The USA(74) is 'Israel': God's chosen people

Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:15 pm » by **Bradwatson**

The USA74* in Bible Prophecy

'Israel' is NOT only the country/people in the Middle East, NOR is it only the Jewish74 Diaspora. 'Israel' also means 'God's chosen people'. The USA is the primary country that is 'God's chosen people'. Mostly Christian with the majority being Protestant, Catholics & Eastern Orthodox are also well-represented in the USA. Many Muslims live in the USA and practice their religion freely, and are beginning a Reformed Muslim branch. And Jews have sought religious freedom in the USA since before 1776. There are today more Jews in the USA than in the Middle Eastern country of Israel.

*Simple74 English74 Gematria74

Synchronic reaction: 10:07 EST - SyFy Channel: "What a coincidence!"

- Brad Watson, Miami, FL
author of There Are No Coincidences - the "book/scroll" of The Revelation 5:1-10:10

Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:20 pm » by **Jimmyduek**

the chosen people is/were the people of israel where israel is equal to jacob
jacob was named israel after beating up an angel
is not referng to a zone, is refering to the people
and... where did you hear that israel means god´s chosen people,i never heard aout it in my life and beleave me, im veery familiarized with the judaism

Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:37 pm » by **Truthdefender**

It is so obvious that you have almost no familiarity with or comprehension of the Bible with these wacky numeric threads. The USA is most definitely not Israel or God's chosen people. Just look at our money and our nation's capital. If anything this is maybe the most satanic atmosphere in the world. i.e....music, entertainment, porn etc. Not to mention your post reeks of replacement theology. Which is one of the avenues of racism towards God's true chosen people the Jews. Because of their ways and rejection of God, Jesus Christ is the only way for any of us to be God's chosen people, yet the prophetic Word says soon as we get deeper into the time of the end, He will open their eyes to Him again, and soften their hearts, sealing 144,000 young Jewish males who will bring the Gospel to the rest of the world as the antichrist tries to destroy them and all who turn back to Christ and the only living God.

Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:41 pm » by **Mumin**

woohoo! Dr. Watson is still here!
Can I also be judged now? please? pretty please?

Wed Jan 12, 2011 6:06 pm » by **Bradwatson**

jimmyduek wrote:the chosen people is/were the people of israel where israel is equal to jacob

Jimmy Duek,

I imagine that your formal name is James? 'James' is the English version of the Greek name 'Jacob' of the original Hebrew/Aramaic name 'Yakov74'. (Please google that for confirmation.) James/Jacob/Yakov was also the name of Y'shua/Jesus' brother who was left 'in charge of the new movement' after Jesus' crucifixion. Genesis 35:10, "God said to him, 'Your name is Yakov, but you will no longer be called Yakov; your name will be Is-ra-el." Israel means 'he struggles with God'. The King James Version introduces this name as 'Is-ra-el'. Is this just for pronunciation? No, it's a Masonic74 thing. 'Is-Ra-El?' = Is the Sun-god Ra, El: the Hebrew God? ("El Bethel" [God's house] - Gen 35:7) Ah, enlightenment.* :ohno:

jimmyduek wrote:jacob was named israel after beating up an angel

Wrong. Read Gen 32:24-32 "Yakov (Jacob) wrestled with God."

jimmyduek wrote:(israel) is not referng to a zone, is refering to the people

After Joshua74/Y'shua74 and the ancient Hebrews entered the 'Promised Land', there is now a perpetual connect74ion between74 the Israelites and the land of Israel.

jimmyduek wrote:where did you hear that israel means god´s chosen people,i never heard aout it in my life and beleave me, im veery familiarized with the judaism

I AM Jewish, but not exclusively. I'm not at home where my BIG dictionary is. Please refer to a large Webster's Dictionary and 'God's chosen people' should come up as definition #3? Google it. :look:

*Synchronic reaction: 10:32 The phone rings, it's a close Jewish friend/fellow musican Jeff Fleishman.

Wed Jan 12, 2011 6:10 pm » by **Bradwatson**

mumin wrote:woohoo! Dr. Watson is still here!
Can I also be judged now? please? pretty please?

Synchronic reaction: 10:56 EST I AM currently watching Star Trek: The Next Generation on SyFy while writing. The episode that is on is where a devil-like character returns to a planet after 1,000 years and Capt. Picard opposes her with Data as judge in a courtroom setting. Very 'coincidental'.

- Brad Watson, Miami, FL
author of There Are No Coincidences - there is synchronism

Wed Jan 12, 2011 6:20 pm » by **Jimmyduek**

bradwatson wrote:
jimmyduek wrote:the chosen people is/were the people of israel where israel is equal to jacob

Jimmy Duek,

I imagine that your formal name is James? 'James' is the English version of the Greek name 'Jacob' of the original Hebrew/Aramaic name 'Yakov74'. James/Jacob/Yakov was also the name of Y'shua/Jesus' brother who was left 'in charge of the new movement' after Jesus' crucifixion. Please google that for confirmation. Genesis 35:10 God said to him, 'Your name is Yakov, but you will no longer be called Yakov; your name will be Is-ra-el." Israel means 'he struggles with God'. The King James Version introduces this name as 'Is-ra-el'. Is this just for pronunciation? No, it's a Masonic74 thing. 'Is-Ra-El?' Is the Sun-god Ra, El: the Hebrew God? ("El Bethel" [God's house]- Gen 35:7) Ah, enlightenment.*

jimmyduek wrote:jacob was named israel after beating up an angel

Wrong. Read Gen 32:24-32 "Yakov (Jacob) wrestled with God."
jimmyduek wrote:(israel) is not referng to a zone, is refering to the people

After Joshua74 and the ancient Hebrews enter the 'Promised Land', there is now a perpetual connect74ion between74 the Israelites and the land of Israel.

jimmyduek wrote:where did you hear that israel means god´s chosen people,i never heard aout it in my life and beleave me, im veery familiarized with the judaism

I AM Jewish, but not exclusively. I'm not at home where my BIG dictionary is. Please refer to a large Webster's Dictionary and 'God's chosen people' should come up as definition #3? Google it.

*Synchronic reaction: 10:32 The phone rings, it's a close Jewish friend/fellow musican Jeff Fleishman.

im jewish too, and i know what im talking about
the names there are not the same in hebreo james is "chaim" jacob its "yaakov" joshua is "yeashua" and jesus is "yeshu", first
second, i dont know about your traduction of the bible but yaakov doesnt fight with god, he fought against an angel i did research, now, and he fight with an angel
third the promes land is israel, but the bible doesnt refer to the land, refer to the people who came in the line of abraham isaac and jacob

if you are using google dictionaries to look the meaning of israel you are soooo wrong and you need some classes, and do not mention again about the names, because in the bible are diferent in hebrew are diferent, i live in israel and i know what im talking about

Wed Jan 12, 2011 6:30 pm » by **Truthdefender**

Who in the Bible
wrestled with an ANGEL? Print Page
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Q. Who wrestled with an angel in the Bible? Why did this wrestling match occur?
(Submitted by: Amera)

A. The person who wrestled with an angel was Jacob, son of Isaac, grandson of Abraham. The story is that Jacob has traveled to the home of his mother’s brother, Laban to find a wife and wound up with two wives. Laban tricked Jacob into marrying Laban’s oldest daughter, Leah, when Jacob actually meant to marry her younger sister Rachel. He worked for Laban seven (7) years for each of the women and then decides to return to the home of his father Isaac. On the way back, Jacob sent his sons and wives across the ford (a shallow area where one could cross without too much difficulty) in the river Jabbok but remained on the other side. The story picks up there:
"That night Jacob got up and took his two wives, his two maidservants and his eleven sons and crossed the ford of the Jabbok. After he had sent them across the stream, he sent over all his possessions.

"So Jacob was left alone, and a man wrestled with him till daybreak. When the man saw that he could not overpower him, he touched the socket of Jacob's hip so that his hip was wrenched as he wrestled with the man. Then the man said, 'Let me go, for it is daybreak.' But Jacob replied, 'I will not let you go unless you bless me.' The man asked him, 'What is your name?' 'Jacob,' he answered. Then the man said, 'Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel, because you have struggled with God and with men and have overcome.' Jacob said, 'Please tell me your name.' But he replied, 'Why do you ask my name?' Then he blessed him there.

"So Jacob called the place Peniel, saying, 'It is because I saw God face to face, and yet my life was spared.' The sun rose above him as he passed Peniel, and he was limping because of his hip. Therefore to this day the Israelites do not eat the tendon attached to the socket of the hip, because the socket of Jacob's hip was touched near the tendon. " (Genesis 32:22-32, NIV)

As you read, the scripture does not say that Jacob wrestled with an "angel" but with a "man". The man does not tell Jacob His name but says that Jacob had "struggled with God", and Jacob says he "saw God face to face, and yet my life was spared." Because of this, many think that this was actually God, the Son who had appeared before to both Abraham (see Genesis 12:7; 17:1; 18:1) and Isaac (see Genesis 26:1,24) in the form of a man.

It was also after the battle was over that God renamed Jacob to Israel (Genesis 32:28).

Written by: Clay Willis

Wed Jan 12, 2011 6:45 pm » by **Jimmyduek**

in hebrew says that he fight with a man, god is not a man

Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:32 pm » by **Lahlaos**

The US of A is faaaar from 'Gods chosen people' there one of the bad guys