the truth about nibiru (sorry to dissapoint)

Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:20 pm » by **endofall**

by the way you can rattle on about the twisted governments of this world all you like but can you please confine it to a thread about twisted governments,also last time a checked this thread was about nibiru not aliens or corruption. :flop:

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Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:47 pm » by **Kellenpsullivan**

gabriel892 wrote:oh c'mon, Can we give the 2012, Dooms Day, Nibiru, Planet X, Annunaki returning to enslave us, Poles shifitng bullshit a rest? If they planet was going to pass by us by 2012, we would see it by now. Let me give you an example. The Star Sirius can be seen with the naked eye and it's about 8 years away from us(if you travel at the speed of light) which means it is technically alot further from us than that. Now, Nibiru gives off light itself and it also is suppose to be alot bigger than Sirius and it is also suppose to be four years away...yet we don't see it. You know why? Because it isn there. I'm srry to dissapoint you all, but no Annunaki's from Nibiru will be killing us in 2012. I have read all of Zecharia Sitchin's books, but I dont agree with him on that.

The Mayans never "SAID" that 2012 willbe the end of days nor an awakening. Anyone who studies there history and calendar will tell you that the muthafuckers just stopped writing. It had nothing to do with the end of time. Of course you won't see any of this anywhere. All you see on tv is death, destruction, blackness and hatred because that's all you been taught to do. Fear gets ratings and because of that channels like the history and discovery channel that "get off" on showing us a hundred ways in which the universe can kill us, plays 24/7. Not because it's true, but because itgets ratings. Playing off of our fear. Gee that sounds familiar, oh yea that's exactlyhow the government opeartes too. People are not complicated.

Yet because the world is evolving, it's getting harder to suceed, life his harder, harder to make a living, harder to survive and overall it's harder to be happy or content, so people choose to not care, say fuck it and just live for themeselves chasing some abstract illlusionary dream while turning a deaf ear to the needy or they choose to live in fear, trying to repent(whatever the fuck that means), get in the good graces of god and ask for guidance because they have no clue whats wrong with them,but for some reason they arent happy and they feel like the world is coming to an end. There you go, the world is divided into to different ppl(over-simplification): The selfish and the fearful. Family doesnt exist anymore, True love doesnt exist anymore, because of the fast paced, money worshipping whores that we have become. Nibiru isnt going to destroy us, we will!

People feel the tension in the air because we are all connected, so they hope for a change and that's good. They feel the heignted pain, misery, lonliness and hatred that exist in the world. People are waking up, but the one thing they need to realize is that if they dont try to make a difference no one will. Fuck Hope! Do Something about it! Stop waiting on a savior or miracle, be the miracle and I promise you THIS WORLD WILL NOT COME TO AN END,simply because we will no longer believe it. Fear of the world ending is a by-product of feeling hopeless and lonliness. The feeling of, just wanting to start over. There is a saying: Reality is fiction many agree to believe.

As long as we fear death and destruction the station will play it because fear keeps people in line and we are easier to manipulate. we are more gullable. Our minds and beliefs shape the world around us, not some external inevitable doomsday bedtime story.

There is no such thing as fact and "although time is an illusion the futurecan always be changed"(Edgar Cayce). So dont tell me about Armageddon or Meteor Strikes, because I know that those beliefs didnt hold merit until we startedto fear it. Control your fear, stand up for your beliefs, care for one another and see which way that muthafucker goes. See you in 2013, you paranoid fear spreading maniacs(not yall). I hope they know they are doing the NWO a favor.

Bottomline: Everyone of those things I mentioned at the top are possible, because anything is possible, but nothing is set in stone, Unless the fearful fools continue to believe it.

just to let you know, nibiru is a planet orbiting around a brown dwarf star just a little bigger than jupiter. sirius is much much bigger than a brown dwarf and gives off much more light. as the nibiru system approaches the sun, it will accelerate as it gets closer. even that it is four years out it is still very far out(unless you believe the zetas who quote that it is already on the backside of the sun coming around through the other way). A brown star is a very dim object that you can only see in infrared unless it is very close. Gabriel892, I do however hope you are right and this is all bullshit!

Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:13 pm » by **endofall**

the trouble is theres so many conflicting stories about this it's hard to know which one if any is the real one.
has anyone got any more possible evidence of it's exsistence?

Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:01 pm » by **Axiomgate**

Disclosurists,

We at the Axiom have been looking into the interpritations made by Stitchin, and matching them with the Mayan theory and those of many others.

We feel we have a closer idea of truth, an Altentaive if you like.

Nibiru or Planet X, isn't another Astral body, but the EARTH.

Why do we say this ?

For a Planet to have such a wide eplitical orbit to our Sun doesn't hold too much scientific weight, and on an Orbit of that size any creatures upon said planet would have to deal with many strains upon their race... How would life start on such a hostile orbit ?

The Mayan called the Galactic Centre/Equator the Dark rift... They state Planet X is the planet of the crossing, well the Earth crosses the Galactic centre/equator in 2012 and finishes around 2015... So on that notion the Earth could be the planet of the crossing/Nibiru.

What about the Anunnaki ?

Those that came from the Sky... Many people have reported seeing UFO's coming from our Sea, or from the polar regions. Richard E Byrd claimed to have ventured into a land within our own and seen such craft. Reports like the Green Children of Woolpit in England, the race of the Naga, all beings from within our own world.

(Green Children link:- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_children_of_Woolpit)

It could be that this race within our world or a Dimension that runs along side ours upon our own planet during times of great magentic shift rise to our aid.

So why does the Mayan Calandar end ?

It could be that there is to be a large Pole shift, and mapping the Stars the way the Mayan did wouldn't work from 2012 onwards.

Become an Axiomist, look into and debate the Alternative truth.

The Axiom
http://www.axiom.co.nr

Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:15 pm » by **Warngen**

look, the mayans never based their calendar on stars. they based it changes in consciousness. the post below may answer plenty of questions. PLEASE WATCH THIS ENTIRE VIDEO.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=AbgHyrmgRZM

Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:48 pm » by **Axiomgate**

warngen,

Your link is the opinion of one man, the Alternative of one person.

The Mayan tablets clearly depict the stars, and the planets, there Calandar, as you may have seen is stone disc of sorts.

All though Bob Dean, as nice a guy as he is, the woman interviewing him is that annoying it makes viewing until the end fairly hard going. We will however try our best as every Alternative truth shouild be met with a clear and open mind.

Thanks for sharing.

The Axiom

Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:24 pm » by **Dervishmadwhirl**

endofall wrote:came across this article while doing a little nibiru research.
sorry all you nibiru belivers but it's another false prophecy

click this link
http://www.rense.com/ufo5/nib2000.htm

yes lenny it's bulls**t
as you will gather from this link it's all been said before....our sell by date of 2003 has been and gone.
friday afternoons and discussing prophecys of doom will never be the same....at least until the next one that comes up WOOT

Sorry mate, but the fact that it appears this man thought it would come in 2003, doesnt subtract any reality from the fact that there might be a planet X coursing our way; this kin dof 'evidence ' is ofcourse so shoddy that it is surely not a serious attempt at debunking the existence of Nibiru.
Sadly enough, most debunkers of anything have preciously little arguments, and the arguments they have, are based upon the wish they have of some things not happening; so they kind of see only what they wish to see.
Do understand, please, that almost everyone who believes that there MIGHT be a Planet X is hoping that it doesnt exist or at least will not reach this planet.
However, judging by the amount of historical data and the astrnomical data, the possubility of it's existence would be idiotic to deny. Better to have falsely assumed something, than to totally disregard a possible threat to our Planet.
It is kinda naive to disallow anything you dont wish to believe...Childish even.

Thu Oct 23, 2008 4:53 pm » by **endofall**

dervish perhaps you should read ALL the posts before replying.
YES at the time i thought 'ok this is a load of bullshit' that much i will admit .....HOWEVER upon closer inspection and more research i have again changed my mind about it and currently stand in the region of maybe - maybe not,so please before you make such blatently uninformed replys take a moment to read all other posts :flop:

Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:51 am » by **endofall**

by the way dervish when you find this 'historical' data and present it to me to feast my eyes upon then you can revel in the glory of being right - until then im reserving some very big laughs in your face

Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:00 am » by **Warngen**

axiomgate,

if you listend carefully to bod deans interview, you will find out that he HAS DONE what you are trying to do, which is collect different views and perspectives on the same topic, hoping to get a solid answer. if you look at his rank and placement, you will know that this is a man whose word to take seriously. For example, when you need a weather forecast, who do you ask: a meteorologist, or a biologist? This is the same concept regarding bob dean. by the way, you really cant base truths on "popular vote" or "popular opinion" because we all know what happend with that in 2000.