Uh, real footage of astronauts on the moon ruin city?

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PostFri Nov 11, 2011 5:35 am » by Serendipity


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truthdefender wrote:Apparently the vid maker has a time machine! Watch the vid again and claim it's from the 70's!


This is the original video of the 70's from which the youtuber takes scenes from


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Other pictures shown in the video have proven to be complete :bullshit:

Don't get me wrong, I do believe there is a mystery about our Moon too


Thank you Frutty :flop:
I will look at it myself and dig on the web later...one thing is I cant believe it was special effects in the 70s...how can you explain the moon footage?
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PostFri Nov 11, 2011 5:37 am » by Frutty


serendipity wrote:
frutty wrote:
truthdefender wrote:Apparently the vid maker has a time machine! Watch the vid again and claim it's from the 70's!


This is the original video of the 70's from which the youtuber takes scenes from


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Other pictures shown in the video have proven to be complete :bullshit:

Don't get me wrong, I do believe there is a mystery about our Moon too


Thank you Frutty :flop:
I will look at it myself and dig on the web later...one thing is I cant believe it was special effects in the 70s...how can you explain the moon footage?


Well man it's a long long story, but even the actors and the location where it was filmed have come to light trough the years.

If you want to find more details this is the keyword "Juan Jose Benitez"

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PostFri Nov 11, 2011 5:46 am » by Serendipity


Thank you Frutty :flop:
I will look at it myself and dig on the web later...one thing is I cant believe it was special effects in the 70s...how can you explain the moon footage?[/quote]

Thanks. I will investigate and get back with my diagnosis :cheers:
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PostFri Nov 11, 2011 5:46 am » by Truthdefender


Okay, not retracting my earlier support of the premise of the vid's thesis, but after about 40 minutes I have to bow out. It is so disappointing that some, in their zealousness, will stray from good research. Once the narrator/vid maker showed the debunked photo of Hitler shaking hands with the grey I had to bounce.

I still support his position!!!

@frutty,
I misunderstood your claim that the whole vid was from the 70's :cheers:

Hadn't seen that one either!

Thanks for the info!
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PostFri Nov 11, 2011 5:51 am » by -Marduk-


oceanz wrote:i found this video with pictures and video I've never seen before of the moon and aliens pretty
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its a little long but.. its worth the watch, i think.

The Apollo 20 hoax is a story told in a series of YouTube videos of a phony manned lunar mission whose purpose was to retrieve ancient alien artifacts from the moon. Thierry Speth, a French video artist, claimed to be the perpetrator of the hoax on 9 July 2007 on Need2Know.eu, an internet bulletin board. However, no news organization has ever attempted to verify Speth's claim.


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The Hoax

In April, 2007 a series of videos began appearing on YouTube under the username retiredafb telling the story of Apollo 20. Then on 25 March 2007, Italian ufologist Luca Scantanburlo interviewed somebody who identified himself as William Rutledge who claimed to be the commander of the Apollo 20 crew. Rutledge also claimed to be the account owner of retiredafb. However, Scantanburlo never met Rutledge in person because he conducted the interview over Yahoo! Messenger .

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The videos have drawn over 200,000 views since their appearance on YouTube.

During the interview, Rutledge claimed Apollo 20 was a top-secret mission launched in mid August of 1976 from Vandenberg Air Force Base in Santa Barbara, California and conducted jointly by the United States and the former Soviet Union. He said the other mission members were American Leona Snyder (an apparently fictitious person) and former Soviet cosmonaut Aleksei Leonov, the first human being to walk in space. The purported lunar landing site of the mission was near Delporte crater on the far side of the moon. Rutledge said the videos show that he and Leonov discovered the remains of an ancient lunar civilization. He also said they brought back artifacts to earth for study, including a hibernating female alien.

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Four months later, video artist Speth claimed responsibility for the hoax and explained that the entire story was fabricated.

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YouTube videos

The hoaxer began posting the videos on April Fool's Day, a hint that the story was nothing more than an elaborate prank. He/she has since moved most of the videos to Revver.com under the same username (retiredafb). However, others are scattered throughout YouTube posted by several account users, thereby making it difficult to determine the true identity of the hoaxer. Each continues to draw thousands of views.

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Despite the realistic appearance of the videos, amateurs have easily debunked them on YouTube and elsewhere on the internet.

The videos are short, each only lasting a couple of minutes. If viewed in their intended sequence, they tell a partial story of the mission, starting with astronauts boarding Apollo 20 and ending with the extraordinary "discoveries" on the moon. They include the following images:

-Ruins of an alien spacecraft
-Ruins of an alien city
-The body of a hibernating female alien
-Apollo 20 flight plans and mission patches
-The launch of Apollo 20
-William Rutledge walking on the moon

The truth behind the hoax

Like many hoaxes, this story is a mixture of facts and fiction. The starting point for it are photos that Apollo 15 astronauts took while in lunar orbit. The photos show what look like a cigar-shaped object resting in a crater. The hoaxer used these photos to create the image of pock-marked alien spacecraft on the moon. The object in question is nothing more than a natural part of the lunar terrain.

In truth, Apollo 20 was a mission that never got off the ground -- literally. It was one of three lunar missions NASA canceled due to lack of funding along with Apollos 18 and 19. The last NASA lunar mission was Apollo 17, launched in 1972. The next Apollo mission was the Apollo-Soyuz Test Project coordinated by the United States and the former Soviet Union in 1975. However, its mission was to remain in low earth orbit and to dock with a Soviet Soyuz spacecraft, something it accomplished successfully. Some mistakenly refer to that mission as Apollo 18.

Some of the stages for the Saturn V rockets intended for NASA’s last three lunar missions had already been constructed before their cancellation. According to the hoaxer's story, these were all used on lunar missions for Apollos 18, 19 and 20. In reality NASA used one of these to launch Skylab into orbit in 1973. The others are on display at three American space centers: the John F. Kennedy Space Center near Cape Canaveral, Florida; the Johnson Space Center in Houston, Texas; and the United States Space & Rocket Center in Huntsville, Alabama.
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PostFri Nov 11, 2011 5:56 am » by Frutty


marduk2012 wrote:
oceanz wrote:i found this video with pictures and video I've never seen before of the moon and aliens pretty
cool stuff.


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its a little long but.. its worth the watch, i think.

The Apollo 20 hoax is a story told in a series of YouTube videos of a phony manned lunar mission whose purpose was to retrieve ancient alien artifacts from the moon. Thierry Speth, a French video artist, claimed to be the perpetrator of the hoax on 9 July 2007 on Need2Know.eu, an internet bulletin board. However, no news organization has ever attempted to verify Speth's claim.


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The Hoax

In April, 2007 a series of videos began appearing on YouTube under the username retiredafb telling the story of Apollo 20. Then on 25 March 2007, Italian ufologist Luca Scantanburlo interviewed somebody who identified himself as William Rutledge who claimed to be the commander of the Apollo 20 crew. Rutledge also claimed to be the account owner of retiredafb. However, Scantanburlo never met Rutledge in person because he conducted the interview over Yahoo! Messenger .

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The videos have drawn over 200,000 views since their appearance on YouTube.

During the interview, Rutledge claimed Apollo 20 was a top-secret mission launched in mid August of 1976 from Vandenberg Air Force Base in Santa Barbara, California and conducted jointly by the United States and the former Soviet Union. He said the other mission members were American Leona Snyder (an apparently fictitious person) and former Soviet cosmonaut Aleksei Leonov, the first human being to walk in space. The purported lunar landing site of the mission was near Delporte crater on the far side of the moon. Rutledge said the videos show that he and Leonov discovered the remains of an ancient lunar civilization. He also said they brought back artifacts to earth for study, including a hibernating female alien.

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Four months later, video artist Speth claimed responsibility for the hoax and explained that the entire story was fabricated.
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YouTube videos

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The hoaxer began posting the videos on April Fool's Day, a hint that the story was nothing more than an elaborate prank. He/she has since moved most of the videos to Revver.com under the same username (retiredafb). However, others are scattered throughout YouTube posted by several account users, thereby making it difficult to determine the true identity of the hoaxer. Each continues to draw thousands of views.

Despite the realistic appearance of the videos, amateurs have easily debunked them on YouTube and elsewhere on the internet.

The videos are short, each only lasting a couple of minutes. If viewed in their intended sequence, they tell a partial story of the mission, starting with astronauts boarding Apollo 20 and ending with the extraordinary "discoveries" on the moon. They include the following images:

-Ruins of an alien spacecraft
-Ruins of an alien city
-The body of a hibernating female alien
-Apollo 20 flight plans and mission patches
-The launch of Apollo 20
-William Rutledge walking on the moon

The truth behind the hoax

Like many hoaxes, this story is a mixture of facts and fiction. The starting point for it are photos that Apollo 15 astronauts took while in lunar orbit. The photos show what look like a cigar-shaped object resting in a crater. The hoaxer used these photos to create the image of pock-marked alien spacecraft on the moon. The object in question is nothing more than a natural part of the lunar terrain.

In truth, Apollo 20 was a mission that never got off the ground -- literally. It was one of three lunar missions NASA canceled due to lack of funding along with Apollos 18 and 19. The last NASA lunar mission was Apollo 17, launched in 1972. The next Apollo mission was the Apollo-Soyuz Test Project coordinated by the United States and the former Soviet Union in 1975. However, its mission was to remain in low earth orbit and to dock with a Soviet Soyuz spacecraft, something it accomplished successfully. Some mistakenly refer to that mission as Apollo 18.

Some of the stages for the Saturn V rockets intended for NASA’s last three lunar missions had already been constructed before their cancellation. According to the hoaxer's story, these were all used on lunar missions for Apollos 18, 19 and 20. In reality NASA used one of these to launch Skylab into orbit in 1973. The others are on display at three American space centers: the John F. Kennedy Space Center near Cape Canaveral, Florida; the Johnson Space Center in Houston, Texas; and the United States Space & Rocket Center in Huntsville, Alabama.


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PostFri Nov 11, 2011 6:00 am » by Serendipity


marduk2012 wrote:
oceanz wrote:i found this video with pictures and video I've never seen before of the moon and aliens pretty
cool stuff.


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its a little long but.. its worth the watch, i think.

The Apollo 20 hoax is a story told in a series of YouTube videos of a phony manned lunar mission whose purpose was to retrieve ancient alien artifacts from the moon. Thierry Speth, a French video artist, claimed to be the perpetrator of the hoax on 9 July 2007 on Need2Know.eu, an internet bulletin board. However, no news organization has ever attempted to verify Speth's claim.


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The Hoax

In April, 2007 a series of videos began appearing on YouTube under the username retiredafb telling the story of Apollo 20. Then on 25 March 2007, Italian ufologist Luca Scantanburlo interviewed somebody who identified himself as William Rutledge who claimed to be the commander of the Apollo 20 crew. Rutledge also claimed to be the account owner of retiredafb. However, Scantanburlo never met Rutledge in person because he conducted the interview over Yahoo! Messenger .

Image

The videos have drawn over 200,000 views since their appearance on YouTube.

During the interview, Rutledge claimed Apollo 20 was a top-secret mission launched in mid August of 1976 from Vandenberg Air Force Base in Santa Barbara, California and conducted jointly by the United States and the former Soviet Union. He said the other mission members were American Leona Snyder (an apparently fictitious person) and former Soviet cosmonaut Aleksei Leonov, the first human being to walk in space. The purported lunar landing site of the mission was near Delporte crater on the far side of the moon. Rutledge said the videos show that he and Leonov discovered the remains of an ancient lunar civilization. He also said they brought back artifacts to earth for study, including a hibernating female alien.

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Four months later, video artist Speth claimed responsibility for the hoax and explained that the entire story was fabricated.
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YouTube videos

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The hoaxer began posting the videos on April Fool's Day, a hint that the story was nothing more than an elaborate prank. He/she has since moved most of the videos to Revver.com under the same username (retiredafb). However, others are scattered throughout YouTube posted by several account users, thereby making it difficult to determine the true identity of the hoaxer. Each continues to draw thousands of views.

Image

Despite the realistic appearance of the videos, amateurs have easily debunked them on YouTube and elsewhere on the internet.

The videos are short, each only lasting a couple of minutes. If viewed in their intended sequence, they tell a partial story of the mission, starting with astronauts boarding Apollo 20 and ending with the extraordinary "discoveries" on the moon. They include the following images:

-Ruins of an alien spacecraft
-Ruins of an alien city
-The body of a hibernating female alien
-Apollo 20 flight plans and mission patches
-The launch of Apollo 20
-William Rutledge walking on the moon

The truth behind the hoax

Like many hoaxes, this story is a mixture of facts and fiction. The starting point for it are photos that Apollo 15 astronauts took while in lunar orbit. The photos show what look like a cigar-shaped object resting in a crater. The hoaxer used these photos to create the image of pock-marked alien spacecraft on the moon. The object in question is nothing more than a natural part of the lunar terrain.

In truth, Apollo 20 was a mission that never got off the ground -- literally. It was one of three lunar missions NASA canceled due to lack of funding along with Apollos 18 and 19. The last NASA lunar mission was Apollo 17, launched in 1972. The next Apollo mission was the Apollo-Soyuz Test Project coordinated by the United States and the former Soviet Union in 1975. However, its mission was to remain in low earth orbit and to dock with a Soviet Soyuz spacecraft, something it accomplished successfully. Some mistakenly refer to that mission as Apollo 18.

Some of the stages for the Saturn V rockets intended for NASA’s last three lunar missions had already been constructed before their cancellation. According to the hoaxer's story, these were all used on lunar missions for Apollos 18, 19 and 20. In reality NASA used one of these to launch Skylab into orbit in 1973. The others are on display at three American space centers: the John F. Kennedy Space Center near Cape Canaveral, Florida; the Johnson Space Center in Houston, Texas; and the United States Space & Rocket Center in Huntsville, Alabama.


Thank you Marduk, for taking the time to draw it for me. Wow what a hoax...the footage of the astronaut walking in the ruins was compelling...of course if it was real it would have been scrubbed from youtube long ago.
Thanks again Marduk, this is one that got by me :cheers:
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PostFri Nov 11, 2011 6:06 am » by -Marduk-


Ure welcome Serendipity, I witnessed that these kinda hoaxes, like Apollo 20 have viral cycles in ze interwebz...from time to time fringe sites like DTV get bombarded with this bullcrap over n over.
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PostFri Nov 11, 2011 4:36 pm » by Frutty


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PostFri Nov 11, 2011 6:37 pm » by Nedroj


In the orginal hoax video they say the building is 60*9 meters and in this one with the deranged narrator its half a mile , about 800 meters or so. Fun to watch the vid and listen to the narrator who obviously belive hes own bs :mrgreen:

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