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 Post subject: ... United States: A world power is bankrupt ...
PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:43 am 
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How can we continue to exist, even if they are bankrupt, made the United States prior to Christmas Eve. The U.S. method is not, however, is open to all citizens ...

Such as Reuters and Bloomberg reported on 24.12.2009, decided by the Senate, an additional public debt to 290 billion U.S. dollars. This amount, which is already astronomically high U.S. deficit pushes further up, enough, it is said, to fund the government for another two months.
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The U.S. total deficit now amounts to around 12.4 trillion - unofficially to the mountain of debt, however, be much higher. With this action, the lightning current debt ceiling for the fourth time within 18 months was increased. The law was adopted with 60 votes to 39. One Republican said yes, no, a Democrat. Only a week before the House of Representatives had approved. How urgent the situation was to show the dates: Shortly before the end of the year and the sessional days were called together members of Congress to approve the funding measure in a Schnellaktion too. Quite so surprising, however, this need not come. Earlier, the Treasury had warned that the U.S. debt limit, the force could reach before the end of the year. Without a further cash injection the government would no longer have been able to afford the debt incurred from the payments.

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Such as Reuters and Bloomberg reported on 24.12.2009, decided by the Senate, an additional public debt to 290 billion U.S. dollars. This amount, which is already astronomically high U.S. deficit pushes further up, enough, it is said, to fund the government for another two months.
ORIGINAL : Dieser Betrag, der das bereits astronomisch hohe US-Defizit nochmals nach oben treibt, genüge, so heißt es, um die Regierung für weitere zwei Monate zu finanzieren.


what ? two month? and then the flood? ;-)

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 Post subject: Re: ... United States: A world power is bankrupt ...
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lol at this guys ramblings. 3:40 for u.s collapse talk

but then theres cnn airing this guys theory



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 Post subject: ... Break the U.S. apart? ...
PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:59 pm 
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Wednesday, 11.03.2009
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One or the other readers may be given the current financial and economic crisis still remember the announcement by the Russian economist Tatyana Koryagina, which has warned on several occasions in the summer of 2001 against the dollar and the United States in the following weeks would collapse. As is well known, it came shortly after the attacks of 11 September at the World Trade Center in New York. Was interviewed as Koryagina then again, she said, it would follow new shocks, both financial and other nature. They would, they said, to take America back and bring it to the ground. Eight years later, the Western Financial is now effectively collapsed, and another senior member of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Professor Igor Panarin said ahead of a catastrophic event for the U.S., namely the start of a civil war and the breakup of the United States into several states.

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In June 2010, so Panarin would break the U.S. "along ethnic lines," in six parts: the Pacific coast would be a part of China or coming under Chinese influence, the south go to Mexico, the North, close to Canada, the East could Connect with the EU, Alaska, would come under the control of Russia and Hawaii go to Japan or China. Subsequently, Russia and China would form the backbone of a new world order and create a new currency which will replace the dollar. Russia would then occupy the dominant position in "Eurasia". The reasons for this development he gave to the mass immigration and the economic and moral decline of the U.S..

Anyone who thinks that forecast is now a response to the current international financial crisis, is mistaken, because Panarin takes this thesis since a decade. She comes not from anyone, because Panarin know as a former analyst for the KGB and an expert on information warfare, so for psychological warfare through media manipulation and disinformation, no doubt very well what he speaks. He claims to have worked out this scenario, based on secret documents of the Russian secret service FAPSI for the government of Boris Yeltsin.

If such a high-ranking representative of the Moscow nomenklatura sets up such a prediction, then one may safely assume that this is not just a simple assessment of the situation, but that this development has been deliberately planned exactly like that. In fact, fomenting civil war states to destabilize the Western countries is an integral part of the existing since 1958, Moscow's long-term strategy to build a socialist new world order, what more easterly intelligence defector confirmed independently. For example, the Czechoslovak General Jan Sejna reported at the beginning of the 1980s by a corresponding plan of the People's Republic of Yugoslavia after the death of longtime President Josip Tito break up along ethnic lines in various states in order to thereby prevent a connection across Yugoslavia to the western camp . This plan appears to have been implemented since the mid-1980s into action and resulted in the Balkans since then no longer comes to rest.

A suburb of the Bosnian city of Sarajevo. America threatens the same fate as Yugoslavia?



As the American expert told the Soviet long-term strategy Jeff Nyquist, experienced a U.S. soldier stationed in Bosnia by a Russian Spetsnaz officer further details thereof. The Russians, who not only spoke fluent English, but showed even an accent typical of Nebraska, gave talks candidly that the breakup of Yugoslavia was merely a dress rehearsal for the future division of the U.S., Bosnia is for Russian special forces, only the practice field. (1) Meanwhile, the participation of Russian special units in Bosnia and their involvement in numerous war crimes a proven fact. Representatives of the Hague war crime tribunal spoke of some 700 Russians who participated on the side of Serbia in the war. As one of these Russian "volunteers" was asked by a reporter what his countrymen were fighting in the Balkans, he replied: "You there, of course, primarily to defend Russia and then only of Serbia. We will soon need front experienced officers. Provides the best conditions for the training of these men now Serbia. Basically, what happens in Serbia, the beginning of the Third World War. "(2)

Before the outbreak of the current global economic crisis, a revolutionary, either in the U.S. still would have found elsewhere in the Western world, the appropriate conditions for igniting civil wars and secessions. But now, after the Wohlstandskit begins to crumble, who had held the foreign dominated and inwardly Western countries has been completely decomposed be riots and civil war for the first time a realistic danger. But only if one also requires the activities of such specialized units, it is conceivable that parts of the United States, as predicted by Panarin actually come in the near future under Chinese and Russian control. The task of these special units would be to foment terrorist attacks and acts of violence by a civil war, in which the state structure collapses completely, following which explains a revolutionary committee in legitimate government of the territory, and Russian and Chinese military summons to restore public order. In this way could the U.S. military to occupy, without the risk of an open Third World War in the need to purchase. Then that would be Russian-Chinese New World Order, spoke of the Igor Panarin - and their form of society, according to the former KGB Major Anatoliy Golitsyn will be of world communism - no more obstacles.
Wednesday, 11.03.2009

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 Post subject: ... Government bonds in danger Moody's sees turbulent times
PostPosted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:39 pm 
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Not only the creditworthiness of Greece worries.
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The government bond market threatens the view of the rating agency Moody's turbulent times. Worldwide climb the risk of defaults, warned the agency. Reason is the high cost, which has caused the financial crisis.

In particular submit to the U.S. and Britain would have a convincing plan to reduce the deficit - otherwise they could lose their credit as early as 2011 Top marks, said Moody's in charge of the country classification Pierre Cailleteau. Is "2010 is likely a turbulent year for the risks associated with government bonds," he said. "The long-term rates will rise around the world and thus reveal the true costs of financial and economic crisis."

The issue of government credit is already moved in recent weeks in the financial markets in the spotlight - especially by a downgrading of Greece and the debt crisis in Dubai.

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 Post subject: Re: ... United States: A world power is bankrupt ...
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I can ASSURE you that there will be a NorthAmerican Union LONG before any International "scramble" takes place by Russia,China and the EU.
Another thing thats curious to me,Mexico takes TEXAS? YOU MUST BE FUCKING KIDDING!!! I'm not sure ANY Country has the capacity to take Texas least of all Mexico,Mexico cant even secure itself from the Cartels for crying out loud!!
GoodLuck with the Texas invasion! LMFAO!!! I mean,it's legal to have Rocket Launchers for personal protection there.
Anyways,I dont care what anyone says,
I AM FOR the North American Union, sans Mexico,untill they can get their shit together.
The NorthAmerican Union would be a force to be reckoned,Russia AND China combined couldn't touch the sheer magnitude of its capacity.
We could bring ALL US troops home and lock it down from outside influence,and leave the REST of the WORLD to fight over the scraps that are left!!!
MWAAHAAHahaahaahaaa...................... :cheers:


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It is only possible future prospects. The future may look very different. :o
Perhaps remains of the "safe country" is not much left (geographically) ... :ohno:
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lehmanaid wrote:
I can ASSURE you that there will be a NorthAmerican Union LONG before any International "scramble" takes place by Russia,China and the EU.
Another thing thats curious to me,Mexico takes TEXAS? YOU MUST BE FUCKING KIDDING!!! I'm not sure ANY Country has the capacity to take Texas least of all Mexico,Mexico cant even secure itself from the Cartels for crying out loud!!
GoodLuck with the Texas invasion! LMFAO!!! I mean,it's legal to have Rocket Launchers for personal protection there.
Anyways,I dont care what anyone says,
I AM FOR the North American Union, sans Mexico,untill they can get their shit together.
The NorthAmerican Union would be a force to be reckoned,Russia AND China combined couldn't touch the sheer magnitude of its capacity.
We could bring ALL US troops home and lock it down from outside influence,and leave the REST of the WORLD to fight over the scraps that are left!!!
MWAAHAAHahaahaahaaa...................... :cheers:


Well, there are those that believe the NAU is the Rockefeller faction response to no longer wanting to work with the Rothschilde/EU faction anymore. The only problem for Americans is that this means we lose our Constitution and our Bill of Rights. What will replace them in the NAU? All I know is that we havn't been moving in the direction of more civil rights so certainly it is more likely for us to lose rights in the NAU then to gain or even keep our supposedly current rights.

I honestly would rather see the United States break up into the smaller portions that all are independent then for it to form up an even larger conglomeration that could do even more of the dastardly things that the powers that be are already doing.

The Russian KGB guy put a Russian spin on his idea. Those seperate Unions do not Have to fall in line with any particular outside power. They may choose to work closely with different countries then the other newly founded American Unions but that doesnt mean they wont be working closely with the other Unions. Their self defense will still heavily rely on working together with the other Unions but the difference will be there wont be one massive Federal government running them all.

I personally favor the Russian guy's view over the view of the NORTHCOMM/NAU view. Yes, we already formed the military wing of the NAU and Canadian troops train with ours inside our borders currently as we speak. Just look up the NASCA superhighway system. Look at how many big corporations are moving their distribution centers to Kansas City due to its prime location on the Superhighway. Kansas City may become one of the fastest growing US cities in the near future if not The fastest. Where the money goes, people will follow, especially in hard times.


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 Post subject: Re: ... United States: A world power is bankrupt ...
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Hello,

here is a different view of times with a different assessment

As has been speculation about a new G2, referring to China and the U.S. as a new driving force of the future ...
Well - it may want different things ... ;-)

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Thomas Straubhaar, director of the Hamburg World Economic Institute, said ahead of Europe's economic decline. The HWWI boss warns, however, react with fatalism, pessimism, defensiveness or foreclosure on the European importance of loss.

Hamburg - In the coming decade, Europe will "be forced out of the center to the edge" of global economic activity and "ascending to the second division," said Straubhaar in an article published on Thursday.

Relegation candidates Europe: "China and the U.S. will be determined as the center of gravity of the bipolar world's economic future"
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Relegation candidates Europe: "China and the U.S. will be determined as the center of gravity of the bipolar world's economic future"
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"China and the U.S. will be determined as the center of gravity of the bipolar world's economic future," says the document. European companies, in their saturated and shrinking markets due to demographic developments could increase their sales barely still need "for better or worse" to "dynamically growing demand in Southeast Asia and share."

Straubhaar warns react with fatalism, pessimism, defensiveness or foreclosure on the European importance of loss. "We need to take advantage of the enormous potential of Asian markets, without getting into one-sided dependencies," he writes. This was certainly a change of perspective is necessary.

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If the US breaks up according to the map above, I am willing to bet there will be a mass exodus from the south to the north unlike anything seen in history.

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'It is only possible future prospects. The future may look very different' yes some are certain we head into a civil war, personally i think we're too lazy as a people

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If the US breaks up according to the map above, I am willing to bet there will be a mass exodus from the south to the north unlike anything seen in history.

any particular reason you think that? you'd think people would want to live in a warmer spot & move south :?:


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