Vanishing of the Bees!

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PostSat Jun 18, 2011 6:45 pm » by Freeyourmindnow


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PostSat Jun 18, 2011 7:34 pm » by Dhjudas


Most of the explanations tag global warming.... or any other possible reason OTHER THEN pestacides and chemical spraying as the root cause of the disappearance of bees.

It's very unfortunate, but many people will beleive the garbage that is broadcasted across the globe as the main reason which is untrue or inaccurate... or meerly a remote possibility at best.

Considering i work in the very industry that is responcible for the death of trillions of species on a yearly bases without being able to do much of it due to not having control over it... just a voice at this point about it.... i understand what is going much better then the "suspected" claimed to be proffesionals that say otherwise or don't even mention what is actually happening.

Farms and argiculture is the largest player in the population of many species and insects not to mention all forms of animal life in all it's forms... not only that but we are some of the largest produces of the good things.

However with the slow and steady and near exponential increase in chemical sprays and innoculants and such that is being applied and sprayed almost all year round, this is having a huge effect on these animals being able to do their basic required tasks... be it reproduce, or even survive.

We are using more and more chemical sprays and such to the point it's actually hurting the very crops we are trying to protect. These things are tested over a short term even if someone thinks a 2 or 5 year study is long term.... i'm talking DECADES... and they are being abused to the point of chemical sprays being sprayed even when it's not needed, it's just being done anyways.

Years ago people actually cultivated the land in order to kill unwanted growth of weeds and such.... nowadays most of everything is never cultivated or worked, it's all sprayed.... several times a year quite often.

Most of all these chemicals are extremely hazardous to us, and we are big living creatures with a high tolerance for these things...a bee or other animals get so much of a lungfull of this stuff and they are dead, they get it on their bodies and take it back to lets say the nest or hive... and it kills the larva or babies or whatever may be around them, including the adult parents or other passerby.

I'm curious to know what this video illustrates as the defining factor..

All i know is mosanto has paid a significant amount of money to prevent their business from being labeled as the killar..... and they have a good history of sueing anyone that so much as breaths the possibility even if it is true (one cannot do much when barried by lawyers to the point of being unable to move at all reguardless of being right)

Either way.... Our unnatural exponetial attempt to be more efficient has turned into being less efficient.... even if we produce more product initially in that year.. the following years of poorer and poorer growth don't make that single year better.

We think and work on the bases of far to short of a term for most to comprehend that we are killing ourselves in the long term...

it's counter productive and utterly stupid..

I find this quite sad.... and whats worse, speaking about it, most people ignore it due to refusing to beleive it as even possible. To much they think that the "health" boards and systems in place as well as the wildlife supports would have blown the whistle a long time if any of what i had said "were true" is what some people have said to me. Handing them a knife and asking them to slit their own throat raises eyebrows.. but no one so much as twitches if someone mutilates themselves over a long period of time, and when they are finally dead... they take notice and ask the most rediculious obvious question... "i don't understand... i didn't see it coming"

Back to the whole metaphor of the frog in the slowly boiling pot of water.

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PostSat Jun 18, 2011 8:19 pm » by Freeyourmindnow


dhjudas wrote:Most of the explanations tag global warming.... or any other possible reason OTHER THEN pestacides and chemical spraying as the root cause of the disappearance of bees.

It's very unfortunate, but many people will beleive the garbage that is broadcasted across the globe as the main reason which is untrue or inaccurate... or meerly a remote possibility at best.

Considering i work in the very industry that is responcible for the death of trillions of species on a yearly bases without being able to do much of it due to not having control over it... just a voice at this point about it.... i understand what is going much better then the "suspected" claimed to be proffesionals that say otherwise or don't even mention what is actually happening.

Farms and argiculture is the largest player in the population of many species and insects not to mention all forms of animal life in all it's forms... not only that but we are some of the largest produces of the good things.

However with the slow and steady and near exponential increase in chemical sprays and innoculants and such that is being applied and sprayed almost all year round, this is having a huge effect on these animals being able to do their basic required tasks... be it reproduce, or even survive.

We are using more and more chemical sprays and such to the point it's actually hurting the very crops we are trying to protect. These things are tested over a short term even if someone thinks a 2 or 5 year study is long term.... i'm talking DECADES... and they are being abused to the point of chemical sprays being sprayed even when it's not needed, it's just being done anyways.

Years ago people actually cultivated the land in order to kill unwanted growth of weeds and such.... nowadays most of everything is never cultivated or worked, it's all sprayed.... several times a year quite often.

Most of all these chemicals are extremely hazardous to us, and we are big living creatures with a high tolerance for these things...a bee or other animals get so much of a lungfull of this stuff and they are dead, they get it on their bodies and take it back to lets say the nest or hive... and it kills the larva or babies or whatever may be around them, including the adult parents or other passerby.

I'm curious to know what this video illustrates as the defining factor..

All i know is mosanto has paid a significant amount of money to prevent their business from being labeled as the killar..... and they have a good history of sueing anyone that so much as breaths the possibility even if it is true (one cannot do much when barried by lawyers to the point of being unable to move at all reguardless of being right)

Either way.... Our unnatural exponetial attempt to be more efficient has turned into being less efficient.... even if we produce more product initially in that year.. the following years of poorer and poorer growth don't make that single year better.

We think and work on the bases of far to short of a term for most to comprehend that we are killing ourselves in the long term...

it's counter productive and utterly stupid..

I find this quite sad.... and whats worse, speaking about it, most people ignore it due to refusing to beleive it as even possible. To much they think that the "health" boards and systems in place as well as the wildlife supports would have blown the whistle a long time if any of what i had said "were true" is what some people have said to me. Handing them a knife and asking them to slit their own throat raises eyebrows.. but no one so much as twitches if someone mutilates themselves over a long period of time, and when they are finally dead... they take notice and ask the most rediculious obvious question... "i don't understand... i didn't see it coming"

Back to the whole metaphor of the frog in the slowly boiling pot of water.


thanks for your good explanation :flop:

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