Troll2rocks - PROMETHEUS - In Depth Review - SPOILERS AHEAD!

Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:59 pm » by **Evildweeb**

Troll2rocks wrote:Finally I want to make it clear that I am able to understand how editing works, and I am telling you this movie has been trimmed down from a much longer running time, which has effected the narrative to the point of breaking it, as for all the controversy surrounding its rating. It got an R however the version I saw was uncut anyway, and I am telling you that the studios have trimmed out the gore in certain scenes. It is noticeable too. I guarantee you all there will be an extended directors cut as Ridley Scott always does that with his films. That is the version I want to see, I never want to see the theatrical version of Prometheus again. It is severely compromised. I would bet my house that Ridley has a much longer and far more graphic version of this film. I will await the Blu Ray.

This is the most telling part of the entire article.

In the original ALIENS (part 2 of the saga), the story was so on top of its game, I believe it is why 99% of the fans went over the top with the franchise.

But even then, in the early days, I had a sense something in the story was either cut out or missing.

It wasn't until much later when the director's cut came out that we discovered THE MISSING 40 MINUTES OF STORY FOOTAGE.

My god those bastards at the studio are ruthless a-hole two-faced backstabbing undercutters.

I felt so gypped after having bought the original Aliens movie (theatrical version) that from then on I swore I would no longer purchase another movie on DVD or whatever, until the director's cut came out (unless it was so stupendous it simply forced me to suffer what I already knew was going to happen later).

If this is what happened to Prometheus, I won't set foot in a theater at all to see it, and I'll simply wait another year or two until they pull their collective heads out their asses and release the director's cut.

Sad, very very sad.

Thanks Troll and cheers from the depressed Dweeb world.....lol

:cheers:

Sat Jun 02, 2012 3:14 pm » by **Andyg2011**

I hate carrot head or carrot top whatever the tWXXs name is i feel like slappin him everytime i see him,has anybody else noticed on the trailer for this on tv the sound sounds like the noises heard all round the world recently or is it just me

Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:11 pm » by **Headhunter711**

Good Evening...
As a fan who can remember seeing "Alien" at it's FIRST SHOWING in my area in June of '79 if memory serves, and someone who was somewhat disappointed at James Cameron's sequel, your critique ALARMS
me to no end. That being said, it is still likely that there is a seat waiting for me in an I-max theater this coming weekend.
If yor assessment is even remotely accurate , (and it probably is), you will be witness to my first true rant
on this site!! :shooting:

Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:29 pm » by **Starphazer**

Troll is a knuckle head.I remember when he first came on the scene as a different member.Hows that working out for ya troll? or should i call you the experiment?What was the point of all of that?This guy is a tool,give me any of the other mod any day.

Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:33 pm » by **Seahawk**

This is creepy! Another viral promotion for the film???

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Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:52 pm » by **Mob 2,0**

Cool Short Film

VESSEL - A short film by Clark Baker

Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:56 am » by **Electrobadgr**

Troll2rocks wrote:

Well before you read this, be warned. This review is going to spoil key aspects of Prometheus. So please if you live stateside, or anywhere in the world where this is not playing in theatres yet, avoid this review. Actually you may want to avoid the internet altogether for the time being.

READ ON AT YOUR OWN RISK

This creature above. Do not get your hopes up for it appearing in Prometheus in a form that is recognisable. Unless... Well I won't spoil that. It spoils itself!

So, I have not long come back from seeing Prometheus in the best presentation I could, in IMAX no less.

Right off the bat I can tell you that the 3D adds nothing to the story of this film, (even though it was shot with the best native 3D camera systems available) It is not a patch on the 3D that was accomplished in AVATAR. Not in the least. There are a few sequences that kinda work in 3D. However I was watching the whole time waiting for the wow 3D. It never really happened though. Although, it is my sad duty to report that the 3D in Prometheus is the least of its problems.

The narrative of Prometheus could be written in one sentence. The problems with it would take a novel.

Let me explain. I have followed this movie from its inception as a two part Alien prequel, right through to it morphing into a stand alone feature set in the same universe as the original Alien and Aliens. Now after all the speculation and hype surrounding this movie, which reached fever pitch with the launch of the initial teaser trailer. I can confirm to you, that this is indeed a stand alone film it is NOT an Alien prequel. Now I have no problem with this. I like original stories from visionary directors known to flourish within certain genres. The problem here, is three fold...

1, The fan base of the Alien saga have taken it upon themselves to hype this film up beyond all reason, much like The Phantom Menace. Actually that is a good comparison in terms of mismatched narratives and alternate tones of story.

2, The studio, 20th Century Fox have taken it upon themselves to sell this movie as a lie. Most of the shots from the trailer are alternate takes and dialogue, the tone of the trailer is misleading and sets it up to be an Alien prequel. It is NOT!

3, there is no ending, this is a set up movie with a completely implausible ending. I will get to that later.

Also of note, is that Prometheus is not scary at all or even tense to watch.

Now having just seen it in its best form (IMAX - Uncut), I can not say it is a bad bad film. However I would not recommned seeing it in 3D. As I was not impressed even at IMAX, your standard theatres 3D will not be anywhere near as effective. So IMAX it or do not bother with the 3D.

The story, you must all be aware about it by now, its about a ship sent out to discover the origins of man after several cave paintings from all over the world are found with a star system configuration pointing to one location. Now after a third act twist that takes place this makes no sense whatsoever. Spoiler... it turns out that is not the "engineers home world" but rather, a military outpost where they store biological weapons. Sigh. Why fucking point it out at all ? Considering that it is even mentioned in the movie that this planet LV-223 is in the middle of nowhere and was apparently not wanted to be found. So again, if they did not want this stuff messed with AT ALL, then why point it out all over the fucking Earth then ? WTF!

That is the basic level of attention to detail that Prometheus suffers. Its all cosmetic. The story comes from the guy behind LOST. There is a major hint at the problems therein.

There is no character development, its style over substance, Apart from a few key players. Michael Fassbender's David owns this movie, luckily he is a major player and gets a lot of screen time, its a fantastically creepy and agenda driven performance (dum dum daaaaahh). Truly great. Idris Elba gives a strong performance too, along with both Rappace and Theron. Also of note is Guy Pearce who gives a strong performance as Peter Weyland in some pretty decent make up prosthetics.

Now I am going to get to the meat and potatoes of the problems with this film. On a grand scale it makes zero sense. It looks really pretty. It has all the ingredients of a science fiction movie. However the best way to describe Prometheus I think is that it is basically hollow.

I think that Event Horizon has a deeper story than Prometheus. Event Horizon while a similar movie, is actually far more effective. It is an absolute tragedy to compare that movie to this and say well I have to admit Event Horizon was more effective, that pisses me off no end. To turn the Alien universe, and make it feel more like an episode of Star Trek The Next Generation on a much bigger budget. From the opening moments... SPOILERS!!!... The beginning of time (on earth ? it never actually makes it clear) with a guy that looks 95% human, also known as one of the Engineers. He drinks from a metallic cup next to a fountain and starts to disintegrate, falls over the cliff and rots in the water. (cue titles)

PROMETHEUS.

WTF ?

Erm, WTF IS THIS ???????

I sat there watching it after seeing that guy that looks like a bald Carrot Top

"SHUDDER"

I started to worry.

For what reason did that happen ? Its DNA apparently starts to reform in the water, why ? The start of a new ecosystem ? It does not explain! Not that any movie needs to explain itself, ALIEN itself works best because there was an air of mystery and mythology surrounding it with big questions left unanswered. However those questions were clear (who is that guy in the chair ?) in this its less clear what the fuck is going on. Which brings us to the problems with Prometheus which attempts the same, it does not work. It tries however, but what it does try to explain with respect to the ancient race of Engineer's one of which was fossilised in that big chair in the original Alien, it destroys. Completely. Who wanted those creatures to be....SPOILER! Humans that look like Carrot Top after a serious binge on radiotherapy ?.

Seriously, it is not great. The creatures in Prometheus of which there are very few, which are only briefly seen, look like they belong to another universe. H R Gigar must not have had any input in the design of them, as they hold no likeness at all to that which is to come, apart from one half arsed attempt in the last minute of the movie.

Now I will not spoil the major events of Prometheus, as that is not fair, all I would say is, imagine the most obvious ending you could think of, pulled off in extremely poor CGI quality. Yes it truly is the one you are thinking of, and yes its that kind of bad. I never imagined they would do that, it was to obvious, it is too cheesy. However it happened anyway.

Also when you get to that part it will confuse you further because what appears looks far inferior (and different) to a similar design.

Here are my major problems with the movie.

There is no self contained story. It ends but there is no ending. Now how and why would that happen, well somewhere along the line I would imagine that when the original straight up Alien prequel was pitched it was given a franchise story arc, however Ridley Scott and Damon Lindelof decided to go a new route, however rather than just go completely off centre they decided to skirt around the edges and keep certain elements of this two part story. Meaning that there is no ending, its all set up. Its like they skipped the Matrix and went straight into Reloaded. I have not seen an ending this bad since The Matrix Reloaded either, and aptly enough, Alien vs Predator. I would not be surprised if it was actually a last minute addition due to the fact that it was tracking strong and they are ensured a franchise. However, that is the problem, there is no really satisfying experience to be had with Prometheus because it is not a self contained story and everything is left unanswered and that which you watched was just okay but that which it did answer, was NOT. I would see another, but only because I feel that I have watched something incomplete.

That for me is a bad movie going experience, paying for a film that could not be even considered a singular instalment in a franchise. Its just insulting really. I wanted a story not a chapter of one. Also making it coherent would have been nice. Less chopping and editing would have worked wonders I think.

When you see Prometheus, and lets face it most of you will, go in with your expectations seriously low. You may come through it with a greater feeling of satisfaction that way, although I was not expecting a masterpiece, but I was expecting a coherent narrative mixed with a compelling premise (the premise is great) the exploration is great. Everything else is just, things happening on the screen.

Fassbender owns the movie. There will be another, I can not see this flopping. The trailers were to strong. However that is the downfall, the trailers mis-sold this movie. It is not the intense experience you were expecting, there is nothing scary whatsoever at all. There are no tense moments bar one, which I won't spoil as the trailers already have. What aliens there are, are so completely removed from the Alien universe (the universe its set in by the way) that it makes its setting redundant. I think the trailers showed near enough all of the creatures including the amount of running time they have in the movie.

However, my biggest problem is this, and its simple. Where was the fucking awe and wonder ?

Hopefully the next one will be better. However with source material like this, it may be difficult.

Very disappointed. Should have been great not okay.

However it is worth it for the performance from Michael Fassbender.

It is a shame that I have focussed this review on the negative aspects, however it is best to crush your expectations now, this is no classic sci fi movie, even if the premise is fantastic. The execution is not.

Finally I want to make it clear that I am able to understand how editing works, and I am telling you this movie has been trimmed down from a much longer running time, which has effected the narrative to the point of breaking it, as for all the controversy surrounding its rating. It got an R however the version I saw was uncut anyway, and I am telling you that the studios have trimmed out the gore in certain scenes. It is noticeable too. I guarantee you all there will be an extended directors cut as Ridley Scott always does that with his films. That is the version I want to see, I never want to see the theatrical version of Prometheus again. It is severely compromised. I would bet my house that Ridley has a much longer and far more graphic version of this film. I will await the Blu Ray.

5 Snake Vaginas Out of 10.

Having just experienced the same disappointment i wholeheartedly agree with every word, i was going to add my own thought but honhestly i couldn't have put it better myself. The biggest missed opportunity possibly ever, with 30years since Alien you would have thought he (Ridley Scott) would have fleshed out at least a single element of this seemingly empty vessel, perhaps further viewing will expose some inexplicable black slime i didn't notice 1st time round ... :headscratch:

Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:45 am » by **-Marduk-**

Is there already a stream link out there in the interwebs? Cant wait to see it...in Germany i´ll have to wait one more frakking month before it comes out

Plz feel free to PM me!!!

@Troll
Great movie review :flop:

Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:06 pm » by **Troll2rocks**

Marduk2012 wrote:Is there already a stream link out there in the interwebs? Cant wait to see it...in Germany i´ll have to wait one more frakking month before it comes out

Plz feel free to PM me!!!

@Troll
Great movie review

Thanks man. :cheers:

Here read up on Prometheus here :wink:

http://movie25.com/movies/prometheus-2012.html

Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:20 pm » by **-Marduk-**

Troll2rocks wrote:Here read up on Prometheus here

http://movie25.com/movies/prometheus-2012.html

Thank YOU brah :flop:

Already found one today...itz a crappy cam version and buffering lazy as hell...im at 1:22:58 when Shaw begins the self surgery.

Till now, I have to admit ...I enjoy the movie so far. :peep: