Trayvon Shooter 'Would Hand Himself In'

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PostFri Apr 13, 2012 9:39 pm » by Spock


I should have picked a better expression, I was talking about the Eric Holders, Barak Obamas, New Black Panthers, Civil Rights Ministers, MTV Thug crowd, etc.

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PostFri Apr 13, 2012 9:41 pm » by Spock


noentry wrote:How do you know this is not a racial crime.
Did you speak to Zimmerman?
Your bullshit is just as bullshity as mine
I have said what I think happened and why.
So have you.

like it has been mentioned before we will learn the truth during the case.
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Simple, according to people that know him (Including Black People) that say he is not racist.

It sounds more like you hope he is a racist. The real racism and need for turmoil by you love and light libs is always brutally apparent to everyone but you.

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PostFri Apr 13, 2012 9:43 pm » by Noentry


fatdogmendoza wrote:
noentry wrote:1, Zimmerman followed the boy because he was black
2, the hoodie.
3, Trayvon was acting suspiciously, allegedly, this is hear say.

But you are all right when it goes to court we will know what happened.
In the end we are speculating.
That what we do isn't it :headscratch:


I live on a small grove ...12 houses... If I looked out of the window at night ans saw a youth standing by my wall wearing a hoodie I would consider that to be suspicious... But would I be right in my assumption...Would I be within my rights to go out and ask him what he was doing...Maybe waiting for a friend.. What if he told me to fuck off and mind my own business Would I get into a slanging match, a fight ... What would happen then and who would really be in the wrong in that situation... We can all speculate but really need to hear the facts... Are we gonna hear the facts though ... self preservation is a human trait and if you think you have made a big mistake and that you are gonna be severely punished for it will you lie your bollocks off to protect yourself :headscratch: :headscratch:


Again this is all speculation. We dont know if he was acting suspiciously. This is hear say.
Trayvon was not standing, he was on the phone to his girlfriend while walking. reportedly
That is what you think may of happened. Thats cool
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PostFri Apr 13, 2012 9:43 pm » by Constabul


Zimmerman, That Racist, Trying to help a homeless black man, who was unjustly beaten.. Wait whut? Help a black man?....
In late 2010 and early 2011 George Zimmerman, the Hispanic Sanford, Fla., man who shot and killed 17-year-old black teen Trayvon Martin, publicly demanded discipline in a race-related beating case for at least two of the police officers who cleared him after the Feb. 26 altercation, according to records obtained by The Daily Caller.

In a letter to Seminole County NAACP president Turner Clayton, a member of the Zimmerman family wrote that George was one of “very few” in Sanford who publicly condemned the “beating of the black homeless man Sherman Ware on Dec. 4, 2010, by the son of a Sanford police officer,” who is white.

TheDC has confirmed the identity of the Zimmerman family member who wrote the letter but is withholding that person’s specific identity out of concern for the family’s safety.

On Dec. 4, 2010, Justin Collison, the son of Sanford Police Department Lt. Chris Collison, was involved in a bar fight at The Wet Spot bar in Sanford. During the fight, which moved from indoors to outdoors, the younger Collison struck Ware.

Ware suffered a concussion, and paramedics took him to the hospital shortly after police arrived on the scene. Collison was not arrested or charged, even though an onlooker had video evidence of his actions.

No arrest was made and no action taken for weeks. Documents and emails now show police officers and officials from the office of the State Attorney operated with extreme caution because Collison’s father was a high-ranking law enforcement officer.

In the final days of 2010, an Orlando television station aired the video footage of Justin Collison beating Ware. Collison turned himself in six days later, on Jan. 3, 2011. He agreed to pay for Ware’s medical bills and make donations to nonprofit organizations, including the NAACP. (RELATED: Full coverage of the Trayvon Martin shooting)

After Justin Collison surrendered himself to authorities, the Sanford Police Department struggled to hold its officials accountable. A lengthy investigation conducted by the Seminole County Sheriff’s Office concluded that the police officials involved did not offer Justin Collison “preferential treatment.”

Still, according to members of the Zimmerman family, George printed and distributed copies of fliers on bright fluorescent-colored paper demanding that the community “hold accountable” officers responsible for any misconduct. TheDC has obtained a copy of one of those fliers.

“Do you know the individual that stepped up when no one else in the black community would?” the Zimmerman family member asked in the letter to the NAACP’s Clayton.

“Do you know who spent tireless hours putting fliers on the cars of persons parked in the churches of the black community? Do you know who waited for the church‐goers to get out of church so that he could hand them fliers in an attempt to organize the black community against this horrible miscarriage of justice? Do you know who helped organize the City Hall meeting on January 8th, 2011 at Sanford City Hall??”

“That person was GEORGE ZIMMERMAN,” the letter insisted. “Ironic isn’t it?”

Every Sunday, according to his family, Zimmerman would stroll through Sanford’s black neighborhoods handing out the fliers demanding justice for Sherman Ware, and calling for the police to hold their own officials accountable. Zimmerman would also place the fliers on people’s cars outside churches.

“I challenge you to stand together and to have our voices heard, and to hold accountable all of those officers, and officials whom let this atrocious attack pass unpunished until the media revealed it,” one of the fliers reads in part. “This animal could have attacked anyone of us, our children or loved ones in his alcohol fueled rage.”

The officers whom Zimmerman targeted for accountability in the Sherman Ware incident were all cleared by the Seminole County Sheriff’s investigation, despite Zimmerman’s repeated accusations that police gave kid-glove treatment to a white officer’s son who beat a defenseless, homeless black man.

But 14 months later, at least two of the same officers investigated the shooting death of Trayvon Martin — and cleared Zimmerman — even though his voice was the loudest calling for their punishment in the Ware case.

One of those officers was Timothy Smith. According to a police incident report from the scene of the Feb. 26 shooting, Officer Smith handcuffed Zimmerman and transported him to the police station. Another was Sergeant Anthony Raimondo, who was on scene with Smith and other local officers.

At least one liberal media outlet — the self-described African-American news outlet NewsOne — has framed the story in a different light.

On March 19, NewsOne argued that the Sherman Ware incident illustrates a pattern of mistreatment of black victims by the Sanford Police Department.

”They [Sanford police] have a history of NOT arresting offenders who assault black men,” the article’s author declared.

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I'm stop contributing to this, before i start name calling, to some people i enjoy interacting with on here. One last thing tho, 17 is the number before 18, 18 is the age you need to be to join the military. Look at crime statistics. 17 is not a child, 17 is not an age of innocence.
17 and 6'3 is not a kid.
Their mind my not be as matured as others, but there are people in their 30s and 40s+ you could say the same thing about.
yup, a young man was shot, but guess wut, there have been 1000s of more deaths since this, and many in more unjust ways, and reasons then this one.

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PostFri Apr 13, 2012 9:46 pm » by Noentry


spock wrote:
noentry wrote:How do you know this is not a racial crime.
Did you speak to Zimmerman?
Your bullshit is just as bullshity as mine
I have said what I think happened and why.
So have you.

like it has been mentioned before we will learn the truth during the case.
:mrcool:



Simple, according to people that know him (Including Black People) that say he is not racist.

It sounds more like you hope he is a racist. The real racism and need for turmoil by you love and light libs is always brutally apparent to everyone but you.


Please spock, you have been affected by the Bubba effect.
You dont know this for sure, the way I do not know for sure he is not.

Anyways I am of to church for Orthodox Easter. A week later this year
Have a good evening and a happy Orthodox Easter. Gotta give the kids the chance to choose, know what I mean
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PostFri Apr 13, 2012 9:47 pm » by Fatdogmendoza


noentry wrote:
fatdogmendoza wrote:
noentry wrote:1, Zimmerman followed the boy because he was black
2, the hoodie.
3, Trayvon was acting suspiciously, allegedly, this is hear say.

But you are all right when it goes to court we will know what happened.
In the end we are speculating.
That what we do isn't it :headscratch:


I live on a small grove ...12 houses... If I looked out of the window at night ans saw a youth standing by my wall wearing a hoodie I would consider that to be suspicious... But would I be right in my assumption...Would I be within my rights to go out and ask him what he was doing...Maybe waiting for a friend.. What if he told me to fuck off and mind my own business Would I get into a slanging match, a fight ... What would happen then and who would really be in the wrong in that situation... We can all speculate but really need to hear the facts... Are we gonna hear the facts though ... self preservation is a human trait and if you think you have made a big mistake and that you are gonna be severely punished for it will you lie your bollocks off to protect yourself :headscratch: :headscratch:


Again this is all speculation. We dont know if he was acting suspiciously. This is hear say.
Trayvon was not standing, he was on the phone to his girlfriend while walking. reportedly
That is what you think may of happened. Thats cool
:cheers:


soz mate... I should have stated that this is just an example of how people have become so tied up in the fact that a youth in a hoodie particularly a black youth can be mistaken for being suspicious for no real particular reason...... except personal interpretation... :cheers:

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PostFri Apr 13, 2012 9:54 pm » by Poooooot


spock wrote:As far as this being a "black" thing, that is bullshit, and that is the entire reason Rydher and I both have been hounding this point from the beginning. This entire case wouldn't have near the captivation it has today if it were not for the media and black community jumping on the "white on black" hate crime band wagon.

With all due respect, Spock... I have to disagree.

Race was never an issue to me (personally). From the moment I heard about this news story, (which was almost immediately, contrary to what some people say about it not being until after President Obama commented on it), I have been following it. (When I said thie issue is close to my heart, it's because I have family in that area). It is frustrating that people assume that just because someone isn't jumping up and down to defend a killer, that they are taking what the media is saying as gospel. When I have not. In fact, I make a conscious effort to NOT listen to one side of the msm or the other, but to absorb as much information as I can and come to my own conclusions. Probably why I spend too much time on the internet.

It upsets me off when people say that I am only "siding with Treyvon because he is black." That's bullshit. I am empathetic to a family that lost their child because of Zimmerman's decision to ignore law enforecement advise, and deciding to take the law into his own hands. Race is not, and never has been an issue in my life.

The fact that there are people defending Zimmerman so hard, while ignoring a lot of the information out there, is worrisome. Especially because, no matter what the outcome, there is a dead child involved, and a family in shambles.
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PostFri Apr 13, 2012 9:59 pm » by Noentry


And to you fatdog my friend
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PostFri Apr 13, 2012 10:16 pm » by Eliakim


poooooot wrote:
spock wrote:As far as this being a "black" thing, that is bullshit, and that is the entire reason Rydher and I both have been hounding this point from the beginning. This entire case wouldn't have near the captivation it has today if it were not for the media and black community jumping on the "white on black" hate crime band wagon.

With all due respect, Spock... I have to disagree.

Race was never an issue to me (personally). From the moment I heard about this news story, (which was almost immediately, contrary to what some people say about it not being until after President Obama commented on it), I have been following it. (When I said thie issue is close to my heart, it's because I have family in that area). It is frustrating that people assume that just because someone isn't jumping up and down to defend a killer, that they are taking what the media is saying as gospel. When I have not. In fact, I make a conscious effort to NOT listen to one side of the msm or the other, but to absorb as much information as I can and come to my own conclusions. Probably why I spend too much time on the internet.

It upsets me off when people say that I am only "siding with Treyvon because he is black." That's bullshit. I am empathetic to a family that lost their child because of Zimmerman's decision to ignore law enforecement advise, and deciding to take the law into his own hands. Race is not, and never has been an issue in my life.

The fact that there are people defending Zimmerman so hard, while ignoring a lot of the information out there, is worrisome. Especially because, no matter what the outcome, there is a dead child involved, and a family in shambles.



Well as the previous post stated, being months from the age of joining the army is not a child. Also an innocent child does not attack the neighborhood watch or anyone for that matter.

I read at Breitpart Media that George was heading for his car about to drive home when he was attacked. The attack was made on him not the other way around.

When I have been in what one could call a vulnerable position in my teens, I run fast to the first house that had a light on to help me. If you seriously think that George is the kind of person that would attack anyone, best you think again.

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PostFri Apr 13, 2012 10:30 pm » by Flecktarn


kids today have no respect ,,round my was kids of 12, 13, 14 ,15 would quite happily stab or rob you just for fun and this has happened on many occasions a stabbing last Tuesday was done buy a 14 year old ,and the police caught him still carrying the knife and the attack was also caught on cctv ,,so anyone naive enough to thinks kids are not capable of such things needs to get in touch with reality ,,,
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