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PostSat Nov 07, 2009 8:38 pm » by Muchtyman


Hi Guys . I've been following the story about Joseph Moshe on the alternate News sites and recently there have been links to the Ukraine with hints about outbreaks of a new and more lethal airborne disease .
This is only a few days after reports of light planes reportedly being seen spraying over populated areas !
I only just read the following on Steve Quayles site , which appears to be the introduction of Martial Law in the Ukraine .
As this is obviously not been reported on the msm so I'd be grateful for some feedback as to whether there is an iota of truth in it .
Cos if it's true , I'm going to start to feel a wee bit nervous .

MARTIAL LAW IN THE UKRAINE * PRESIDENT ANNOUNCES ARRESTS OF OPPONENTS OF FORCED VACCINATION AND QUARANTINES * WHO CARRIES OUT COUP D' ETAT UNDER PANDEMIC EMERGENCY PRETEXT

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The Ukrainian President Victor Yushchenko has issued a statement strongly suggesting that the government is preparing to carry out mass forced vaccinations with the untested swine flu jab.

In a statement posted on the government website, Yushchenko announced a crack down on political protests and orders for the arrest of public health officials who have opposed mass "swine flu“ vaccinations and quarantines.

http://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/15609.html

"I instruct the Government and the Ministry of Health to immediately start preventive and promotional work in areas where there is no epidemic, targeting primarily the special risk groups,“ he said.

"This means that medical aid must be urgently reinforced by emergency, critical care treatment. It is generally known that the only way to prevent any infection is vaccination,“ he said.

Yushchenko said he had ordered key medical officials who allowed political protests against the government to continue in the city of Kiev to be arrested under the pretext that they were jeopardising public health.

"I have addressed the Prosecutor General of Ukraine with the request to institute criminal charges of negligence committed by first of all the Chief Sanitary Inspector, Kyiv City Sanitarian and the officials, who, despite having daily information on the epidemic situation in the country, neglected it in pursuit of political dividends and ambition,“ he said.

Furthermore, he strongly suggested that democracy in the Ukraine was about to be uprooted and replaced by military rule under a special "interdepartmental commission“ that follows orders from WHO and the UN.

"We must change the system. We must change the entire system of government in Ukraine,“ Yushchenko said.

"Back in April of 2009 I addressed the Government with the request to establish a special interdepartmental commission on fighting the spread of flu viruses, to finance the establishment of Flu Center and to take all measures to protect the country against flu. That included providing adequate availability of medicines, facemasks and all other necessaries. "

This "interdepartmental commission“ to tackle pandemic flus appears to be subordinated to WHO and the UN under provisions in the International Health Regulations 2005.

In addition, he said he had issued a ban on all medicines to treat infections and will allow the use only of toxic and untested swine flu jabs mandated by WHO: the "vaccines“ are classified as bioweapons by EU and US authorities.

"I demand the Government to immediately cancel the existing order of registration of medical supplies, including vaccines.

Studying this issue by the National Security and Defense Council shown that this procedure has allowed various dealers to bring to Ukraine dubious medicines, which are not recognized by the WHO or other national institutions,“ he said.

In addtion, he said that anyone who did not follow the government’s orders on the pandemic would be arrested.

"Failure to comply with its orders will immediately result in application to the law enforcement authorities,“ he said.

Yushchenko amended the national pandemic plan on October 30th to increase the power of the secret services and police in the event of a pandemic emergency.

In his statement, Yuschenko maintains that the "swine flu“ virus may have mutated into something more virulent. Indeed, a WHO affiliated scientist, Professor Bruno Lina, has been actively looking for a gene to make the H1N1 virus more lethal in a laboratory in Lyon.

The implementation of the emergency comes amid allegations that the government, WHO and the pharmaceutical company, Baxter, were involved in the deliberate release of a pneumonic plague pathogen in order to create chaos and confusion and justify a coup d’etat.

This is the statement by Yushchenko on his website:

http://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/15609.html

November 4, 2009

Dear fellow citizens!

I address you in performance of my constitutional duty under the Article 106 of the Basic Law of the state.

The reason is the emergency epidemic situation in the country.

Infections of viral origin, including the A/H1N1 flu, are rapidly spreading across Ukraine.

The emergency is evident in the scale of the epidemic: the speed and the geography of its spreading, rapid progress of the illness and the exceptional number of deaths.

People are dying. The epidemic is killing doctors. This is absolutely unprecedented and inconceivable in the XXI century.

All the limits have been exceeded - even those under the Constitution that determine my actions as the President.

Therefore I am motivated by the most important: the security of your life and your health.

Therefore I give clear and frank assessment of the situation. And you should know that.

We have special risk factors that aggravate the epidemic in Ukraine.

The conclusions of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine, my numerous consultations with national and international experts show that.

First. Unlike similar epidemics in other countries, three pathogens of viral infections came to Ukraine at the same time: two of them are seasonal flu and the third is the A/H1N1.

According to virologists, such a combination of infections due to mutation may produce a new, even more aggressive virus.

That's why I have addressed the United Nations with the request to conduct a virologic examination in Ukraine and to establish the appropriate laboratory in order to take timely preventive measures.

Second. The A/H1N1 virus is easily mutating. It has travelled across half of the globe before coming to Ukraine.

This means that the virus has become particularly pathogenic.

This means that medical aid must be urgently reinforced by emergency, critical care treatment.

The third risk factor. It is generally known that the only way to prevent any infection is vaccination.

Due to unprofessional and highly disorganized vaccination against measles and rubella in Ukraine the practice of vaccination is compromised in essence.

According to the estimates of the Minister of Health approximately 58% of citizens are vaccinated today in Ukraine with the effective level being 90% and higher.

People have stopped getting vaccinated against extremely dangerous infections: tuberculosis, diphtheria, etc.

This led to high risk of A/H1N1 infection spread, when the virus came to Ukraine and made impossible preventive vaccination against both strains of seasonal flu.

All this made general epidemic situation in Ukraine even more complicated.

As the President I ask you, dear fellow citizens, to reconsider your attitude to vaccination and do it if necessary, but only, I emphasize it - only after consultation with the doctor.

At the same time I instruct the Government and the Ministry of Health to immediately start preventive and promotional work in areas where there is no epidemic, targeting primarily the special risk groups.

I demand the Government to immediately cancel the existing order of registration of medical supplies, including vaccines.

Studying this issue by the National Security and Defense Council shown that this procedure has allowed various dealers to bring to Ukraine dubious medicines, which are not recognized by the WHO or other national institutions.

Under my direction the Security Service is investigating the issue.

The fourth factor. In reality it is the Reactor 4.

I mean the epidemic, rapid spread of viral infections in the west of the country. The Government, the leadership of the Parliament and the opposition were all aware of that already in early October.

The first and the most effective preventive measure is avoiding large gatherings of people.

Ignoring this principle, hundreds of thousands of people from different regions were brought to Kyiv; from both the areas struck by the epidemic, and those where there was no evidence of this epidemic.

This greatly increased the risk of infection.

I emphasize: it was a well-known thing. And it was ignored by the Chairman of the Parliament, by the opposition leader and, first of all, by the Prime Minister. And Chief Sanitary Inspector, together with his subordinates in the regions, including those in the city of Kiev ignored their professional duty.

This directly reminds of the May Day demonstration in Kiev, held shortly after the accident at Chernobyl NPP.

This is a display of criminal irresponsibility of politicians and complete indifference towards the people.

Let me cite one example. On October 20 the epidemic of flu was declared in Ternopil with schools and kindergartens closed for quarantine. "From October 21 secondary and primary schools are closed due to the growing rate of flu and ARD sickness”. This was the order of local authorities.

As of October 20 the rate of ARD in Ternopil was 172.9 cases per 10 thousand people with epidemiological threshold for the city being 160 patients per 10 thousand people. In other words - all services of the country responsible for monitoring the figure were informed and knew about the situation.

However, not a single Sanitary Inspector has banned either the movement of people, nor their gathering, including those in Kiev on October 24, when people have gathered at the central square.

I would like to remind you, my dear, that on October 24, 2009 10 deaths were known to have occurred in Ternopil region itself and 6 deaths were reported in Lviv region. And in 7 days after the abovementioned gathering Kyiv turned out in the situation, when the rate of sickness demanded the announcement of flu epidemic. This is the behavior of the great politicians. The neglect of elementary means of prevention of a disease in any country in the world, by any society. Because they must conduct a show, they have concerts, because they were paid for and 130 million have already been spent.

In that, dear Ukrainians, I see not only moral but also criminal liability.

I have addressed the Prosecutor General of Ukraine with the request to institute criminal charges of negligence committed by first of all the Chief Sanitary Inspector, Kyiv City Sanitarian and the officials, who, despite having daily information on the epidemic situation in the country, neglected it in pursuit of political dividends and ambition.

Now, the only principle of organizing preventive measures at the national scale should be as follows:

We treat the West and defend East, Center, North and South of Ukraine amain.

I now rely solely on the professionalism of our doctors. Today they are the true heroes of our nation.

I once again demand the Government to comply with the order the National Security and Defense Council to resolve the issue of wages for our doctors in this difficult period for the country.

The fifth factor.

Dear fellow citizens, the key threat that is aggravating the situation is chaos in the system of healthcare and protection of lives of people.

Today we must recognize that Ukraine does not have a single healthcare system. Prevention of any infection, including through vaccination, the localization and overcoming the consequences of epidemics is the responsibility of the State Sanitary-Epidemiological Service of Ukraine.

The Service is headed by the Chief Sanitary Inspector. He is appointed by the Prime Minister.

The current Constitution after alterations in 2004 makes the Government solely responsible for conducting state healthcare policy.

The practice of using the power, as evident today, is a failure.

To the executive power, which is not subordinate to the President, I have suggested the holistic healthcare reforms plan and a set of instructions and recommendations that would help create the optimal model of the system for years to come. My remarks were presented as the groundless interference in Government’s work and as the unfounded criticism.

Back in April of 2009 I addressed the Government with the request to establish a special interdepartmental commission on fighting the spread of flu viruses, to finance the establishment of Flu Center and to take all measures to protect the country against flu. That included providing adequate availability of medicines, facemasks and all other necessaries.

Partial implementation of the instructions has its consequences.

They were not ignoring me – they were ignoring the people, the citizens. It is clear why. Because Ukraine still has unfair system of healthcare - one is for the power, the other is for the people.

We must change the system. We must change the entire system of government in Ukraine.

But now, in this moment there is no time for waiting or remonstrance.

National Security and Defense Council should become the center of decision-making.

Failure to comply with its orders will immediately result in application to the law enforcement authorities.

I remind all the responsible persons and draw attention to all of my orders, made in Lviv four days ago. In three days the deadline for compliance with these orders expires.

With my decree I put Minister of Health and Chief Sanitary Inspector of Ukraine into the Council for National Security and Defense.

I am conscious of my responsibility.

I express deep condolences to the families and relatives of those who have died.

I express my deep appreciation to doctors, who are saving our people risking their own lives. I am moved by this sacrifice. Such a commitment means that the epidemic will be stopped.

I appeal to all of you, dear fellow citizens, to show solidarity, mutual support, and strictly adhere to all the safety regulations regarding protection of your health and lives.

For not a single moment you will be left alone by the state.



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PostSat Nov 07, 2009 10:12 pm » by Boondox681


totally fuckin' crazy.you know what's crazier?the fact that no media outlet in the U.S.is even running this story.not shocked or surprised...just saddened. :cry:
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PostSat Nov 07, 2009 10:40 pm » by Cornbread714


A slightly different take on the issue:

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/ ... topstories
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PostSun Nov 08, 2009 12:02 am » by Muchtyman


Whilst I appreciate that there is a certain " Soviet " style language to these reports , which would not be acceptable in the West , Read this !

Again from Steve Quayle's Site


E-mail from Eyewitness in Romania Concerning Pneumonic Plague

November 4, 2009

It is quite possible that what they are really dealing with is the Pnumonic Plague or black death. There are outbreaks all over Romania now, however they will not give any details on the infection and are still insisting that it is all swine flu. My bravo sierra detector is going off big time. What I am seeing here in Romania and getting reports of in Ukraine, poland, Bulgaria, and Hungary is afast moving disease. If is is the black death, you should be concerned, when the black death wiped out 25% of Europe it took 4 years before the plague subsided. It is virulent however it does NOT burn itself out quickly. Sounds like I need some thieves oil.

It is still early and details are sketchy, but the Romanian authorities and the press here are definitely covering something up.
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Hi Will,

Thank you for the kind words. Its the least i can do. I will do whatever I can to be a benefit to this forum and its members. I also want to thank you for your intel and your diligent attention to the unfolding events. You are a great asset here and I just want you to know your contributions are well noticed and appreciated.

Regarding the "man on the street" over in this region of the world, I agree with your assessment. They are in the dark. No one over here is telling them about globalism and its ties to the lucifarian one world adjenda. As a rule I have noticed they tend to be justifiably distrustful of their national and local governments, however inexplicably, they seem to believe that supernational organizations like WHO,IMF, EU, UN etc have their best interests at heart. This is very disturbing and dangerous for all the reasons you know all to well. The only positive thing I can say, is they seem relatively open to listening to the explanation of what is really going on and why. Perhaps this is because of their past experience with communism and the similarity of the tactics used by the forces of globalism.

Thanks for the email and we'll keep this channel open.

Best,
Rick

PS-I just saw a report of 2 people in cluj (which is north center in the country about 75 miles south of Ukraine in the Transylvania region) were hospitalized in critical condition with "suspected" h1n1. No confirmation yet as of either h1n1 or if it is the Ukrainian strain. It definitely has my attention and I'll be following this closely.

Me Again ; Paranoia aside , 2 minutes after posting the original article , dtv was unobtainable . Is anybody else having problems ?

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PostSun Nov 08, 2009 12:19 am » by Muchtyman


Just to get your Attention ! :banana: :banana: :banana:


Pneunomic Plague and Aerosol Delivery

Pneumonic plague is one of three main forms of plague, all of which are caused by the bacterium Yersinia pestis. It is more virulent and rarer than bubonic plague. The difference between the versions of plague is simply the location of the infection. Pneumonic plague is an infection in the lung(s), bubonic plague is an infection of the buboes or lymph nodes, while septicemic plague is an infection in the blood stream.
Typically, pneumonic form is due to a secondary spread from advanced infection of an initial bubonic form. Primary pneumonic plague results from inhalation of fine infective droplets and can be transmitted from human to human without involvement of fleas or animals. Untreated pneumonic plague has a very high fatality rate.
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Pathology and transmission


Pneumonic plague can be caused in two ways: primary, which results from the inhalation of aerosolised plague bacteria, or secondary, when septicemic plague spreads into lung tissue from the bloodstream. Pneumonic plague is not exclusively vector-borne like bubonic plague; instead it can be spread from person to person. There have been cases of pneumonic plague resulting from the dissection or handling of contaminated animal tissue. This is one type of the formerly known Black Plague. It could kill 90%–100% of a population if the victims coughed and passed on the bacteria.


Symptoms

The most apparent symptom of pneumonic plague is coughing, often with hemoptysis (coughing up blood). With pneumonic plague, the first signs of illness are fever, headache, weakness, and rapidly developing pneumonia with shortness of breath, chest pain, cough, and sometimes bloody or watery sputum.[1] The pneumonia progresses for two to four days and may cause respiratory failure and shock. Without early treatment, patients will die, some within 24 hours.


When they begin, pneumonic plague symptoms can often include:


Fever
Weakness
Headache
Rapidly developing pneumonia with:
Shortness of breath
Chest pain
Cough
Bloody or watery sputum (saliva and discharge from respiratory passages).



Prognosis and treatment

Pneumonic plague is a very aggressive infection requiring early treatment. To reduce the risk of death, antibiotics must be given within 24 hours of first symptoms.[1] Streptomycin, gentamicin, tetracyclines, and chloramphenicol are all effective against pneumonic plague.

Antibiotic treatment for seven days will protect people who have had direct, close contact with infected patients. Wearing a close-fitting surgical mask also protects against infection.[1]

Without treatment, the mortality rate from pneumonic plague approaches 100%.[3]
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There is no question that porous particle technology holds tremendous promise for improving drug inhalants, however, by designing a means to circumvent the respiratory system’s natural defenses, this technological advance also presents a classic dual-use dilemma. For example, facilitating deep lung penetration of anthrax spores would increase their lethality by ensuring that more spores make it deep into the lungs.

Inhaled aerosols can likewise transmit the pathogens for pneumonic plague, tularemia, Q fever, smallpox, viral encephalitis, viral hemorrhagic fevers, and botulism, to name a few. The implications are more serious since we know from the anthrax attacks in 2001 that some of the victims who succumbed to inhalation anthrax had been exposed to a much lower dose than past research had indicated necessary to cause disease.

Though much attention by policymakers has been directed at research with select agents and pathogens, other technological advances can clearly lower the barriers to bioweapons development and use. Following the 2001 anthrax attacks, Edwards recognized the existing opportunity to "reverse engineer" an inhaled drug delivery system and increase terrorist ability to bypass natural defenses.

SourceS: Part 1: Wikipedia, Part 2: The Sunshine Project

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Just Curious ; Is there anybody on this site from Eastern Europe that can kill this Rumour ?

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PostSun Nov 08, 2009 12:29 am » by jetxvii


these cases, and stories are the times that I want to put the tin foil hat on.... I really don't want to think it is possible but the puzzle pieces fit together a little to nicely...

I hope everyone gets ready if this flu transformed this fast it will do it again.... man made or not... the next phase is where you will have to wear bio suits because you will contract it through the air...


maybe this is the depopulation technique.

maybe it isn't but we need to be careful and still watch what is going on out there.

I for one believe Joseph Moshe was a mossad, the incredible event that happened that day was extraordinary and I tell you what, I know marines or Military men that can do what he did that day...

"called in a threat to the white house"..... Yeah I am sure he did, a nice helpful threat to warn everyone and the gov came in and said "surprise we are working against you.....bitch!"



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