The Secret Memo That Explains Why Obama Can Kill Americans
- Taintedsample

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This is a fucking outrage!!! Where will you be when Obama comes for YOU?
They should have sent in a battalion and dragged Anwar's criminal ass out of terror-ville by the scruff of his taint. I condone nothing this man has done but he as an American citizen a RIGHT TO DUE PROCESS. Not back door assassination.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc ... ns/246004/
Outside the U.S. government, President Obama's order to kill American citizen Anwar al-Awlaki without due process has proved controversial, with experts in law and war reaching different conclusions. Inside the Obama Administration, however, disagreement was apparently absent, or so say anonymous sources quoted by the Washington Post. "The Justice Department wrote a secret memorandum authorizing the lethal targeting of Anwar al-Aulaqi, the American-born radical cleric who was killed by a U.S. drone strike Friday, according to administration officials," the newspaper reported. "The document was produced following a review of the legal issues raised by striking a U.S. citizen and involved senior lawyers from across the administration. There was no dissent about the legality of killing Aulaqi, the officials said."
Isn't that interesting? Months ago, the Obama Administration revealed that it would target al-Awlaki. It even managed to wriggle out of a lawsuit filed by his father to prevent the assassination. But the actual legal reasoning the Department of Justice used to authorize the strike? It's secret. Classified. Information that the public isn't permitted to read, mull over, or challenge.
Why? What justification can there be for President Obama and his lawyers to keep secret what they're asserting is a matter of sound law? This isn't a military secret. It isn't an instance of protecting CIA field assets, or shielding a domestic vulnerability to terrorism from public view. This is an analysis of the power that the Constitution and Congress' post September 11 authorization of military force gives the executive branch. This is a president exploiting official secrecy so that he can claim legal justification for his actions without having to expose his specific reasoning to scrutiny. As the Post put it, "The administration officials refused to disclose the exact legal analysis used to authorize targeting Aulaqi, or how they considered any Fifth Amendment right to due process."
Obama hasn't just set a new precedent about killing Americans without due process. He has done so in a way that deliberately shields from public view the precise nature of the important precedent he has set. It's time for the president who promised to create "a White House that's more transparent and accountable than anything we've seen before" to release the DOJ memo. As David Shipler writes, "The legal questions are far from clearcut, and the country needs to have this difficult discussion." And then there's the fact that "a good many Obama supporters thought that secret legal opinions by the Justice Department -- rationalizing torture and domestic military arrests, for example -- had gone out the door along with the Bush administration," he adds. "But now comes a momentous change in policy with serious implications for the Constitution's restraint on executive power, and Obama refuses to allow his lawyers' arguments to be laid out on the table for the American public to examine." What doesn't he want to get out?
Had enough of this commie dictator's "hope and change" yet? 
They should have sent in a battalion and dragged Anwar's criminal ass out of terror-ville by the scruff of his taint. I condone nothing this man has done but he as an American citizen a RIGHT TO DUE PROCESS. Not back door assassination.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc ... ns/246004/
Outside the U.S. government, President Obama's order to kill American citizen Anwar al-Awlaki without due process has proved controversial, with experts in law and war reaching different conclusions. Inside the Obama Administration, however, disagreement was apparently absent, or so say anonymous sources quoted by the Washington Post. "The Justice Department wrote a secret memorandum authorizing the lethal targeting of Anwar al-Aulaqi, the American-born radical cleric who was killed by a U.S. drone strike Friday, according to administration officials," the newspaper reported. "The document was produced following a review of the legal issues raised by striking a U.S. citizen and involved senior lawyers from across the administration. There was no dissent about the legality of killing Aulaqi, the officials said."
Isn't that interesting? Months ago, the Obama Administration revealed that it would target al-Awlaki. It even managed to wriggle out of a lawsuit filed by his father to prevent the assassination. But the actual legal reasoning the Department of Justice used to authorize the strike? It's secret. Classified. Information that the public isn't permitted to read, mull over, or challenge.
Why? What justification can there be for President Obama and his lawyers to keep secret what they're asserting is a matter of sound law? This isn't a military secret. It isn't an instance of protecting CIA field assets, or shielding a domestic vulnerability to terrorism from public view. This is an analysis of the power that the Constitution and Congress' post September 11 authorization of military force gives the executive branch. This is a president exploiting official secrecy so that he can claim legal justification for his actions without having to expose his specific reasoning to scrutiny. As the Post put it, "The administration officials refused to disclose the exact legal analysis used to authorize targeting Aulaqi, or how they considered any Fifth Amendment right to due process."
Obama hasn't just set a new precedent about killing Americans without due process. He has done so in a way that deliberately shields from public view the precise nature of the important precedent he has set. It's time for the president who promised to create "a White House that's more transparent and accountable than anything we've seen before" to release the DOJ memo. As David Shipler writes, "The legal questions are far from clearcut, and the country needs to have this difficult discussion." And then there's the fact that "a good many Obama supporters thought that secret legal opinions by the Justice Department -- rationalizing torture and domestic military arrests, for example -- had gone out the door along with the Bush administration," he adds. "But now comes a momentous change in policy with serious implications for the Constitution's restraint on executive power, and Obama refuses to allow his lawyers' arguments to be laid out on the table for the American public to examine." What doesn't he want to get out?
Had enough of this commie dictator's "hope and change" yet? 
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Damn, just read this. Thanks for posting.
It's just like Boon has been saying
"what your government does to other today, they will surely do to you tomorrow"
It's a sad day for any kind of law.
It's just like Boon has been saying
"what your government does to other today, they will surely do to you tomorrow"
It's a sad day for any kind of law.
The True Sons of Liberty are alive and well.
Мое сердце, мой спаситель, да будет свет.

Мое сердце, мой спаситель, да будет свет.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
You will note that none of these morons protesting in DC gives a toss .
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muchtyman wrote:[
You will note that none of these morons protesting in DC gives a toss .
Why are they morons?
When Americans are not protesting all we hear from you stupid people in other countries is, "why don't you Americans ever stand up for your rights?"
Now people are and you people call 'em morons?
You people in other countries are nothing but hypocritical flip flopping prissy bitches. Make up your fucking mind and stick with it!!!!!
(Now, you might not have ever said that, so I'm directing this to the people that have)

domdabears wrote:muchtyman wrote:[
You will note that none of these morons protesting in DC gives a toss .
Why are they morons?
When Americans are not protesting all we hear from you stupid people in other countries is, "why don't you Americans ever stand up for your rights?"
Now people are and you people call 'em morons?
You people in other countries are nothing but hypocritical flip flopping prissy bitches. Make up your fucking mind and stick with it!!!!!
(Now, you might not have ever said that, so I'm directing this to the people that have)
ffs ..........read the threads about who are protesting in dc and why !
world-wide-protests-planned-for-october-15th-spread-this-t60220.html
'I,m not American but this sickens me.
This is bad for the future ,for us all.
unlawful Indiscriminate killings of Americans by the government ,sad sad day for freedom
This is bad for the future ,for us all.
unlawful Indiscriminate killings of Americans by the government ,sad sad day for freedom
I am aware it's often a thankless task persuading someone on a forum that they are mistaken. They are often, in the true sense of the word, bigots!
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Disturbing beyond belief!
all this guy aparently did was 'rant on the internet'
what have our Western (rule of law) societies, based on Rights, become?
what have we let it become?

all this guy aparently did was 'rant on the internet'
what have our Western (rule of law) societies, based on Rights, become?
what have we let it become?

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