Venezuela is threatening to attack the Dutch Islands

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PostThu Apr 01, 2010 2:53 pm » by Nickelson


This statement is what I found in a Dutch Newspaper, but I can’t seem to find anything in foreign newspapers.

http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/6432 ... tml?p=10,2

Except this little background on why Venezuela is pissed off at the Dutch.
In short, we gave the US the opportunity to expand their military activity on our islands in the Caribbean.

Anybody has some information on this?
http://www.handsoffvenezuela.org/venezu ... rlands.htm

When this story is true and war indeed is upon us it could drag the US right into it, what do you guys think?

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PostThu Apr 01, 2010 3:00 pm » by Aragajag


I heard the Chinese are all going to fart at 7am local times.
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PostThu Apr 01, 2010 3:04 pm » by Nickelson


aragajag wrote:I heard the Chinese are all going to fart at 7am local times.


Well WWIII will hit the jackpot if that's true. :lol:
It will be smelly in Canada and the US as well

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PostThu Apr 01, 2010 3:40 pm » by Nickelson


Updated March 31, 2010
Chavez Seals Arms-for-Oil Deal With 'Europe's Last Dictator'
By Ed Barnes

- FOXNews.com

While most experts say the deal with Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko doesn’t change the balance of arms in the region, they do concede that it represents a strengthening of Chavez’s military might.

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March 17: Belarus' President Alexander Lukashenko, left,
and Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez.


Since 1992, when America cut off the sale of arms and spare parts to Venezuela, Hugo Chavez has been cobbling together a military machine made up mainly of weapons from Russia and other non-Western suppliers. Last week, in an oil-for-arms deal with “Europe’s last dictator,” Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko, Chavez was able to add a key element to his growing arsenal: advanced ground-to-air radar.

While most experts say the deal itself doesn’t change the balance of arms in the region, they do concede that it represents a strengthening of Chavez’s military might. Moreover, they say the deal also cements an alliance between the respective bad boys of their continents and allows both some wiggle room in their relations with nearby dominant powers.

For Chavez, that would be the United States, which has been weaning itself from Venezuelan oil. For Lukashenko, it is Russia, which has maintained a stranglehold over his nation’s energy supplies.

Chavez's new radar system, called the Tor M-1 Missile Defense System, can detect aircraft and cruise missiles and can operate in “an environment of intense jamming,” according to public military profiles of the system.

“It is something that has to be contended with,” said John Pike, director of Global Security.org, who said the military is the basis of Chavez’s authority and legitimacy.

“To him a strong military equals a strong country,” he said, “and what is good for the military is good for the country” -- even if the actions sometimes seem senseless.

“Sometimes he makes these moves irrationally, just to get attention,” Pike said.

But Anna Gilmore, a military analyst with Jane’s Defense weekly, said the deal was done not only to upgrade Chavez’s military but to cement a relationship with Belarus as part of Venezuela's strategy to widen relations and commercial dealings with countries outside the Americas. “The new oil market takes up some of the slack American cutbacks have caused,” she said.

The deal also aided both countries in a time of economic recession, she said. “Venezuela, which has no currency reserves left, gets to buy the radar with oil instead of hard currency. And Belarus gets 80,000 barrels of oil a month without having to dip into its currency reserves.”

Asked if possessing a mix of arms from many different sources might cause Chavez problems, she said “the deal compliments the military equipment he has procured so far and strengthens his arsenal.”

Venezuela is on a military buying spree. It has just closed a deal with the Russian arms export agency for the purchase of tanks, and it recently bought a small fleet of airplanes from China, ostensibly for drug interdiction.

For Belarus, the deal provides a boost for Lukashenko. Since 2007, when Russia stopped providing subsidies for Belarusian energy supplies, the pariah state of Europe has been searching for allies. Like Venezuela, Belarus has been drawn to the same clique of outcast states—Iran in particular--to bolster its economy and give it a place in the international system.

The most significant boost, according to Matthew Clements, a London-based Eurasia analyst with Jane’s Defense, was to “relieve pressure on Lukashenko’s ability to keep providing generous benefits to the welfare state “that Belarus has become.

“Without the benefits, his hold on power would be undermined,” Clements said. “It relieves the pressure on him. It doesn’t solve all his problems, but it helps.”

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PostThu Apr 01, 2010 3:51 pm » by Zegtelzegtel


wtf?

I have family in curacao and st maarten....

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PostThu Apr 01, 2010 3:58 pm » by Nickelson


zegtelzegtel wrote:wtf?

I have family in curacao and st maarten....


Yeah, well my wife and lots of others as well.

Chavez is threatening the Dutch Islands in the Caribbean.
He's trading lots of oil against weapons to upgrade its military standards.
The reason he is pissed at the Dutch is because of the military grounds given by the Dutch to the US.
And the US is upgrading the presence of military activity as well.

Doesn't that ring a bell? I take this message very serious also due to the fact of the interference of some great nations.

It's strange and I don't know what to think about it, but I am willing to go on a holiday to kick some but over there.

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PostThu Apr 01, 2010 4:17 pm » by Aragajag


Apologies thought a April fool joke.
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PostThu Apr 01, 2010 4:21 pm » by Northstar


Glad to be from the suriname south americana..and a dutchy.

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PostThu Apr 01, 2010 4:31 pm » by Nickelson


aragajag wrote:Apologies thought a April fool joke.


Well I thought the same, when I first saw it, but the facts are adding up. I am just trying to gather more information on this. :flop: And no apologies necessary, just another war we should attend. Our soldiers must have something to do, when they leave Afghanistan.

northstar wrote:Glad to be from the suriname south americana..and a dutchy.


Well go kick Chavez but and get me some cigars :lol:

But this is serious news and no joke! If Chavez attacks Aruba or some other Dutch Island it’s also an indirect attack on the US among others, because off the military presence in the Caribbean.

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PostThu Apr 01, 2010 4:39 pm » by Northstar


nickelson wrote:
aragajag wrote:Apologies thought a April fool joke.


Well I thought the same, when I first saw it, but the facts are adding up. I am just trying to gather more information on this. :flop: And no apologies necessary, just another war we should attend. Our soldiers must have something to do, when they leave Afghanistan.

northstar wrote:Glad to be from the suriname south americana..and a dutchy.


Well go kick Chavez but and get me some cigars :lol:

But this is serious news and no joke! If Chavez attacks Aruba or some other Dutch Island it’s also an indirect attack on the US among others, because off the military presence in the Caribbean.


Nickelson i aint bringin you no cigars i work hard enough :D and keep the smokes to myself.

Im not joking chaves is getting mussolini moves and it is gonna get more than serieus indeed.

:wink: Go find yourself an grossery karate kid kinda girl :badair:


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