were getting dreamed..

[Kinninigan Profile]

another one to ponder about from the dark lord Ze-loc...

[I2haveseen Profile]

in dreams ze human biocomputer gets his updates...

they run automatically.. all is cool...

i today had ze thought tht god is ust dreaming us..

i always stumbled upon gen 8:1 "but god remembered noah.."

remembered? he should ze fuck know what ze fuck is goin on..

alas.. were figures in a dream..

like ze figures in ur dreams.. we all only witness what we call "reality" cauz HE dreams it up.. and as ur figures we take everything for granted that HE dreams...

all is cool in our dreams as long as ze dream is lasting..

and when he gets interrupted by "waking up".. all stays cool for the figures of ur dreams... they dont care wether ur awake.. they dont even know what awake is.. and then u fall asleep again and begin to dream..

and all is cool again.. no interruption..

and that is why god can "remember" someone... he conjured him up long ago in a dream... and one day he returns to him...

or not.. and that is death then..

This is wrong on so many levels
Note: Smoking angel dust is bad for your health.

[Teloc Profile]

to ignore smth means not erasing some thing's impact on ya..

fact is: god IS..

his love is endless..

but..

his love is judgemental.. just like in a dream..

think of ze rich man's whorebugger-son.. ze man loved him more than his other son who worked til his ass bled... sfw? things are things..

so get down on yur knees...

tis neva 2 late...

[mediasorcery Profile]

I know nothing about God's involvement in our dreams, Teloc. Could it possibly be not God, but our governments- up to their old tricks? I really have to wonder how much interest God might have in our dreams, and maybe not only in our dreams, but in our awaken state.

funny u mention this dear teloc, i been thinking lately we could be getting "dreamed by the ptb, ie- alien invasion programming with dreams? think wireless networks or some shit l;ike that, as for god, its not a he buddy, its not human.

I think they do, Media, in- most likely- a variety of ways. The excerpts, that I posted below, from the following, gave me a little to think about- regarding this idea. I think that you might find it interesting.

I was thinking about what you mentioned- the wireless aspect- not too long ago. That aspect is not included in the excerpts below, but I definitely think that, that too, is something to consider, as an additional method of "suggestibility." I find it interesting how the various frequencies of "white noise" in my media room- for example- changes in frequency, volume, tone, intensity, etc. with inconsistent regularity. Disregarding the naturally occurring noise produced by the components (t.v., p.c., etc.,) I wonder what might be "contained" in that "white noise."

Lol. Go ahead and call me paranoid, but we all know what they're capable of, and we have seen- what we've been allowed to see- in terms of scientific technology, and their use of it. Also, knowing of the existence of decades of- and on-going- black projects, might leave us open to all kinds of possibilities.



Mr. Huxley discusses, and considers- in the parts below- some of his writing in Brave New World, which considered technology existent both during, and then after, his writing of the novel. I posted only the most interesting parts- to me- but the whole thing is relatively short, and definitely worth reading.

BRAVE NEW WORLD REVISITED
[1958]
by
Aldous Huxley

IX.
Subconscious Persuasion

...With various modifications and refinements Poetzl's experiments have been repeated several times, most recently by Dr. Charles Fisher, who has contributed three excellent papers on the subject of dreams and "preconscious perception" to the Journal of the Ameri­can Psychoanalytic Association. Meanwhile the academic psychologists have not been idle. Confirming Poetzl's findings, their studies have shown that people actually see and hear a great deal more than they consciously know they see and hear, and that what they see and hear without knowing it is recorded by the subconscious mind and may affect their conscious thoughts, feelings and behavior....

...Pure science does not remain pure indefinitely. Sooner or later it is apt to turn into applied science and finally into technology. Theory modulates into in­dustrial practice, knowledge becomes power, formulas and laboratory experiments undergo a metamorphosis, and emerge as the H-bomb. In the present case, Poetzl's nice little piece of pure science, and all the other nice little pieces of pure science in the field of preconscious perception, retained their pristine purity for a surprisingly long time. Then, in the early au­tumn of 1957, exactly forty years after the publication of Poetzl's original paper, it was announced that their purity was a thing of the past; they had been applied, they had entered the realm of technology...

...And meanwhile other secret messages would be whispered too softly, or squeaked too shrilly, for conscious hearing. Con­sciously the listener might be paying attention to some phrase as "Darling, I love you"; but subliminally, be­neath the threshold of awareness, his incredibly sensi­tive ears and his subconscious mind would be taking in the latest good news about deodorants and laxatives. [or other things ]...

...In the light of what has been said about persuasion-by-association and the enhancement of emotions by subliminal suggestion, let us try to imagine what the political meeting of tomorrow will be like. The candi­date (if there is still a question of candidates), or the appointed representative of the ruling oligarchy, will make his speech for all to hear. Meanwhile the tachistoscopes, the whispering and squeaking machines, the projectors of images so dim that only the subconscious mind can respond to them, will be reinforcing what he says by systematically associating the man and his cause with positively charged words and hallowed images, and by strobonically injecting negatively charged words and odious symbols whenever he men­tions the enemies of the State or the Party. In the United States brief flashes of Abraham Lincoln and the words "government by the people" will be pro­jected upon the rostrum. In Russia the speaker will, of course, be associated with glimpses of Lenin, with the words "people's democracy," with the prophetic beard of Father Marx. Because all this is still safely in the future, we can afford to smile. Ten or twenty years from now, it will probably seem a good deal less amus­ing. For what is now merely science fiction will have become everyday political fact.

Poetzl was one of the portents which, when writing Brave New World, I somehow overlooked. There is no reference in my fable to subliminal projection. It is a mistake of omission which, if I were to rewrite the book today, I should most certainly correct.

X.
Hypnopaedia

...Is hypnopaedia the sort of instrument that officials, delegated to exercise author­ity in a democratic society, ought to be allowed to use at their discretion? In the present instance they are using it only on volunteers and with the best inten­tions. But there is no guarantee that in other cases the intentions will be good or the indoctrination on a vol­untary basis. Any law or social arrangement which makes it possible for officials to be led into temptation is bad. Any law or arrangement which preserves them from being tempted to abuse their delegated power for their own advantage, or for the benefit of the State or of some political, economic or ecclesiastical organiza­tion, is good. Hypnopaedia, if it is effective, would be a tremendously powerful instrument in the hands of any­one in a position to impose suggestions upon a captive audience. A democratic society is a society dedicated to the proposition that power is often abused and should therefore be entrusted to officials only in limited amounts and for limited periods of time. In such a society, the use of hypnopaedia by officials should be regulated by law -- that is, of course, if hypnopaedia is genuinely an instrument of power...

...From the heightened suggestibility associated with light sleep and hypnosis let us pass to the normal sug­gestibility of those who are awake -- or at least who think they are awake. (In fact, as the Buddhists insist, most of us are half asleep all the time and go through life as somnambulists obeying somebody else's suggestions. Enlightenment is total awakeness. The word "Buddha" can be translated as "The Wake.")

Genetically, every human being is unique and in many ways unlike every other human being. The range of individual variation from the statistical norm is amazingly wide. And the statistical norm, let us remember, is useful only in actuarial calculations, not in real life. In real life there is no such person as the average man. There are only particular men, women and children, each with his or her inborn idiosyncra­sies of mind and body, and all trying (or being com­pelled) to squeeze their biological diversities into the uniformity of some cultural mold.

Suggestibility is one of the qualities that vary significantly from individual to individual. Environ­mental factors certainly play their part in making one person more responsive to suggestion than another; but there are also, no less certainly, constitutional differences in the suggestibility of individuals. Ex­treme resistance to suggestion is rather rare. Fortu­nately so. For if everyone were as unsuggestible as some people are, social life would be impossible. Socie­ties can function with a reasonable degree of efficiency because, in varying degrees, most people are fairly sug­gestible. Extreme suggestibility is probably about as rare as extreme unsuggestibility. And this also is fortunate. For if most people were as responsive to out­side suggestions as the men and women at the extreme limits of suggestibility, free, rational choice would be­come, for the majority of the electorate, virtually im­possible, and democratic institutions could not survive, or even come into existence....

...The ideals of democracy and freedom confront the brute fact of human suggestibility. One-fifth of every electorate can be hypnotized almost in the twinkling of an eye, one-seventh can be relieved of pain by injec­tions of water, one-quarter will respond promptly and enthusiastically to hypnopaedia. And to these all too co-operative minorities must be added the slow-start­ing majorities, whose less extreme suggestibility can be effectually exploited by anyone who knows his busi­ness and is prepared to take the necessary time and trouble.

Is individual freedom compatible with a high degree of individual suggestibility? Can democratic institu­tions survive the subversion from within of skilled mind-manipulators trained in the science and art of exploiting the suggestibility both of individuals and of crowds? To what extent can the inborn tendency to be too suggestible for one's own good or the good of a democratic society be neutralized by education? How far can the exploitation of inordinate suggestibility by businessmen and ecclesiastics, by politicians in and out of power, be controlled by law? Explicitly or implic­itly, the first two questions have been discussed in earlier articles. In what follows I shall consider the problems of prevention and cure.

http://www.huxley.net/bnw-revisited/

you know, if you think of it , maybe thats your sub conscious telling you its real? otherwise, why would it enter your consciousness for no reason? the details maybe hard to comprehend, but that dont mean it haint somehow real. probably many other ways its going down too,