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PostThu Jun 03, 2010 11:26 am » by Aardvaaks


nihilgeist wrote:
allreadydead wrote:
aardvaaks wrote:Mahala svaha and all. Mahala From the Hebrew for 'tenderness'
allreadydead, you are right, being true to yourself is up there and if you are happy does that mean success?

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Well, I'll let the 'Guru' answer that one! :D

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Money cannot buy you happiness, and happiness cannot buy you money. That might be a wise crack, but I doubt it.


And for myself, think of money like condoms, we really don't want to use it, but we know we must, it gets us what we want, sometimes! - and once you've used it, move on until you need it again - but you can also be very happy without one - sometimes!

Success can bring happiness - if success is what you wanted - I'm an extremely successful old slob and have achieved what I set out to gain - doing sod all, being paid for it, Lazing around in my own time, saying what I think - doing things I enjoy - if that's success then I'm the Richard Branson of the world's idle barstards!!!! :D :flop:

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Money can definitely buy me happiness. It's what comes with having to acquire that money in this world, be it working non-stop all the time or doing unethical or immoral things that weighs a person down. Consider a top executive that has had to put in 14 hour days for the last 30 years of his live to become a millionaire. He has several houses that he never visits, a multitude of cars that he can't even enjoy, a family that barely sees him, etc. etc. Why, because he worked so much to get the money. Its pointless then.


I'd also point out that this preoccupation to acquire money, much more than is actually required and working flat out as your example, would also put your health at severe risk. Consider when this executive eventually retires, his metabolism will slow and often the buzz has gone and depression or ill health follows.

As Groucho put it, 'The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made'.
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PostThu Jun 03, 2010 11:42 am » by Nihilgeist


aardvaaks wrote:I'd also point out that this preoccupation to acquire money, much more than is actually required and working flat out as your example, would also put your health at severe risk. Consider when this executive eventually retires, his metabolism will slow and often the buzz has gone and depression or ill health follows.

As Groucho put it, 'The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made'.


Good point on the health. That reminds me of how doctors always stress getting enough sleep and exercise and all the other bullshit that gets pushed to the side because of work, chores, errands, and doing the things we actually ENJOY doing to relax. It's highly unrealistic to do the things they advise without it being detrimental to your life in another way.

I tried honesty and fair dealing in the automotive tech business. I couldn't make enough money to survive unless I worked faster which meant taking shortcuts I wasn't willing to take or doing work that didnt' need to be done, i.e. something that isn't broken that gets fixed.

But again, circumstances don't matter. I just didn't "envision" it enough to make it happen :roll:
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PostThu Jun 03, 2010 7:13 pm » by Svaha


nihilgeist wrote:Wow, that's awesome. Yet another video that shows that those in power whether abusive or corrupt deserve to be in power, because they made it happen.

I suppose this also justifies the years of slavery as well, because evidently all those people really just wanted to be slaves, or else they would've changed their lives for the better, circumstances be damned.


The sun shines on all, good or bad, so it is for natural laws, they are the same for good and bad people, a good healer can also be a good killer.
People can be compared with an iceberg, only a small part is above the water (conscious), the bigger part is beneath the surface. Yet this unconscious part rules.
There are many belief structures that prevent us from receiving, that prevent us from being great. One of the core beliefs (that is hammered in there by culture) is that there is scarcity, so 'I' have to compete to get what I want because there isn't enough for everybody. That simply is not true, there is abundance, you only have to ask and be willing to receive.
In this money is the same as food, objects, it's energy. In the western world we have to deal with money, to master it.
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PostThu Jun 03, 2010 7:18 pm » by sockpuppet


Money doesn't buy happiness. But it DOES buy options.
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PostThu Jun 03, 2010 9:05 pm » by Svaha


sockpuppet wrote:Money doesn't buy happiness. But it DOES buy options.


Yes that is true (in the modern world)
The pyramid of Maslow shows the hierarchy of needs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27s ... y_of_needs)
To fulfill basic needs you have to have some money.

Circumstances don't matter.
An aboriginal in the desert does not need money, a house .... yet he has to eat / drink and so on, but there as here abundance IS. Now when he/she gets hungry an animal will appear and there is food.
This is because an aboriginal is not influenced by a belief system based on separation.
Originally aboriginese had only one commandment, do what you desire to do.
You're at your best when you do things that you like to do, creative energy flows, that's why the top of the pyramid of Maslow connects with the base.

In our world it is basically the same, when you follow your desire, all that you need is attracted in the same way, all is energy though the form differs.

But I know this seems far fetched for many, so follow your goals but before you start do a check : "Is this good for me and the environment?". If the answer is not a clear yes, I bet there are some unconscious limiting belief patterns, it very well could be that you have moral objections, then just don't do it.
No need to lie or cheat, you can only lie to yourself and by doing so you block a part of your self, less energy to create, to feel good.
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PostFri Jun 04, 2010 1:34 am » by Nervousnjerky


I stopped it @ " An erectness to his carriage. :ohno:
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PostFri Jun 04, 2010 10:02 am » by Svaha


Hahaha lol
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PostFri Jun 04, 2010 10:48 am » by Lighthouse


In our world it is basically the same, when you follow your desire, all that you need is attracted in the same way, all is energy though the form differs.

I agree with you Svaha,
and personally I think following your desire is really the only thing you can,
a lot is being said about "placing an intention", the whole story of the intention experiments,
to me this sounds a bit artificial, I believe following your desire, or heart of you will, leads you 'automatically' to the 'right' path, and creates 'synchronicities' that will 'fulfill' or 'make happen' your desires, dreams, wishes...
It's all about learning to think with your heart rather than with your brain
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PostFri Jun 04, 2010 11:17 am » by Curtjet


I think most of you may have missed the point, you should go back and watch it again!

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PostFri Jun 04, 2010 11:33 am » by Svaha


lighthouse wrote:
In our world it is basically the same, when you follow your desire, all that you need is attracted in the same way, all is energy though the form differs.

I agree with you Svaha,
and personally I think following your desire is really the only thing you can,
a lot is being said about "placing an intention", the whole story of the intention experiments,
to me this sounds a bit artificial, I believe following your desire, or heart of you will, leads you 'automatically' to the 'right' path, and creates 'synchronicities' that will 'fulfill' or 'make happen' your desires, dreams, wishes...
It's all about learning to think with your heart rather than with your brain


True (to me)
At a certain point there is no other option then to follow your heart, it's the surrender to your Self. I think it's the only free choice a person has.

I did research intentions though, intentions are a good path to get rid of karma fast.
This is because intention at the beginning is much of a ego thing. So when you 'set' an intention you will get exactly what you did not want to get, gives an opportunity to practice acceptance of the experience in the moment.
Eventually intention will be cleansed, freed of ego things.
But still there is no power in this alone, life is a feeling.
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