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PostThu Aug 09, 2012 2:22 pm » by Pitchke


People kill people, guns are just a tool to do that.

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PostThu Aug 09, 2012 2:23 pm » by Harbin


Domeika wrote:
Harbin wrote:Oh yes. The gun nut answer to all gun violence:

Arm everyone. If everyone just had a CCL and CC'ed, everything would be ok.

Why not just pass an open carry for the entire country !?

Everybody goes out of the house with hip iron on. Ah what a wonderful idea !


How about you as an individual? Or me? If you, not some hypothetical group, but you, for no fault of your own, are put in harms way and only lethal force will save you. What then?

Whatever your beliefs are, I would never condemn you or anyone else for taking steps protect themselves. But if you don't believe in protecting yourself, why is it so important to denigrate those that do? Is a person wearing a life-jacket on a boat a life-jacket nut? Or in a car and wearing a seat-belt a seat-belt nut? Or is that reserved for this argument alone?



Life jackets and seat belts don't shoot anyone, these are safety devices. Spin isn't a solid intellectual position.

Do you carry ?
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PostThu Aug 09, 2012 2:46 pm » by Domeika


Pitchke wrote:People kill people, guns are just a tool to do that.


Yep, and we should lobby to ban all tools. Just look at what some people do with wrenches... :dancing:

Texas Woman Accused Of Beating Husband To Death With Wrench
http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/Texas_Woman_Accused_Of_Beating_Husband_To_Death_With_Wrench_160691075.html

Man beaten with wrench and hammer, suspect arrested
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=5831856

Rousillac woman beaten to death with wrench, male relative held
http://ctntworld.com/LocalArticles.aspx?id=43476

Police: Whitehall woman, 71, fatally beaten with wrench
http://www.wpxi.com/news/news/local/police-investigate-homicide-white-hall/nL54S/

Woman Allegedly Beat Mother With Plumbing Wrench
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/woman-allegedly-beat-mother-with-plumbing-wrench/nFCLC/

15-year-old accused of beating Naples High student with a wrench
http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2010/mar/05/15-year-old-accused-beating-naples-high-student-wr/

Woman, 89, beaten to death
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Woman__89__beaten_to_death-162492086.html

The list goes on and on, and I'm not even going to go into the horror caused by screwdrivers. :nails:

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PostThu Aug 09, 2012 2:48 pm » by Domeika


Harbin wrote:
Domeika wrote:
Harbin wrote:Oh yes. The gun nut answer to all gun violence:

Arm everyone. If everyone just had a CCL and CC'ed, everything would be ok.

Why not just pass an open carry for the entire country !?

Everybody goes out of the house with hip iron on. Ah what a wonderful idea !


How about you as an individual? Or me? If you, not some hypothetical group, but you, for no fault of your own, are put in harms way and only lethal force will save you. What then?

Whatever your beliefs are, I would never condemn you or anyone else for taking steps protect themselves. But if you don't believe in protecting yourself, why is it so important to denigrate those that do? Is a person wearing a life-jacket on a boat a life-jacket nut? Or in a car and wearing a seat-belt a seat-belt nut? Or is that reserved for this argument alone?



Life jackets and seat belts don't shoot anyone, these are safety devices. Spin isn't a solid intellectual position.

Do you carry ?


Yes I do, and I consider it a personal safety device.

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PostThu Aug 09, 2012 2:54 pm » by Spock


Harbin wrote:Oh yes. The gun nut answer to all gun violence:

Arm everyone. If everyone just had a CCL and CC'ed, everything would be ok.

Why not just pass an open carry for the entire country !?

Everybody goes out of the house with hip iron on. Ah what a wonderful idea !



That's the beauty of the "RIGHT" to bear arms, it's a personal decision. Therefore, you don't have to have one and the government is not going to force everyone to have one. In that regard, your logic is ridiculous, and tired, and typical.

If you are more concerned with possibly intruding on a bears cubs in the woods, and feel it is the mother bears god-given instinct to maul you to death, you can be devoured happily knowing that no government agency forced you to carry a firearm to inhumanely plug a cap right between Mama Bears eyes.

Likewise, you shouldn't feel obligated to protect yourself or your family from the unfortunate event that some crazed nerd decides he wants to enact the violent video game in real life. You can be turned to swiss cheese, but in good conscience as your final thoughts are focused on if that poor kid reached out for help months ago, and psychologists and police didn't react in time. That he must have had a bad outlook on life because his parents didn't instill a well grounded moral foundation and he was left to occupy himself in his bedroom, with his own faults that were heavily jaded from years of being bullied. At least you didn't enforce your will on that mentally raging child and maybe before either the cops put him down, or he rots in prison, he will have time to heal his inner child - but at least you never contributed to his downward spiral.

It takes a village! Right Harbin?

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PostThu Aug 09, 2012 3:10 pm » by Spock


Look at all the automobile fatalities, the nuts driving on the road, preoccupied kids texting, drunks, etc.

2,500 pound weapons of death in every citizens hands.

I think we should outlaw automobiles accept for government funded public transportation. Think of all the new jobs!

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PostThu Aug 09, 2012 3:22 pm » by Harbin


Spock wrote:Look at all the automobile fatalities, the nuts driving on the road, preoccupied kids texting, drunks, etc.

2,500 pound weapons of death in every citizens hands.

I think we should outlaw automobiles accept for government funded public transportation. Think of all the new jobs!


You are right ! Autos will be banned to the general public and community based transportation will be available to those qualified in the new smart growth zones.
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PostThu Aug 09, 2012 4:45 pm » by mediasorcery


well, go buy yourself a gun then harbin.
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PostThu Aug 09, 2012 6:22 pm » by Harbin


Domeika wrote:
Pitchke wrote:People kill people, guns are just a tool to do that.


Yep, and we should lobby to ban all tools. Just look at what some people do with wrenches... :dancing:

Texas Woman Accused Of Beating Husband To Death With Wrench
http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/Texas_Woman_Accused_Of_Beating_Husband_To_Death_With_Wrench_160691075.html

Man beaten with wrench and hammer, suspect arrested
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=5831856

Rousillac woman beaten to death with wrench, male relative held
http://ctntworld.com/LocalArticles.aspx?id=43476

Police: Whitehall woman, 71, fatally beaten with wrench
http://www.wpxi.com/news/news/local/police-investigate-homicide-white-hall/nL54S/

Woman Allegedly Beat Mother With Plumbing Wrench
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/woman-allegedly-beat-mother-with-plumbing-wrench/nFCLC/

15-year-old accused of beating Naples High student with a wrench
http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2010/mar/05/15-year-old-accused-beating-naples-high-student-wr/

Woman, 89, beaten to death
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Woman__89__beaten_to_death-162492086.html

The list goes on and on, and I'm not even going to go into the horror caused by screwdrivers. :nails:


See. It is well past time to pass wrench licensing and registration laws, along with restrictions and outright bans on the more dangerous types of wrenches. This is not frontier American any more.
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PostThu Aug 09, 2012 7:15 pm » by Domeika


Harbin wrote:
Domeika wrote:
Pitchke wrote:People kill people, guns are just a tool to do that.


Yep, and we should lobby to ban all tools. Just look at what some people do with wrenches... :dancing:

Texas Woman Accused Of Beating Husband To Death With Wrench
http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/Texas_Woman_Accused_Of_Beating_Husband_To_Death_With_Wrench_160691075.html

Man beaten with wrench and hammer, suspect arrested
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=5831856

Rousillac woman beaten to death with wrench, male relative held
http://ctntworld.com/LocalArticles.aspx?id=43476

Police: Whitehall woman, 71, fatally beaten with wrench
http://www.wpxi.com/news/news/local/police-investigate-homicide-white-hall/nL54S/

Woman Allegedly Beat Mother With Plumbing Wrench
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/woman-allegedly-beat-mother-with-plumbing-wrench/nFCLC/

15-year-old accused of beating Naples High student with a wrench
http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2010/mar/05/15-year-old-accused-beating-naples-high-student-wr/

Woman, 89, beaten to death
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Woman__89__beaten_to_death-162492086.html

The list goes on and on, and I'm not even going to go into the horror caused by screwdrivers. :nails:


See. It is well past time to pass wrench licensing and registration laws, along with restrictions and outright bans on the more dangerous types of wrenches. This is not frontier American any more.


Don't forget assault screw guns.... :dancing:

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