US faces Extradition over Espionage Charges

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PostSun Jun 30, 2013 9:14 pm » by 2020


Came across this piece while trawling and found it quite funny even though the (real) situation is actually very serious.

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In an unprecedented action, the governments of France, Cuba, Germany and Brazil have co-submitted a joint request to the United States to surrender itself for extradition over charges of espionage and breach of privacy.

The joint action by the four requesting countries was submitted to the US Justice Department yesterday and seeks the surrender of the “Person of the United States”. Supporting documents assert that the United States is more a natural than a legal person, and it thus falls within the scope of extradition arrangements.

The move has thrown the US administration into turmoil. Under its treaty obligations the government must take action on the request but the Justice department has been paralysed by an existential crisis over the matter.

This is possibly the most unusual action in the history of extradition law, even surpassing the extraordinary 2003 decision by the US to seek extradition without evidence, process or dual criminality.

One of America’s international legal advisers, UK plc, said it had scoured all bilateral extradition treaties and could find no technical issue with the action by the four governments. “We believe this request is mischievous, but our reading is that there’s nothing in the treaties that would disallow it.”

The State Department then attempted to invoke the secretive “Doctrine of Plausible Deniability” which has protected the CIA and NSA for several decades.

An initial assessment by the US Department of State had concluded that treaties with the four countries do not bind the US to hand over a citizen or permanent resident. However this position fell to dust when it was discovered that no actual citizenship record could be found for the United States per se. Not only that, but the United States would have failed the permanent residency test applied by the US government.

The requesting documents second-guessed the Department of State position by arguing that “persistent” activity by the US in so many countries would cause it to fail the “Substantial Presence” test for permanent US residency.

Sources close to the White House have confirmed that initial discussions between the government and the Person of the United States had proposed that the Person slip away under cover of darkness to London and seek asylum in the Ecuadorian embassy.
The State Department then attempted to invoke the secretive “Doctrine of Plausible Deniability” which has protected the CIA and NSA for several decades. This position too collapsed when a logical paradox was created by the realisation that the Doctrine of Plausible Deniability could not be invoked in a case where implausible deniability itself was allegedly implausible.

Sources close to the White House have confirmed that initial discussions between the government and the Person of the United States had proposed that the Person slip away under cover of darkness to London and seek asylum in the Ecuadorian embassy. Ecuador immediately lodged a formal protest, arguing that its sofa space was already being occupied and damned if it was going to lose its Sanjuanito dancing room to another guest.

The latest strategy by the State Department was to claim that the entire requesting process is a set-up to permanently detain the US Person. The department argued that it had received “reliable information” that Cuba would claim first right to receive the surrendered person, and that Brazil would then lodge a long and complex extradition process for the Person’s surrender. In this way a legal “pass the parcel” arrangement would ensue, resulting in permanent detention without trial in breach of the treaty safeguards.

As reported today in the New York Times this claim sparked an angry response from the Cuban justice minister who fumed “Yeah, well why don’t you just kidnap it like you do with everybody else”.

Negotiations are continuing.

June 23, 2013

Here: http://www.privacysurgeon.org/blog/incision/newsflash-united-states-faces-extradition-over-espionage-charges/

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PostSun Jun 30, 2013 9:43 pm » by handy4321


Well, I guess TPTB can't have it both ways now, can they? If they want to be a person, they will have to be susceptible to the laws and everything else any other person has to face. :banana:



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