Two Excellent UFO Videos: ROSWELL and Jerusalem hover

Website · Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:06 am » by **Eschat**

UFO Vidoes

This video above has still frames and moving footage of Alien little Bob released by someone 7 months ago. Many have called it a hoax even though many CGI experts say they cannot duplicate it. The intention of this video is to point out things most overlook when viewing the footage such as the 1940 era weight and height scale. Be sure to watch this video full screen as well. If you do you will even see eyelashes on the large eyelids of this alien. Really you can see them if you watch it full screen. If that sounds crazy to you then you need to watch for that seriously all the more.

The second video below has also been called a hoax. Some have said this UFO was placed on top of a still frame of a picture of the dome of the rock. They argue that the lights are not flickering and there are no cars moving. At the :18 :20 mark of this video just to right of the UFO a light on the hill flickers as well as a few others. At the same point in the video (17-21 seconds) a car turns right around a corner. You will see that at the bottom right of the video on the street. It is very brief but you can clearly see the it is a moving car with it's headlights on turning right around a street corner.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFNPa-SR65k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM56l5s4aqA

Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:10 am » by **Rahkriga**

Cmon man...really? The first vid...cmon..thats a total hoax. You say in the description that cgi artists couldnt reproduce it...thats FULL BULLSHIT!!! Go to a technical art college and go to their maya / zbrush classes and see what type of laughter you get for saying that crap. You only exposed the fact that you dont whats possible with cgi. The second video is an obvious hoax. Considering the fact that ALL vids from Jerusalem have been hoaxed for religious reasons and other reasons..this one isnt any different, and can easily be created with maya and after effects. Both of these vids have been posted here in these forms sooooooooooooo many times....why bring them back? Especially when theres no new information. As ufologist thats been researching ufos for over 20 years now...I have to say these are by far the WORST examples of ufos and aliens. These vids are just fodder for skeptics and they actually validate the skeptics arguments. Lets pretend these are real. What would it change? NOT A DAMN THING!!

Seriously.. Cant we all just stop posting known hoaxes?? Theres real sightings taking place right now..theres new and REAL vids being uploaded right now that show truth...but you guys rather post the most outlandish crap you can find. You're are literally killing the efforts of real ufologists that take this subject seriously.

Website · Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:38 am » by **Eschat**

rahkriga wrote:Cmon man...really? The first vid...cmon..thats a total hoax. You say in the description that cgi artists couldnt reproduce it...thats FULL BULLSHIT!!! Go to a technical art college and go to their maya / zbrush classes and see what type of laughter you get for saying that crap. You only exposed the fact that you dont whats possible with cgi. The second video is an obvious hoax. Considering the fact that ALL vids from Jerusalem have been hoaxed for religious reasons and other reasons..this one isnt any different, and can easily be created with maya and after effects. Both of these vids have been posted here in these forms sooooooooooooo many times....why bring them back? Especially when theres no new information. As ufologist thats been researching ufos for over 20 years now...I have to say these are by far the WORST examples of ufos and aliens. These vids are just fodder for skeptics and they actually validate the skeptics arguments. Lets pretend these are real. What would it change? NOT A DAMN THING!!

Seriously.. Cant we all just stop posting known hoaxes?? Theres real sightings taking place right now..theres new and REAL vids being uploaded right now that show truth...but you guys rather post the most outlandish crap you can find. You're are literally killing the efforts of real ufologists that take this subject seriously.

Actully you're the one who does not know what he is talking about. You are the type of person that has his own image of what an alien is supposed to look like. You live in the world of "Men in Black" and Star Trek.

Go talk to your CGI friends and have him make the video. I have issued this challenge all over You Tube, especially to those talking bull like you did here. 3 months still nothing from any of them, 3 more months and there will be nothing from you, or your expert friends either. Prove me wrong have them recreate it. You won't because you can't or you will make some lame excuse like all the other ones I have talked too.

As far as UFOs are conserned don't worry it will not be long before they pop in and stop us after limited nuclear war starts in the middle east. We will all think they are our friends then won't we? I suggest when they do finally stop us that you don't end up trusting them.

There will be no need when that time comes very soon to prove they exist. We will all know then, that is why there are so many sightings in the first place. This so we are not surprised when they finally come and say HEY STUIPID HUMANITY since you have started nuking each other we have decided to make you do it our way.

And who cares if these videos were posted here a few months back. I would hope Disclose TV would have a few thousand new members or at least a few hundred new people who have not seen these videos. Since when was Disclose TV all about you and only you?

Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:45 am » by **Cia212**

eschat wrote:
rahkriga wrote:Cmon man...really? The first vid...cmon..thats a total hoax. You say in the description that cgi artists couldnt reproduce it...thats FULL BULLSHIT!!! Go to a technical art college and go to their maya / zbrush classes and see what type of laughter you get for saying that crap. You only exposed the fact that you dont whats possible with cgi. The second video is an obvious hoax. Considering the fact that ALL vids from Jerusalem have been hoaxed for religious reasons and other reasons..this one isnt any different, and can easily be created with maya and after effects. Both of these vids have been posted here in these forms sooooooooooooo many times....why bring them back? Especially when theres no new information. As ufologist thats been researching ufos for over 20 years now...I have to say these are by far the WORST examples of ufos and aliens. These vids are just fodder for skeptics and they actually validate the skeptics arguments. Lets pretend these are real. What would it change? NOT A DAMN THING!!

Seriously.. Cant we all just stop posting known hoaxes?? Theres real sightings taking place right now..theres new and REAL vids being uploaded right now that show truth...but you guys rather post the most outlandish crap you can find. You're are literally killing the efforts of real ufologists that take this subject seriously.

Actully you're the one who does not know what he is talking about. You are the type of person that has his own image of what an alien is supposed to look like. You live in the world of "Men in Black" and Star Trek.

Go talk to your CGI friends and have him make the video.

Actually, rahkriga is exactly correct. These videos are debunked on DTV in several places. And, if the youtube poster believed they were real, why not allow comments?

As for the CGI, the ufo is CGI, the "alien" is probably a physical puppet. And I don't have to duplicate it to know it can be done...the same way I don't have to design an airplane to know it can be done. Only someone with no life has time to waste duplicating every horrible video that comes along. Same goes for the losers who create these fakes in the first place.

Website · Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:17 pm » by **Eschat**

cia212 wrote:
eschat wrote:
rahkriga wrote:Cmon man...really? The first vid...cmon..thats a total hoax. You say in the description that cgi artists couldnt reproduce it...thats FULL BULLSHIT!!! Go to a technical art college and go to their maya / zbrush classes and see what type of laughter you get for saying that crap. You only exposed the fact that you dont whats possible with cgi. The second video is an obvious hoax. Considering the fact that ALL vids from Jerusalem have been hoaxed for religious reasons and other reasons..this one isnt any different, and can easily be created with maya and after effects. Both of these vids have been posted here in these forms sooooooooooooo many times....why bring them back? Especially when theres no new information. As ufologist thats been researching ufos for over 20 years now...I have to say these are by far the WORST examples of ufos and aliens. These vids are just fodder for skeptics and they actually validate the skeptics arguments. Lets pretend these are real. What would it change? NOT A DAMN THING!!

Seriously.. Cant we all just stop posting known hoaxes?? Theres real sightings taking place right now..theres new and REAL vids being uploaded right now that show truth...but you guys rather post the most outlandish crap you can find. You're are literally killing the efforts of real ufologists that take this subject seriously.

Actully you're the one who does not know what he is talking about. You are the type of person that has his own image of what an alien is supposed to look like. You live in the world of "Men in Black" and Star Trek.

Go talk to your CGI friends and have him make the video.

Actually, rahkriga is exactly correct. These videos are debunked on DTV in several places. And, if the youtube poster believed they were real, why not allow comments?

As for the CGI, the ufo is CGI, the "alien" is probably a physical puppet. And I don't have to duplicate it to know it can be done...the same way I don't have to design an airplane to know it can be done. Only someone with no life has time to waste duplicating every horrible video that comes along. Same goes for the losers who create these fakes in the first place.
As for the CGI, the ufo is CGI, the "alien" is probably a physical puppet. And I don't have to duplicate it to know it can be done...the same way I don't have to design an airplane to know it can be done. Only someone with no life has time to waste duplicating every horrible video that comes along. Same goes for the losers who create these fakes in the first place.

It cannot be done not with EffectsLab Pro, 3D Studio Max and Not even Abobe After Effects, the reason because it is film not video. It is not pixilated as video pixelates, film footage has pixelation that is random, it can be checked with the proper software mathematically like a fingerprint. No over the counter not even at $10,000 a lic. movie grade software can create completely random overlays that will not repeat and be detectable to a professional. Software could be created to do that but the mathematical routine and software array to make it truly random would be a job of enormous work. No company, not even of the major film studios invest in those things. Why, no point to do so, they can age their movie with simple non random overlays with just a few lines of code. Why do that for a real movie they will never use it on. Also even on a regular film age overlay you would still have to film the puppet, add the first overlay which is the timer at the bottom, then the next overlay of part of it being blotted out. That is three overlays to blend already, then you have to age it with one more overly and then render it. Every serious video or movie maker knows that the minute you digitize film footage or even HD video footage you lose from 4 to 7 percent of the resolution of the video per overlay when trying to create an effect like this.

Yet in spite of this you can still clearly see eyelashes on the alien if you use full screen. The aliens tendons move exactly when the fingers move. That could be done but for it to work the creation of the puppet would have to exceed anything created yet. The forehead and jaw skin move and retract like real skin. That is one really expensive puppet. Back to the overlays, there are multiple overlays in this video that are embedded on the film by light not software, which means it was film to start with not video or CGI. Trying to explain this is like trying to explain to a novice the layers on a PDF Adobe document. The average person who play with their Mac's and their software on their PC's have almost no knowledge on how to detect forgeries in anything, because they have no real depth those who do forgeries can get away with it. Same principle here, people think anything can be done with software, not a chance but for most it would take 3 years to teach them enough to know how to know in the first place.

Lastly even if a person spent the enormous amount of money that would be required to create the software to create this hoax, (currently that software does not exist) what would be the point. People play with their software and make aliens heads or really glossy color Alien hoax videos and think they are experts and they duplicate this video.

What is amazing to me is not that this video is rejected as being true, but rather people like you that know almost nothing about the tools of the trade talking like you know something.

Now that is what I call a loser. I did not come here to convince anyone but rather to cause people that read to dig a little deeper for the truth about everything, especially when listening to talking heads like you. I don't care if they believe me, I only care that they do there own research and think deeper. They can watch Judge Judy or Paris Hilton or what else floats their boat some other day.

Lastly what is with you CIA user name? Only a wanna be with who is a loser that could never make it in the real CIA in real life or you are actually are the CIA. Crack me up what people do these days in either case.

Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:39 pm » by **Cia212**

eschat wrote:
cia212 wrote:
eschat wrote:
Actully you're the one who does not know what he is talking about. You are the type of person that has his own image of what an alien is supposed to look like. You live in the world of "Men in Black" and Star Trek.

Go talk to your CGI friends and have him make the video.

Actually, rahkriga is exactly correct. These videos are debunked on DTV in several places. And, if the youtube poster believed they were real, why not allow comments?

As for the CGI, the ufo is CGI, the "alien" is probably a physical puppet. And I don't have to duplicate it to know it can be done...the same way I don't have to design an airplane to know it can be done. Only someone with no life has time to waste duplicating every horrible video that comes along. Same goes for the losers who create these fakes in the first place. As for the CGI, the ufo is CGI, the "alien" is probably a physical puppet. And I don't have to duplicate it to know it can be done...the same way I don't have to design an airplane to know it can be done. Only someone with no life has time to waste duplicating every horrible video that comes along. Same goes for the losers who create these fakes in the first place.

It cannot be done not with EffectsLab Pro, 3D Studio Max and Not even Abobe After Effects, the reason because it is film not video.

Reread my post, I said the alien was a puppet...which could be filmed. But, random film effects can be done - even in After Effects. And the ufo was horrible CGI - it's made from a photograph of the city, not actual video. You can tell this because there is no parallax when the camera is "moving".

But, believe these are real if you'd like.

Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:09 pm » by **Zegtelzegtel**

Some good parts in the first vid..don't really believe in the alien part though..

the second vid about the Jerusalem ufo is bs and was first released by the allnewsweb whores if I'm right.

cia212 wrote:But, believe these are real if you'd like.

Website · Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:10 pm » by **Eschat**

cia212 wrote:
eschat wrote:
Actully you're the one who does not know what he is talking about. You are the type of person that has his own image of what an alien is supposed to look like. You live in the world of "Men in Black" and Star Trek.

Go talk to your CGI friends and have him make the video.

As for the CGI, the ufo is CGI, the "alien" is probably a physical puppet. And I don't have to duplicate it to know it can be done...the same way I don't have to design an airplane to know it can be done. Only someone with no life has time to waste duplicating every horrible video that comes along. Same goes for the losers who create these fakes in the first place. As for the CGI, the ufo is CGI, the "alien" is probably a physical puppet. And I don't have to duplicate it to know it can be done...the same way I don't have to design an airplane to know it can be done. Only someone with no life has time to waste duplicating every horrible video that comes along. Same goes for the losers who create these fakes in the first place.

It cannot be done not with EffectsLab Pro, 3D Studio Max and Not even Abobe After Effects, the reason because it is film not video.

Reread my post, I said the alien was a puppet...which could be filmed. But, random film effects can be done - even in After Effects. And the ufo was horrible CGI - it's made from a photograph of the city, not actual video. You can tell this because there is no parallax when the camera is "moving".

But, believe these are real if you'd like.

The NPP does not apply to this portion of the video. Someone combined some of the old Hitler or so-called Hilter footage with this video. They are not from the same source but were put together as disinformation after the release of the original footage. What you are talking about is what was released after for distraction purposes.

Since you did not answer me on my CIA comment let me give a little rant.

If you actually are in the CIA I would tell Panetta that Iran is playing him. The Red and Blue computer war games in 2006 where America lost 16 ships in a battle with Iran because we did not take the lead. Forget about Russia and China, America needs to attack first to save our troops and our ships. Otherwise we need to get out of there completely and do it all by tactical nuke bunker busters. Because if we wait that is what Israel is going to do. War is coming no matter what, stop worry about China and Russia,. Either get real or get out, don't project power inside the straits, that is what Iran wants. You defeat the whole purpose and put our troops and ships in danger. Iran is not afriad, they should be but trust me when I tell you they are not. You are being set up, wage the war from Oman, not in the strait until you have destroyed their airforce and offesive missiles.

Oh I'm sorry your not CIA, your just a wanna be.

Thats ok they will read it anyway since they have been here forever, actually the NSA.

For those of you who do not know what I mean about the red and blue team war games don't wory the real CIA knows. I love America with all my heart and I don't want some stupid politian putting our troops in danger by trying to project power. There is no reason to be in the strait and there is no reason to allow Iran the first shot while we are in the strait with our ass in the wind when we can accomplish this completely from the gulf of Oman.

Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:29 pm » by **Liabilityzero**

Regurgitated, debunked waste of time.

Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:06 pm » by **Pitbulterrorist**

jarusalem vid is a well known fake but the first vid has a couple of good sightings and the rest are fake