who was crushed to death by an Israeli military bulldozer in the Gaza Strip in 2003, a local newspaper has reported.

The report in the Hamshahri, a daily affiliated with Tehran's authorities, said the council has named the street Rachel Aliene Corrie. It said the sign would be placed in the city centre, but did not say when it would be displayed.

Corrie, a pro-Palestinian activist from Washington, was trying to prevent what she and other campaigners believed was a push by the Israeli military to demolish nearby Palestinian homes. She was 23 at the time of her death.

Iran does not recognise Israel and supports the Palestinians.

The decision marked the first time an Iranian street has been named after a US national since the 1979 Islamic revolution that ousted the pro-west shah Muhammad Reza Pahlavi.

Before the revolution, at least three high streets in the Iranian capital were named after former US presidents: Dwight Eisenhower, John F Kennedy and Franklin Roosevelt.

Iran and the US have not had diplomatic ties since militant students occupied the US embassy in Tehran, holding American diplomats hostage for 444 days from 1979 to 1981.

There are a few streets in the city named after western nationals, including Bobby Sands, a member of the IRA who died on hunger strike in a British prison in 1981, and Edward Brown, a British Orientalist known for his work on Iranian history.

Washington and its allies say Iran is trying to develop nuclear weapons, and have imposed sanctions on the country. Tehran maintains its nuclear programme is for peaceful purposes.

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PostThu Dec 22, 2011 8:32 pm » by Abdul14


tehran never missed an opportunity to glorify martyrs that died in the cause of islam
that ofcourse is a proof that she is no more than a propoganda tool for tham
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PostThu Dec 22, 2011 8:35 pm » by Noentry


abdul14 wrote:tehran never missed an opportunity to glorify martyrs that died in the cause of islam
that ofcourse is a proof that she is no more than a propoganda tool for tham


very true .
But she was killed by the bulldozer. Fact
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PostThu Dec 22, 2011 8:41 pm » by Abdul14


she was killed blocking a bulldozer that was clearing brush that concealed a weapons smuggling tunnel FACT
who the fuck does that ? jumps out of nowhere infront of huge bulldozer like that?

only people with a death wish thats who !
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PostThu Dec 22, 2011 8:43 pm » by Noentry


abdul14 wrote:she was killed blocking a bulldozer that was clearing brush that concealed a weapons smuggling tunnel FACT
who the fuck does that ? jumps out of nowhere infront of huge bulldozer like that?

only people with a death wish thats who !


some one who believes they are protecting children.
at the very least it is manslaughter.


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Rachel Corrie case: Israeli soldier in bulldozer 'did not see her'

Driver of machine that crushed 23-year-old American to death in Gaza in 2003 tells court he only saw her after the incident

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Harriet Sherwood in Haifa
guardian.co.uk, Thursday 21 October 2010 18.49 BST
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Rachel Corrie's parents, Craig and Cynthia Corrie
Rachel Corrie's parents, Craig and Cynthia, stand next to a photograph of their daughter at the start of their civil case against the state of Israel earlier this year. Photograph: Stefan Zaklin/Getty Images

The Israeli soldier at the controls of the bulldozer that crushed the pro-Palestinian activist Rachel Corrie told a court today that the first time he saw her was when fellow protesters were already tending to her dying body in the dirt.

Giving evidence for more than four hours in the civil case brought by Corrie's family against the state of Israel, the former soldier repeatedly insisted that had not seen the 23-year-old American standing in front of his 66-tonne Caterpillar bulldozer before she was fatally hit.

"I didn't see her before the incident," he told the court in Haifa. "I saw people pulling the body out from under the earth."

The soldier, named only as YB, gave evidence from behind a screen after a ruling by the judge for "security reasons". A gagging order was imposed on identifying details, although it was disclosed in court that YB is a 38-year-old Russian immigrant who learned Hebrew after arriving in Israel at the age of 23 and now works for a food processing company.

The Corrie family had requested that they be given dispensation to see YB give evidence, which was refused.

Rachel Corrie was protesting against the demolition by the Israeli military of Palestinian houses in Gaza when she was crushed to death in March 2003. An internal military investigation concluded that no charges should be brought.

YB, who was in communication with his unit command and a second bulldozer on the scene, told the court that he was told through his headphones that he had hit someone. "I reversed … There was this thought that something wasn't right … It looked like I hit someone."

In evidence that frequently contradicted his own earlier affidavits, YB said he reversed the bulldozer 25-30 metres. "After I reversed I saw they took out a body." He was "absolutely certain" Corrie's body was between the bulldozer and a mound of earth he had been ordered to flatten, contradicting earlier evidence given by two other military witnesses.

Asked if anyone from his unit went to the aid of the fatally injured protester, YB said: "No, we weren't allowed to leave [the vehicle]." Asked why he didn't call a military ambulance over his radio, he said: "That's not my level of command."

He recalled being warned that morning that there were civilian protesters in the area, and some might be armed. "Did you see any of them armed?" asked Hussein Abu Hussein, the family's lawyer. "I can't answer that, I don't remember," said YB.

Later Abu Hussein asked: "Did they carry anything that made them look like terrorists?" YB said: "They carried a loudspeaker and a sign."

"Did you suspect they were dangerous?" YB said: "I suspect everyone."

YB said he carried on working even though he knew there were civilians around "because these were our instructions. I'm just a soldier, you just carry out orders … I told the commander there were people around. The instruction was don't stop, keep working. It was not my decision, it was the officers'."

YB had offered no explanations, said Abu Hussein. "You continued driving forward, you pushed the dirt and you buried her. You didn't see anyone. You have no explanation of how [Corrie] was killed."

After the hearing, the lawyer told reporters: "The more we hear the more the impression is that someone tried to whitewash what happened."

Cindy Corrie, Rachel's mother, said she was "glad to get this day behind me". Although the driver was a key witness, she said, "my sense is that there are other people on the ground and in the rear who also have responsibility and were giving orders, and allowed these things to happen to Rachel and continue to happen".

She brought a book of her daughter's writing to court, she said. "I wanted to keep Rachel's humility and compassion for everyone in my heart today, but it was very hard as I did not hear one word of remorse from this witness today. That saddens me."
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PostThu Dec 22, 2011 8:57 pm » by Abdul14


the myth that Corrie was protecting a house and protecting children is part of the paliwood hoax and it couldnt be further from the truth ofcourse

Corrie was standing in a trench where she could not be seen, protecting an entrance to a weapons tunnel." FACT
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PostThu Dec 22, 2011 9:02 pm » by Hawkshot


abdul14 wrote:the myth that Corrie was protecting a house and protecting children is part of the paliwood hoax and it couldnt be further from the truth ofcourse

Corrie was standing in a trench where she could not be seen, protecting an entrance to a weapons tunnel." FACT

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PostThu Dec 22, 2011 9:03 pm » by Noentry


abdul14 wrote:the myth that Corrie was protecting a house and protecting children is part of the paliwood hoax and it couldnt be further from the truth ofcourse

Corrie was standing in a trench where she could not be seen, protecting an entrance to a weapons tunnel." FACT


Really. How do you explain this news article

The family of Rachel Corrie, the US activist killed in Gaza while protesting against house demolitions in 2003, on Monday claimed the Israeli military authorities withheld video evidence during the Corries' civil lawsuit and misled US officials on crucial details.

Craig Corrie, Rachel's father, told a press conference in Jerusalem that the footage from a surveillance camera near the scene of his daughter's death submitted to the court was "incomplete". Additional video material obtained by the family showed Rachel's body in a different spot to the place identified by some military commanders, he said.

He also alleged that the Israeli military had misled US officials on the position of Rachel's body when she was killed.

Rachel, from Olympia, Washington state, was killed while attempting to protect the home of a Palestinian family in the Rafah area of Gaza from being demolished by Israeli troops in March 2003. Her family and other activists who witnessed the incident say she was crushed by an Israeli army bulldozer.

Following Rachel's death the then Israeli prime minister, Ariel Sharon, promised US president George W Bush a "thorough, credible and transparent" investigation.

An internal Israeli military investigation, which was never published nor released to the US government nor the Corries, concluded that the two soldiers who operated the bulldozer had not seen Rachel and that no charges would be brought. The case was closed.

In March last year the Corrie family launched a civil case, accusing the military of either unlawfully or intentionally killing Rachel or of gross negligence. Hearings in the case ended on Sunday and a verdict is due to be delivered next April.

"After more than a year of hearings, we are at this moment in much the same place as we were when they began – up against a wall of Israeli officials determined to protect the state at all costs, including at the expense of truth," said Cindy Corrie, Rachel's mother.

"We came seeking accountability. We demand justice," said Craig Corrie.

The final witness in the case, Colonel Pinhas Zuaretz, told the court in Haifa that Rafah was a war zone in 2003 and "reasonable people would not be there unless they had aims of attacking our forces". Members of the International Solidarity Movement, such as Rachel Corrie, were aiding "Palestinian terrorists", he said.

In arguing that the case should be dismissed, the Israeli government claimed Rachel was responsible for her own death. Both sides have 90 days to submit closing arguments in writing.

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PostThu Dec 22, 2011 9:06 pm » by Flecktarn


so i guess all the journalists murdered is myths also ,,,no governments want the truth to get out so its dressed up in slander and lies ,,,,and the uss liberty was lies also,,???? both governments knew what was going on and normal people paid the price yet again ,,every government has blood on its hands but some more than others.....
the Israel thread is like the god thread ,,,good for a mud slinging argument that just go's round in circles ,,,,,and guy no matter what,, all nations in reality are crap no matter how nationalistic you are ,,,the my country's better than yours crap is why peace WILL never happen :bang;
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