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PostThu May 19, 2011 12:52 am » by The57ironman


stratafire wrote:The problem (nowadays) that the military has activated it's AI based programming, that is designed to generate unlimited number of "bot's" that are designed to behave as a human would in a forum, or an old world BBS style of operation..

It is designed to cause division among those online (though supposed to be used only against an enemy, yet in America, the enemy is "everyone" by HSA standards.. go figure) ..

Happily, an AI system has an assigned "handler" associated only to that particular AI (like a dog is assigned only to one police handler as an example), they are always present (when the handlers AI is placed online), to correct for unknown elements, "anomalies" in speech patterns, to bypass the so called "capcha" confirmation protocols that most sites use nowadays (so that they can be online)..

The whole process is meant to sow discord, confusion, and emotional outbursts by those that are online, debating subject matters, that have some weight.. Fortunately (as I said) an AI is not infallible, they're certain signs that one can learn (and due to obvious reasons), I cannot lay them out here for you, because of security matters, simply because it would allow the handlers to correct for the "mistakes" I have seen crop up in certain posts, not only on this site, but on many others when I remain a "fly on the wall" (while doing other things of course that involve QI) ..

And one particular site (which I will not plug) has had the most active forms of bot's on the site itself (not this one, although a few are "very" questionable, as they fit the patterns I have been noticing)..

But the handlers are human, they correct for flagged subject matter, structures in sentencing that are not within the boundaries of the AI's current learning cycle, so it becomes the handlers job, to input manually the data the AI could not handle, while the AI learns by observing the handlers actions, and then learns how to handle the same situation when it becomes viable again..

Humans are emotional, impossible to compute (by AI standards) so they need handlers to correct for mistakes.. thing is, this leads to a a more "efficient" central AI program, when it receives all the elements from these bot's (a nightmare in the making)..

I see both human and bot interactions in a great deal of forums, the bot's always make the same set of mistakes (you will notice them if you observe long enough in different forums)..

But the one thing that causes us to become separate, divided, and flailing within these threads is: "Emotions"..

Remember that, and learn it, and the handlers job, will be "infinitely" harder to cause discontent, and derailments of threads..

any idea on the quantity of "handlers "....?
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PostThu May 19, 2011 12:58 am » by Roadkill


Discrediting is part of the test. If you are easily discredited you are probably full of shit.

If you are making extraordinary claims, be sure to bring your evidence, otherwise your ass will be handed to you.

I am glad it is this way, and I hope it never changes.
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PostThu May 19, 2011 1:01 am » by Wolfbane7272


ontyou wrote:i can name several others who should also be removed and i agree 100%. is this site for people who want look outside the box for truth or is this a site for idiots to attack anyone who does?

there seems to be a disturbing trend here, anyone who is earnest and has something to share is attacked and discredited by the same people over and over again. in fact they have a thread in which they congratulate themselves for being a-holes. it occurs to me that whoever is pointing the most fingers and screaming the loudest is usually the one who is the guiltiest of what they are accusing others of.

whatever useful purpose the forums had here at dtv, those days are gone. whoever owns this site doesn't give a rats ass about truth. if they did they would not allow the bullying that is rampant here. the moderators do nothing about members that are hijacking threads with personal attacks on other members, attempts to discredit, posting personal information about other members, veiled threats, and various other intimidation tactics. it's obvious that no body is minding the store here which is a shame because it only takes a few assholes to ruin it for everyone. they can clap each other on the back and go out for a beer to celebrate, because they have done a great job here. i'm sure they'll get a bonus from whoever they work for for the bang up job they did and continue to do.

it may seem like a small thing, one message board, some threads derailed, bullying, banning, it's just a message board, who cares? it's not a little thing though, it is an attack on truth. when a few people are able to make it so unpleasant for anyone to want to post or disagree with their bullying for fear of being ridiculed or accused of being part of some vague conspiracy that has no purpose or goal they have succeeded in closing one more outlet for people to look for alternative answers to what mainstream is still trying to shove down our throats. one thread at a time, one site at a time.
and so it goes. are you sick of it? i am.


yes i agree with you on this ,cant it be enough to objectively disagree and give said reason ?. to the ones that are abrasive and feel the need to intimidate, slander,and ridicule I say you are the minority in a world full of progressive and aware people who are not satisfied with the party line ,from both sides of the camp,objective and speculative. cheers
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PostThu May 19, 2011 1:04 am » by Ontyou


stratafire,
i find that information extremely useful and restores some measure of hope if it's true. it was terrifically disheartening to think human beings were so mindless and hateful. at least in the scenario you provide there are less people willing to sabotage their brothers and sisters then if each of the "people" were real. thank you for that small comfort.

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PostThu May 19, 2011 1:04 am » by -Marduk-


ontyou wrote:speak of the devil ...

yep...here I am

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PostThu May 19, 2011 1:08 am » by Teloc


sexiboi wrote:Ive spent a long time busting my ass to get the real truth out there about aliens and i am qualified for the job as i used to do similar work in the army with satelite images but when i post a video on here there's no end to the insults from people trying to discredit me

here are a couple names

mandown
truthtrecker2011

there is alot more than this-

these people should have their profiles removed by disclose tv because ive been watching all the comments they make on everyone's video's and its all the same dis info and im sick of it

i thought this was a sight for truth?! not to be insulted by some faggot spooks



be hard..

or be a fart...

ur choice dickhead..

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PostThu May 19, 2011 1:10 am » by Stratafire


the57ironman wrote:
stratafire wrote:The problem (nowadays) that the military has activated it's AI based programming, that is designed to generate unlimited number of "bot's" that are designed to behave as a human would in a forum, or an old world BBS style of operation..

It is designed to cause division among those online (though supposed to be used only against an enemy, yet in America, the enemy is "everyone" by HSA standards.. go figure) ..

Happily, an AI system has an assigned "handler" associated only to that particular AI (like a dog is assigned only to one police handler as an example), they are always present (when the handlers AI is placed online), to correct for unknown elements, "anomalies" in speech patterns, to bypass the so called "capcha" confirmation protocols that most sites use nowadays (so that they can be online)..

The whole process is meant to sow discord, confusion, and emotional outbursts by those that are online, debating subject matters, that have some weight.. Fortunately (as I said) an AI is not infallible, they're certain signs that one can learn (and due to obvious reasons), I cannot lay them out here for you, because of security matters, simply because it would allow the handlers to correct for the "mistakes" I have seen crop up in certain posts, not only on this site, but on many others when I remain a "fly on the wall" (while doing other things of course that involve QI) ..

And one particular site (which I will not plug) has had the most active forms of bot's on the site itself (not this one, although a few are "very" questionable, as they fit the patterns I have been noticing)..

But the handlers are human, they correct for flagged subject matter, structures in sentencing that are not within the boundaries of the AI's current learning cycle, so it becomes the handlers job, to input manually the data the AI could not handle, while the AI learns by observing the handlers actions, and then learns how to handle the same situation when it becomes viable again..

Humans are emotional, impossible to compute (by AI standards) so they need handlers to correct for mistakes.. thing is, this leads to a a more "efficient" central AI program, when it receives all the elements from these bot's (a nightmare in the making)..

I see both human and bot interactions in a great deal of forums, the bot's always make the same set of mistakes (you will notice them if you observe long enough in different forums)..

But the one thing that causes us to become separate, divided, and flailing within these threads is: "Emotions"..

Remember that, and learn it, and the handlers job, will be "infinitely" harder to cause discontent, and derailments of threads..

any idea on the quantity of "handlers "....?


Thats a good question, hard to say.. but the basics of being a handler, is how much input the handler can "handle", from more then one AI, anything above 2-4 , is pushing the limits of human endurances for multitasking.. I would say it depends on the "profile" of the site itself, high profile? more.. low profile.. less.. basic SOP for DOD based operatives, so it's a good chance that the process is "cyclical" or rotational (in other words), and there is no reason that they could not work subroutines that allow "best guess" or "ignore" parameters for a given post..

Fancy way of saying "I do not know for sure" lol..

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PostThu May 19, 2011 1:39 am » by Lowsix


There are no bots here..just people who disagree,
and then get called bots for disagreeing...persistently
when it warrants persistence.

There are however a certain group of people
who in their attmepts to SOUND like different people
will definitely sound bot-like...and make common mistakes.
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PostThu May 19, 2011 4:40 pm » by The57ironman


stratafire wrote:
the57ironman wrote:
stratafire wrote:The problem (nowadays) that the military has activated it's AI based programming, that is designed to generate unlimited number of "bot's" that are designed to behave as a human would in a forum, or an old world BBS style of operation..

It is designed to cause division among those online (though supposed to be used only against an enemy, yet in America, the enemy is "everyone" by HSA standards.. go figure) ..

Happily, an AI system has an assigned "handler" associated only to that particular AI (like a dog is assigned only to one police handler as an example), they are always present (when the handlers AI is placed online), to correct for unknown elements, "anomalies" in speech patterns, to bypass the so called "capcha" confirmation protocols that most sites use nowadays (so that they can be online)..

The whole process is meant to sow discord, confusion, and emotional outbursts by those that are online, debating subject matters, that have some weight.. Fortunately (as I said) an AI is not infallible, they're certain signs that one can learn (and due to obvious reasons), I cannot lay them out here for you, because of security matters, simply because it would allow the handlers to correct for the "mistakes" I have seen crop up in certain posts, not only on this site, but on many others when I remain a "fly on the wall" (while doing other things of course that involve QI) ..

And one particular site (which I will not plug) has had the most active forms of bot's on the site itself (not this one, although a few are "very" questionable, as they fit the patterns I have been noticing)..

But the handlers are human, they correct for flagged subject matter, structures in sentencing that are not within the boundaries of the AI's current learning cycle, so it becomes the handlers job, to input manually the data the AI could not handle, while the AI learns by observing the handlers actions, and then learns how to handle the same situation when it becomes viable again..

Humans are emotional, impossible to compute (by AI standards) so they need handlers to correct for mistakes.. thing is, this leads to a a more "efficient" central AI program, when it receives all the elements from these bot's (a nightmare in the making)..

I see both human and bot interactions in a great deal of forums, the bot's always make the same set of mistakes (you will notice them if you observe long enough in different forums)..

But the one thing that causes us to become separate, divided, and flailing within these threads is: "Emotions"..

Remember that, and learn it, and the handlers job, will be "infinitely" harder to cause discontent, and derailments of threads..

any idea on the quantity of "handlers "....?


Thats a good question, hard to say.. but the basics of being a handler, is how much input the handler can "handle", from more then one AI, anything above 2-4 , is pushing the limits of human endurances for multitasking.. I would say it depends on the "profile" of the site itself, high profile? more.. low profile.. less.. basic SOP for DOD based operatives, so it's a good chance that the process is "cyclical" or rotational (in other words), and there is no reason that they could not work subroutines that allow "best guess" or "ignore" parameters for a given post..

Fancy way of saying "I do not know for sure" lol..

......it would make for an interesting interview...
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PostThu May 19, 2011 4:51 pm » by Concretev3


What is 'real truth'?

Isn't truth, just truth?

By trying to make people to believe your 'truth' kinda makes a mockery of what you are truthfully saying.

Doesn't it?


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