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vulcanic · **Joined:** Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:04 pm **Posts:** 3035

fossileyesed wrote:

any ideas who cains wife was.
peace

I thought i read in the book life and times of adam and eve that cain married his sister. but heres few things just think about

Many skeptics have claimed that for Cain to find a wife, there must have been other “races” of people on the earth who were not descendants of Adam and Eve. To many people, this question is a stumbling block to accepting the creation account of Genesis and its record of only one man and woman at the beginning of history. Defenders of the gospel must be able to show that all human beings are descendants of one man and one woman (Adam and Eve) because only descendants of Adam and Eve can be saved. Thus, believers need to be able to account for Cain’s wife and show clearly she was a descendant of Adam and Eve.

fossileyesed · **Joined:** Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:56 am **Posts:** 2407

vulcanic wrote:

The idea that the spirits of dead giants (off spring of demons mating with earth women) inhabit the underworld (place beyond the veil) is supported here:

- They're segregated from the heroes, the old-time giants who entered the grave in full battle dress, their swords placed under their heads and their shields covering their bones, those heroes who spread terror through the land of the living. The Message Version, Ezekiel 32:27

- "And he did not know that giants are there, and that her guests are in the depths of hell" (Douay-Rheims Version, Proverbs 9:18)

- "A man that shall wander out of the way of doctrine, shall abide in the company of the giants" (Douay-Rheims Version, Proverbs 21:16)

- "Hell below was in an uproar to meet thee at thy coming, it stirred up the giants for thee" (Douay-Rheims Version, Isaiah 14:9)

- "Let not the dead live, let not the giants rise again..." (Douay-Rheims Version, Isaiah 26:14)

The book of Jasher, which is mentioned in the Bible in Joshua 10:13 and 2 Samuel 1.18 says, "After the fallen angels went into the daughters of men, [then] the sons of men taught the mixture of animals of one species with the other, in order to provoke the Lord" (4:18). The Book of Enoch says that fallen angels not only merged their DNA with women, but that "they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish" (7:5; 6)

wich this could explain alot of greek storys.

would you consider birds,beasts,reptiles and fish as aspects of nature?shit you see on nature shows.
peace

vulcanic · **Joined:** Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:04 pm **Posts:** 3035

fossileyesed wrote:

vulcanic wrote:

The idea that the spirits of dead giants (off spring of demons mating with earth women) inhabit the underworld (place beyond the veil) is supported here:

- They're segregated from the heroes, the old-time giants who entered the grave in full battle dress, their swords placed under their heads and their shields covering their bones, those heroes who spread terror through the land of the living. The Message Version, Ezekiel 32:27

- "And he did not know that giants are there, and that her guests are in the depths of hell" (Douay-Rheims Version, Proverbs 9:18)

- "A man that shall wander out of the way of doctrine, shall abide in the company of the giants" (Douay-Rheims Version, Proverbs 21:16)

- "Hell below was in an uproar to meet thee at thy coming, it stirred up the giants for thee" (Douay-Rheims Version, Isaiah 14:9)

- "Let not the dead live, let not the giants rise again..." (Douay-Rheims Version, Isaiah 26:14)

The book of Jasher, which is mentioned in the Bible in Joshua 10:13 and 2 Samuel 1.18 says, "After the fallen angels went into the daughters of men, [then] the sons of men taught the mixture of animals of one species with the other, in order to provoke the Lord" (4:18). The Book of Enoch says that fallen angels not only merged their DNA with women, but that "they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish" (7:5; 6)

wich this could explain alot of greek storys.

would you consider birds,beasts,reptiles and fish as aspects of nature?shit you see on nature shows.
peace

i'm native american so i do have belief in mother nature and the great spirit but i also mesh in evolution and bibles into it, thereis so many truths in everything i can't ignore them and my mind is allways open i never try to cling to 1 single belief to do so would shut me out of so much history and facts.

so i guess you can say in my mind it is a never ending search for truth, I don't think i ever will be ables to say this is fact or fiction as i learn new things everyday.

vulcanic · **Joined:** Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:04 pm **Posts:** 3035

Idaho's Flood-Giants Remembered

The Great Basin is an area of inland drainage located in western United States. On its northern edge is a wondrous region known as the Owyhee country. Everywhere is evidence of early human struggles for existence.

Conventional theories positing wandering peoples out of Siberia dates these struggles to the last 12,000 years. Surface evidence clearly indicates the presence of huntergatherers to ten or more millennia ago. But something more materially significant may have prospered in Owyhee Country even earlier.

While Establishment scholars refuse to consider any possibilities for existence of so any a society on our continent, some Native Americans preserve oral traditions which speak of a time, very long ago, when their ancestors came into conflict with "giants" that roamed the region, interfered with activities.

These tribal accounts show some resemblance to biblical stories of a pre-flood world likewise inhabited by giants. For example, Genesis tells of the Nephilim, supposedly of great size and strength. The Judaic tradition affirms that these giants sprang from the union of fallen angels with the daughters of Cain.

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http://www.stevequayle.com/Giants/N.Am/Idaho.html

they got some nice photos too.

anrk0207 · **Joined:** Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:14 pm **Posts:** 165

solomankane wrote:

watchers and could I be a decendant of them ..
The flood killed the the sons and daughters of the fallen angles.the world got a clean slate.But did they not mate with women again and is it possible that I could be a descentant of them. Goilith and his brothers were killed by david and his men but what of thier sons and daughters ? unless they being hybred could not repreduce. your thoughts please.

Stop smoking crack :badair:

bladerunner · **Joined:** Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:14 pm **Posts:** 163

Heres an interesting line up, even gives their heights also, the Watcher is estimated at 5'6.

vulcanic · **Joined:** Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:04 pm **Posts:** 3035

bladerunner wrote:

Heres an interesting line up, even gives their heights also, the Watcher is estimated at 5'6.

thats pretty cool bladerunner :flop:

thank you for adding that into convo :flop:

we are doing a great job in this thread alot of great information is being put up by everyone :flop:

keep it up everyone this is what disclose.tv is about :flop:

bladerunner · **Joined:** Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:14 pm **Posts:** 163

Cheers Vulcanic :flop:

Concerning Cains wife, the Hebrew interpretation is 'ishshah' which translated means “woman/wife/female, so on this premise she could have been his sister or niece.

vulcanic · **Joined:** Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:04 pm **Posts:** 3035

bladerunner wrote:

Cheers Vulcanic :flop:

Concerning Cains wife, the Hebrew interpretation is 'ishshah' which translated means “woman/wife/female, so on this premise she could have been his sister or niece.

yeah i can swear i read in the book life and times of adam and eve that adam and eve had 9 sons and 9 daughter and all 9 sons married there sisters, but of course the bible won't put that in..

plus adam and eve had flawless bodys and lived 800-900 years do to insest and not enough dna we mutated to 100-120 years and gave us defects so our bodys were not as flawless as adam and eves.

not saying this is a fact but it's best guess i got.

bladerunner · **Joined:** Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:14 pm **Posts:** 163

vulcanic wrote:

bladerunner wrote:

Cheers Vulcanic :flop:

Concerning Cains wife, the Hebrew interpretation is 'ishshah' which translated means “woman/wife/female, so on this premise she could have been his sister or niece.

yeah i can swear i read in the book life and times of adam and eve that adam and eve had 9 sons and 9 daughter and all 9 sons married there sisters, but of course the bible won't put that in..

plus adam and eve had flawless bodys and lived 800-900 years do to insest and not enough dna we mutated to 100-120 years and gave us defects so our bodys were not as flawless as adam and eves.

not saying this is a fact but it's best guess i got.

The Earth was a much cleaner place to live in all that time ago and the food, water and air in particular would have made a great differance to their health and lifespan.
On the spiritual side if they were closer to God also that would explain a lot even after the initial transgressions and punishments.

Noah walked with God in his lifetime and he lived many years and survived the flood.

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