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S Fred Singer, leading US atmospheric physicist, coauthored a report, Climate Change Reconsidered, in June 2009, which challenged the scientific basis that global warming is either man-made or would have harmful effects. On his first visit to India, the 85-year-old Singer, who is professor emeritus of environmental science at University of Virginia, lights up the issue which created an uproar in December in Copenhagen, in an interview with DNA. Excerpts.

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To what extent is human activity responsible for changing climate?
In the 1900s, the climate warmed and cooled. The sun, changes in the earth’s orbit, continental drift caused it. It’s plausible that climate change in 20th century was natural. It’s also plausible that the changes were caused by humans. Carbon dioxide (CO2) has increased by 35% over the last 150 years. However, it’s (contribution) is only minute compared to natural causes. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) is 90-99% sure that the cause of 20th century warming is human activity. Many, including me, disagree. We believe causes are natural. :clapper:

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thanx drjones.do you think this gentleman's name carries enough clout to make a difference?god forbid that SOMEONE on this planet still listens to the voice of reason.

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thanx drjones.do you think this gentleman's name carries enough clout to make a difference?god forbid that SOMEONE on this planet still listens to the voice of reason.


Who knows m8,the co2 is bad agenda is going to roll on i feel,i can't see it being derailed,it's just been slowed down at the moment that's all.When it's part of the agenda they never quit... ;)

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thanx drjones.do you think this gentleman's name carries enough clout to make a difference?god forbid that SOMEONE on this planet still listens to the voice of reason.


Who knows m8,the co2 is bad agenda is going to roll on i feel,i can't see it being derailed,it's just been slowed down at the moment that's all.When it's part of the agenda they never quit... ;)



They will keep the spotlight off it for a while for the furore to die down and when the sheep have forgotten about it it will be put back to the top of the agenda so they can tax us some more.

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What I don't understand is why just because the legitimacy of human climate change is disputed, that means toxic chemicals are off the hook.

With all the uproar over "chemtrails," and bad things being dropped on us from above, shouldn't we be striving to push for cleaner energy sources anyway? I'm not a fan of breathing dirty car exhaust, to be honest.


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shadowkhas wrote:
What I don't understand is why just because the legitimacy of human climate change is disputed, that means toxic chemicals are off the hook.

With all the uproar over "chemtrails," and bad things being dropped on us from above, shouldn't we be striving to push for cleaner energy sources anyway? I'm not a fan of breathing dirty car exhaust, to be honest.


Yes me me neither,i'm all for clean technology,they know we are,those in control BUT what i'm not for is having to be taxed for it to be honest,the whole co2 is bad thing makes me feel uneasy,sure it is a great oppurtunity to create planet friendly technologies,but will they really?
I fear this whole agenda is about control and loss of any freedoms we have left...i'll gladly be wrong on that..

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2 things sealed the climate scam for me a year or so ago and 1 in particular way before that.

The first thing was, we know that rain forests are an extremely important part of our planets eco system, 20% (approx) of the air we breath is produced there. I would just like you to read this about deforestation and what the fire produce in toxins and pollutants taken from http://www.mongabay.com/brazil.html

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"Though these fires are intended to burn only limited areas, they frequently escape agricultural plots and pastures and char pristine rainforest, especially in dry years like 2005. Many of the fires set for clearing forest for these purposes are set during the three-month burning season and the smoke produced creates widespread problems across the region, including airport closings and hospitalizations from smoke inhalation. These fires cover a vast area of forest. In 1987 during a four-month period (July-October), about 19,300 square miles (50,000 sq. km) of Brazilian Amazon were burned in the states of Parà, Rondonia, Mato Grosso, and Acre. The burning produced carbon dioxide containing more than 500 million tons of carbon, 44 million tons of carbon monoxide, and millions of tons of other particles and nitrogen oxides."


Now this goes on year in year out and the very same people that tell us that we have to cut back on our daily use of carbon producing activities are the very same people that let this happen. They can't have it both ways so that should tell you that the whole thing is a stealth taxing scam. The above does not include the damage (so they say) from Air travel, War, Meat production, etc etc. etc

Now I'm not saying that all the above doesn't cause damage, obviously it must to some extent, I'm not a scientist and as you know you can't rely on the "figures" but attacking this from a different angle I just want you to see the hypocracy. We are told (advised) here in the UK to drive 5 miles less a day and yet we sit on a sunday and watch formula one, aircraft racing, yacht racing and air shows. If the figure are correct on what a volcano eruption produces (eg Mnt St Helens = to over 1000 bombs dropped on Hiroshima) then you can see that natural events have a massive impact on the planet. I know this piece is full of contradictions but until we get complete honesty over the whole climate situation, then this will always be the case.

2. I have read on a number of occasions that ALL the planets in our solar system are going through the same temp changes relative to their place and orbit in our solar system. If this is the case then humans have little control over major changes in our planet and by charging us with a carbon tax again makes this look like a scam.

3. Here in the UK we have a scientist that until 1996 was a household name, his name is David Bellamy. In 1996 he had his last television appearance due to this subject. He stated that Human Beings do have an effect but in the grand scale of things it would make little or no difference compared to what nature throws out and therefore talking about humans having a massive effect is totally incorrect. Last year he got his first chance to tell us why he was never appeared or spoke again and this is what he said.(paraphrase)

After that TV appearance I thought it rather strange that after being booked at least two or three times a week to appear on TV and Radio for the last ten plus years, I stopped getting phone calls, not even from my agent. All of a sudden no one wanted to book me but what was more puzzling is that I could not get anyone to give me a reason, they just clammed up. It was a shock as I was a popular on TV presenting science programmes for both adults and children and was a regular guest on talk shows both on tv and radio (Which anyone who remembers the 70s and 80s in the UK will tell you, he was pretty massive)
Because of the way this had happenes and the way people stopped calling, I knew this had come from the top.

So there are only 3 things (and there are thousands) that stand out to me that this is a scam. It could even be to reduce our use of oil (the longer it last the more they can bill us) Who knows but one thing is for sure he whole thing is ridiculous surely when a green politician can cycle to work but would rather use his Bentley then you know something ain't right, we just need some honesty here so we can act or not whatever the case may be but unless we see honesty we will never know if we're being taken for a ride (and lets face it we usually are). On the other hand I'm not immune to the fact that corporations may be involved in leading us down the garden path as Carbon tax certainly effects them big time. We just need Transparacy ONCE AND FOR ALL!

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2 things sealed the climate scam for me a year or so ago and 1 in particular way before that.

The first thing was, we know that rain forests are an extremely important part of our planets eco system, 20% (approx) of the air we breath is produced there. I would just like you to read this about deforestation and what the fire produce in toxins and pollutants taken from http://www.mongabay.com/brazil.html

Quote:
"Though these fires are intended to burn only limited areas, they frequently escape agricultural plots and pastures and char pristine rainforest, especially in dry years like 2005. Many of the fires set for clearing forest for these purposes are set during the three-month burning season and the smoke produced creates widespread problems across the region, including airport closings and hospitalizations from smoke inhalation. These fires cover a vast area of forest. In 1987 during a four-month period (July-October), about 19,300 square miles (50,000 sq. km) of Brazilian Amazon were burned in the states of Parà, Rondonia, Mato Grosso, and Acre. The burning produced carbon dioxide containing more than 500 million tons of carbon, 44 million tons of carbon monoxide, and millions of tons of other particles and nitrogen oxides."


Now this goes on year in year out and the very same people that tell us that we have to cut back on our daily use of carbon producing activities are the very same people that let this happen. They can't have it both ways so that should tell you that the whole thing is a stealth taxing scam. The above does not include the damage (so they say) from Air travel, War, Meat production, etc etc. etc

Now I'm not saying that all the above doesn't cause damage, obviously it must to some extent, I'm not a scientist and as you know you can't rely on the "figures" but attacking this from a different angle I just want you to see the hypocracy. We are told (advised) here in the UK to drive 5 miles less a day and yet we sit on a sunday and watch formula one, aircraft racing, yacht racing and air shows. If the figure are correct on what a volcano eruption produces (eg Mnt St Helens = to over 1000 bombs dropped on Hiroshima) then you can see that natural events have a massive impact on the planet. I know this piece is full of contradictions but until we get complete honesty over the whole climate situation, then this will always be the case.

2. I have read on a number of occasions that ALL the planets in our solar system are going through the same temp changes relative to their place and orbit in our solar system. If this is the case then humans have little control over major changes in our planet and by charging us with a carbon tax again makes this look like a scam.

3. Here in the UK we have a scientist that until 1996 was a household name, his name is David Bellamy. In 1996 he had his last television appearance due to this subject. He stated that Human Beings do have an effect but in the grand scale of things it would make little or no difference compared to what nature throws out and therefore talking about humans having a massive effect is totally incorrect. Last year he got his first chance to tell us why he was never appeared or spoke again and this is what he said.(paraphrase)

After that TV appearance I thought it rather strange that after being booked at least two or three times a week to appear on TV and Radio for the last ten plus years, I stopped getting phone calls, not even from my agent. All of a sudden no one wanted to book me but what was more puzzling is that I could not get anyone to give me a reason, they just clammed up. It was a shock as I was a popular on TV presenting science programmes for both adults and children and was a regular guest on talk shows both on tv and radio (Which anyone who remembers the 70s and 80s in the UK will tell you, he was pretty massive)
Because of the way this had happenes and the way people stopped calling, I knew this had come from the top.

So there are only 3 things (and there are thousands) that stand out to me that this is a scam. It could even be to reduce our use of oil (the longer it last the more they can bill us) Who knows but one thing is for sure he whole thing is ridiculous surely when a green politician can cycle to work but would rather use his Bentley then you know something ain't right, we just need some honesty here so we can act or not whatever the case may be but unless we see honesty we will never know if we're being taken for a ride (and lets face it we usually are). On the other hand I'm not immune to the fact that corporations may be involved in leading us down the garden path as Carbon tax certainly effects them big time. We just need Transparacy ONCE AND FOR ALL!

:cheers:


Amen to that m8,some of the best laid out points i've seen,when you do look at this logically as a human being you cannot come to conclusions other than the whole carbon is bad agenda is FOR US...THE PEOPLE,for complete control over every aspect of our lives and planetary resources,they don't wanna just control our lives but they want to control the entire planet,gm crops being one aspect to that,they now have GM GRASS in New Zeland....to me the whole thing is one satanicly thought out long term plan that they are slowly implementing.

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I know mate, doesn't all get on your tits. It's obvious to me (now) that we are dealing (or not) with an super intelligent master plan whereby everything is a meticulously well planned even down to our reaction to a situation in advance. The way we think, the way we act and the way we live is so pre-emted that even when we think we have gone against he supposed wishes of a situation, even that has been catered for in their game of chess.

The problem we have as a species (imo) is that every reaction we have to a situation has already been calculated and therefore we can be directed unwittingly on to any path they so wish. It starts with war, language and religion for me. We are divided for a reason but the problem is that a lot of people just cannot see it. (I know that sounds conceited) Once we start to see things for what they are then we have a chance but I fear even that has been quantified. It's like being the recipient of that group of grifters in the TV programme "Hustle".

From nations at war to arguments on a website, that's all of tremendous help to the chess players for while we are "occupied" we can be no threat and when we think we are winning at something, the very thing we have won was created in order for all parties to stay occupied. While we are "occupied" we don't get that much time to think and that's exactly the point. Until we ALL see these things as a collective for what they are then we can only be the chess pieces and never the players.

I just hope that whatever force is in control has an equal and opposite force to keep them in some sort of check and that one day we overcome this whole nightmare of reality and get "let In" on the secret. We are certainly waking up. I mean just look around us on internet land but you know I have to say it, that also has been included in a contigency plan, no doubt
and we just don't have the tools to deal with it as to date they haven't been invented.

I know this sounds like here is nothing that can be done but the fact that we are becoming aware MAYBE the biggest thing we have.

99.9% of the planet are surviving rather than living and everyone surely has the right to live and I don't think that, that 99.9% has ever lived since we "BECAME" even if you think this is living, it isn't. This could go deep and I won't but I don't think that people have ever felt what it's truly like for our species to LIVE.

anyways I'll finish to say that I don't think that there is any truth to the rumour that the last line in Anne Franks diary reads,
"Today is my Birthday, Dad has bought me a drumkit" :lol:


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@Thesaint,
Always wondered why David Bellamy stopped appearing on TV :headscratch:
Everything else I more or less agree with :cheers:

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