They Have Returned!

Wed Oct 19, 2011 6:31 am » by **44z44**

newearthman wrote:How ironic Zaff, you embrace exactly what you stand against...tisk, tisk.

How? i dont believe in any religion,i was born in a muslim household,if anything i call higher-power/god etc...allah.

Wed Oct 19, 2011 6:39 am » by **Newearthman**

44z44 wrote:
newearthman wrote:How ironic Zaff, you embrace exactly what you stand against...tisk, tisk.

How? i dont believe in any religion,i was born in a muslim household,if anything i call higher-power/god etc...allah.

I know. This is not about religion. It's about you and your over use of the word sheeple.

By definition you are acting like a sheeple by potraying your avitar. Ask yourself...What does this stand for. I will tell you. It stands for you being a sheeple because you are following a trendy thing with your avitar. I hate to play Dr. Phil but the signs are on the wall. :peace:

Wed Oct 19, 2011 6:51 am » by **Gonzo63**

astroboy777 wrote:
gonzo63 wrote:They have returned . . . their sweaters . . . cuz they weren't happy with the color or the fit!

Hey, don’t jumper to conclusions… We don’t do returns, we lack that ability, eh!

Damn! Can I exchange them then, for a nice gift for Oto? Maybe a sexy pair of clamdiggers? Or some kitten heels? :owned:

Wed Oct 19, 2011 6:54 am » by **Eliakim**

44z44 wrote:
newearthman wrote:How ironic Zaff, you embrace exactly what you stand against...tisk, tisk.

How? i dont believe in any religion,i was born in a muslim household,if anything i call higher-power/god etc...allah.

Chew on this Zaff because back up is on its way.

Calling Out Livingthetorah.webs.com

I have tried to email this website but there does not appear to be an email address to contact then. [1] This link is about the Malachi prophecy about robbing ELOHIM of tithes and offerings.

1. I agree with him that the money is not meant to be given to any Church because no Churches were meant to be even built. The bible informed the people not to build upon the foundations of Jesus Christ with building materials.

If anyone builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, their work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each person’s work. If what has been built survives, the builder will receive a reward. If it is burned up, the builder will suffer loss but yet will be saved—even though only as one escaping through the flames. 1 Corinthians 3 12-17

But land that produces thorns and thistles is worthless and is in danger of being cursed. In the end it will be burned. Hebrews 6:8

Now when ELOHIM flew into the USA, the Philadelphia Prince of Peace Church burned to the ground at the end of April 2008. The Paraclete had arrived, and the Church burned in the fire exactly as the prophecy predicted it would. The mission to the USA of Daughter T'Zion is also mentioned in Micah, 4, her trip to Babylon, when she returned, the prophecy tells you that she received her kingship.

Secondly, they were told that the religious buildings would come down in the last days of the end times. Why is that? He knew that New Jerusalem, the new holy city of enlightenment that Prophet Isaiah predicted was coming in the last days.

2. The website claims that no tithes or offerings were given to Jesus Christ and his followers. Well I suggest that they read the New Testament with new eyes; because Jesus Christ and his followers had a community purse. What do you think they lived on fresh air?

Also when he sent the Apostles out to heal the people, he told them not to take any money with them, not to take their staff, no bag or sandals. He told them to find a person that was worthy of them and they they would give them everything that was required. In other words find somebody that can afford to pay you and take care of you financially. He knew that only a person that was worthy of the healers and could afford to pay them, would do so.

“Do not get any gold or silver or copper to take with you in your belts—no bag for the journey or extra shirt or sandals or a staff, for the worker is worth his keep. Whatever town or village you enter, search there for some worthy person and stay at their house until you leave. As you enter the home, give it your greeting. If the home is deserving, let your peace rest on it; if it is not, let your peace return to you. If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet. Truly I tell you, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than for that town." Matthew 10: 10-15

The reason he sent them out with nothing, is because he told them that they were worthy of their keep. That meant board and lodgings, new clothes and sandals to include money to pay for it and the work that they were doing for the LORD God, our heavenly Father.

3. Livingthetorah.webs.com claim that there there were no tithes or offerings given by his followers. Correction. He told the people that if they wished to follow him they had to lose their life to gain their life. Also the followers laid all of their possessions at the Apostles feet, property, all of their financial assets. There is also the parable of the rich man that wished to follow him and couldn't do so, because he wasn't prepared to give up all of his wealth and everything that he owned due to his attachment to it.

4. Jesus Christ was not the Messenger of the Covenant that was predicted to come in the Malachi prophecies. The Malachi prophecies are about the last days of the end times and the ELOHIM, that the LORD God sends to help humanity. The is why Prophet Isaiah also predicted that the everlasting covenant would come in the last days. The covenant was delivered on the 9th of September, 2007 for
the children of the world.

5. Elohim can mean Angel or Judge. The biblical prophecies also predicted that the Angels are the harvesters in the last days of the end times. In Jewish mysticism, the healers are known as the Angels of Elohim. In fact, it is has been proven that when Jesus Christ was healing the child he said my name in Aramaic. The name that is on my birth certificate.

The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels. Matthew 13:39

The Angels of ELOHIM.

6. The New Testament tells the people that judgement would begin when the sign of Jonah arrived in Israel. The whale arrived in Israel in May 2010. Following that 5 million trees burned down on Mount Carmel, the Mountain of the Prophet Elijah and Our Lady of Carmel. That happened Jewish New Year, 2010.

The prophecy predict that if they still do not turn their hearts to the children and do the will of the LORD God then the Judah will be flooded next. In January 2011, the whole of Queensland was flooded as well as many parts of the USA. However, Israel know what is coming next if they do not do the will of the LORD God.

The prophecy also told the people that the Queen of the South would come to judge this generation. The timeline given for the judgement was when the sign of Jonah turned up. It also tells the people that the Queen of the South as more wisdom then Solomon. Rev 13, also told you that the situation described required insight and it states 'This calls for WISDOM' to do the count on the man 666'. The 3rd beast, the Leo the Leopard from Africa who is Obama.

The Virgin, the wondrous woman from heaven arrived in Rev 12, prior to Obama. The prophecy of Zephaniah also told the people that the Virgin would stand against the Son of Lawlessness. The man that the Nation of Islam's leader called the Messiah and the Son of the Most High.

The prophecy about the sign of Jonah, also told the people that the Queen of the South is the judge, in other words she is ELOHIM because ELOHIM means judge. Malachi 3 also talks about the judgement. In Psalm 45 she is the Royal Bride, the Royal Queen. ELOHIM is also mentioned in Psalm 46 that Obama read out on 9/11 and he spoke of HER.

There are frescos of ELIAKIM and she is featured again in the JESSE fresco painted by Michelangelo and both sit in the Vatican Sistine Chapel.

7. The link provided mentions a tithe of 10%, correction. There is no % mentioned in the Malachi prophecy and offerings can come in many different ways. For sure those that refused to help when asked to do so, are in serious trouble.

8. So what did the LORD God command? He said $365, a dollar a day, you must pay'.

In the last few days he also asked for Harold Camping to hand over the money that he as collected. Clearly, that is only way that he and his followers can redeem themselves, due to what they have done.

9. The Malachi prophecies predict that the blessings will fall from heaven upon the givers; and judgement will come upon the nations that do not make an offering or tithe.

10. The linked website mentions the bread from heaven and that is to do with the manna. The book of Revelation predicted that the one that was victorious and overcome was given the hidden manna.

To the one who is victorious, I will give some of the hidden manna. I will also give that person a white stone with a new name written on it, known only to the one who receives it. Rev 2:17

"Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take your crown. The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name. Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches." Rev 3:12-13

To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I was victorious and sat down with my Father on his throne. Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches.” Rev 3 21-22

Teshuvah

ELIAKIM JOSEPH-SOPHIA

1. http://livingthetorah.webs.com/falsetithingsystem.htm

Wed Oct 19, 2011 6:58 am » by **Rich316**

Well we're only 3/4 of the way thru the precessional cycle.. so maybe they're early? Better still, tell em to come back in 6,000 years :mrgreen:

Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:58 am » by **Astroboy777**

44z44 wrote:It's time for sheeples like you to WAKE-UP & stop beLIEving this

Zaff, really, if anyone around here is a sheep, it's you.
You only think it's bullshit because you lack the intellect to crasp any concept of astronomy.

The reason why I believe...

“To know the truth one must face it without the filter of one's own belief however respectable they may be". Understanding is to be wise, being wise is to understand! Why aliens?...If you knew what I know, then you too would believe completely... Understand this... because the universe is endless, the chances of the existence of intelligent extraterrestrial life are endless too, what’s infinitely probable is practically certain!

The eminent astrophysicist Frank Drake who formulated the Drake equation...N = R* = RATE OF FORMATION OF SUITABLE STARS. FP = FRACTION OF THOSE STARS WITH PLANETS. NE = NUMBER OF EARTH-LIKE WORLDS PER PLANETARY SYSTEM. FL = FRACTION OF PLANETS WHERE LIFE DEVELOPS .FI = FRACTION OF LIFE SITES WHERE INTELLIGENCE DEVELOPS. FC = FRACTION OF COMMUNICATIVE PLANETS. L= THE "LIFETIME" OF COMMUNICATING CIVILIZATIONS. N = 10,000 COMMUNICATIVE CIVILIZATIONS IN THE MILKYWAY GALAXY ALONE!!!

When applied to the universe as a whole, that’s 10,000 x 125 billion you do the math, that number when calculated is the 'probability' of intelligent alien life in the universe!! Stands to reason that some of those intelligent advanced alien beings that’s practically certain', could transcend the universe in ways we could not possibly understand as human beings at this point in our history!!! When you think of what we have achieved in the last 100 years just think of what we could learn in 1 million years, assuming we are still here after that time? We live in one galaxy of 125 billion galaxies, with each galaxy containing 400 billion stars approximately, to give you an idea of size it would take 100 thousand year at light speed just to cross our own galaxy the milky way. But just because 'we' lack the understanding and ability of the manipulation of space/time does not mean that intelligent advanced aliens do!

The universe is 14 billion years old approximately, our solar-system is a mere 4.5 billion years old, so that means the universe was 9.5 billion years old before our solar-system was even physical. Potentially intelligent alien beings could be many millions of years in advance of us! If that is so, just 'think' of what they could have learned in the way of technological advancements, and understanding the physical/metaphysical universe! Do they visit earth? I put this to you, of course they do, and are here now! The evidence for it is enough to send a man to the electric chair... UFO's are real, and we all know what is meant by UFO! Of course there are those who would say they would not believe it even if it was real! We are so young and foolish, absolute power corrupts absolutely! When are we going to learn this truth-tell-the-truth! Silly humans. The truth is for the benefit of all.

Wed Oct 19, 2011 8:01 am » by **Suevassusej**

They been here since the beginning and go back to ancient times and always
come as gods that's why Egypt, Sumerians, Babylonians, Mayan mention the gods
there are many of them they already taken over and infiltrated world governments.
Eisenhower had a meeting with these creatures in the 1950's at the same time
these black projects were created ( Holloman Airforce base New Mexico)

get ready for the biggest deception that has ever been played
on the people of earth they've been prepped and trained
to take the bait now just awaiting proper timing.

Wed Oct 19, 2011 2:33 pm » by **44z44**

newearthman wrote:
44z44 wrote:
newearthman wrote:How ironic Zaff, you embrace exactly what you stand against...tisk, tisk.

How? i dont believe in any religion,i was born in a muslim household,if anything i call higher-power/god etc...allah.

I know. This is not about religion. It's about you and your over use of the word sheeple.

By definition you are acting like a sheeple by potraying your avitar. Ask yourself...What does this stand for. I will tell you. It stands for you being a sheeple because you are following a trendy thing with your avitar. I hate to play Dr. Phil but the signs are on the wall.

The avatar thing by me was done deliberately btw,i knew somebody would say what you typed,kerr is a pussy for saying saturnv was faking his illness.

Wed Oct 19, 2011 2:45 pm » by **Fatdogmendoza**

Zaff says......' How? i dont believe in any religion,i was born in a muslim household,if anything i call higher-power/god etc...allah' .... ist that by definition a contradiction in terms..

Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:01 pm » by **Temps13**

yeah perhaps they have dispatched extra people here early,before the end of the age of pisces in 2160 ad,due to what they have observed via the probes/flying cameras etc that they seem to have everywhere,particularly over biological research establishments like porton down and nuclear facilities,icbm launch facilities etc...dint that seti guy claim 3 large objects were heading here and calculated to arrive dec 2012,right when,if our calendars correct,the mayans said they would return? or maybe that was a crock of shit but they are already here so they wont be 'returning',just reinforcing their presence.if they are really massive craft near the sun,thats some serious shit