What if you're wrong?

[Djann Profile]

What if you're wrong?!?

That's the whole point! Learn to adapt to new information. Consciousness-driven evolution baby!
Your AQ (Adaptation Quotient) makes you more flexible, fluid, allows you to unlock your heart more easily.
We over-value the IQ and become cold, static.
Maybe I'm wrong but it feels right put this way.

Follow your heart <3 , but bring your brain with you!

Namaste _/\_

[Samuelthemule Profile Website]

44z44

thanks, you're right, i should not argue, it is for the most part, just a waste of energy.

Streitsüchtige Narren suchen den zeit vertreib, ich schaetze mal ich gehoere einiger massen dazu, Sie wissen nicht was sonst auf Sie Wartet.
das macht einen eigentlich Traurig, weil mann DOCH so gerne ueber etwas anderes Reden wuerde. Etwas Hoeheres. Das ist aber warscheinlich mein Fehler, weil ich die blöde annahme habe, das ich mit jedem ueber alles gleich Reden sollen kann, naja, kann ja mal passieren. das wichtigste scheint halt: authentisch leben, danke fuer deine ermahnung: das ich mir keine sorgen zu machen brauche. Gehe in Frieden.

What if you're wrong?!?

That's the whole point! Learn to adapt to new information. Consciousness-driven evolution baby!
Your AQ (Adaptation Quotient) makes you more flexible, fluid, allows you to unlock your heart more easily.
We over-value the IQ and become cold, static.
Maybe I'm wrong but it feels right put this way.

Follow your heart <3 , but bring your brain with you!

Namaste _/\_

malkere

awesome post.



christ is not god, mark 10:18

why do you call me good? i am not good, god alone is good

constabul

you are right about what you are arguing about,
but i am not arguing about that,
my point was a different one, words got the better of us.

i am not running in circles, i am defining things so we can stop arguing,
and you are not accepting my own personal definitions,
if you do not accept my own definitions of what i myself mean and believe,
then how can we have a conversation about what i mean?

we cannot.

the truth of the matter is, without a feeling of connection to the universe and other people,
without a feeling of connection to "god" and "karma": the LAWS of the universe,
people do what they please, and overstep boundaries which they do not even know exist.

babies who are left abandoned by their mothers die, without human contact and warmth. so too, something dies within people and they do not learn the reason to "be good": not to lie, not to cheat, not to steal, not to rape, not to kill if you grow up in a city, and see the violence around you, eventually you succumb to it, if you truly know no better.
if we had no language and concept of god, of "the all", how would we feel connected to it, and how would we share that connection? i do not believe it is not totally innate in humans, as an idea and feeling, and not totally perfected in childhood, it is an experience which is shared and passed on, and most imporantly developed.

"god" is that power which the pure and original people who lived on the earth deeply understood and felt connected to, which gave them empathy and connection to one another.
god is not just some bearded man in the sky, if you are attacking that version, then you are attacking a straw man, and i will not continue to debate it, as i have restated the point over and over: that is not what i am talking about.

dostoyevsky put it well: either, you call yourself god, or you say, there is something greater than me.

(there is something divine about life, something higher, within and without, and life is a journey to get there).

there is no other way: either you say you are the pinnacle of all existence: you are god, and an "atheist" i.e, you do not believe in god outside of yourself; outside of your current LIMITED spectrum and horizon, or: you admit; you have room to grow, and there is divinity within all which can unfold.

organized religion is one of the greatest obstacles the individual faces on his path to enlightenment. getting stuck in a building or being held down by community and its rules.
i wish you would understand this. genuine friendship, companionship, time, shared with love and respect for one another, where souls are treated as unique and equal: that is what a church is, that is what a true community is.

NO DOGMA.

you have mars in your signature: you know ares the greek god: mars?
did you look in my "gods of war" thread? you should look up the word bellicose, i believe it applies quite well to the two of us. dogs and vultures are the animals associated with mars, we are behaving like dogs: barking and insisting on our own perspectives, lol.



as for "i have some answers": yes i believe we all have some answers, simple ones: grow our own food, stop the usury based currency system, stop the wars, expose the powers that be... all that we need to do is get on with it.

[Earthspirit7 Profile]

What if you're wrong?!?

We are ALL wrong cause all we have had thru out our lifetime is disinformation from all books of learning, expecially our history books...they have all been tampered with so the masses could be controlled and dumbed down.

Now as to some of the points made in comments here:
Our higher power {spark of God} is the only one thing that is always right, but we don't listen to that as much as we should.
If you have not raised the level of your soul by being the best that you can be you will think it is OK to do the criminal acts like: child abuse, sexual abuse, sex trafficking, murder, vaccinations, the holocaust, the holy wars...you get what I mean by now.
Light vs darkness { the cabal as we know it}
"Darkness never is in control unless a person invites it! Experimenting with dark ideas such as satanic practices, giving into the temptations of greed and dishonesty, striving for ever-greater power and obtaining it through tyranny are wide open invitations to the darkness. This is vastly different from a soul agreeing to play a harsh or hurtful role in a pre-birth agreement. " http://www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=142&z=2

Beginning of darkness:
"Maybe what the Bible says about a vengeful God is right, but not everyone is disobeying His laws so why do billions have to pay for what a few are doing? And: The litany of horror continues unabated. Every day we hear news of yet another outrage—manipulation of people's minds, mass theft, invasions, imprisonment, deliberate starvation, rape, child molestation, slavery, torture, even attempted genocide. And still a thunderous silence from 'supreme HQ'. Why?
Beginnings are and eternally shall be in Creator, It wanted all souls throughout the cosmos to have the same privilege as the first ones, and It so decreed that the selected gods and goddesses have the right and responsibility to establish laws governing their respective universes, but they are bound to honor Its cosmic laws that include free will.
14. Somewhere along the line, after creating materials for both humans and animals were available, free will got out of hand—you know that as the story of Lucifer and his band of fallen angels. They started combining the two kinds of materials to produce intelligent half-human, half-animal creatures such as the centaurs, satyrs, mermaids and mermen and others mentioned in your mythology. Some were designed to do work that humans could not do or didn’t want to, such as swiftly carrying messages or working underwater, and others were made simply to be ferocious, like dragons on land or in the seas. Since there was then no DNA programming for aging, those intelligent creatures could live in misery for thousands of your calendar years.
15. The more Lucifer and his followers delighted in making those kinds of life forms, the farther they fell from the light. When some realized that they were misusing their gift of free will, they returned to manifesting in the light. Others kept producing the creatures of their deprived ideas, creating denser and denser energy as their light kept dimming until only the spark of connection to Creator that was their life force remained. The negativity created by their thoughts and deeds and the agony of all the creatures they made formed the massive powerful force field called the “dark forces.”
16. It is from that source that souls anywhere in this universe who have proclivity toward greed, ruthlessness and lust for power become puppets of that abject darkness. In recent times this scientific principle of interaction that is from Creator has become known as the law of attraction, or “like attracts” like. The energy of souls’ dark thoughts and desires attracts the same kind of energy in that vast field of negativity and brings it into the souls’ lives, their worlds and their worlds’ collective consciousness. That is what happened to Earth. After being populated, the planet that once was known throughout this universe as a paradise and one of God’s favored creations became engulfed in the negativity brought by those civilizations.
17. Only Creator can amend Its laws, and in the case of free will, It has done so twice. In antiquity, the densest, or darkest, souls used their free will not only to capture weaker souls, but also to usurp those weaker souls’ free will. That created such an imbalance between the light and the darkness throughout the cosmos that to regain the balance essential to keep the motion of all bodies relatively steady, Creator decreed that the darkest souls must restore to the captive souls their free will. And so they did, but those souls that were so long deprived of exercising free will were easily manipulated by the darkness until they started accepting the light constantly offered."
http://www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=142&z=2


IMHO, free will keeps us from doing darkness or not, but darkness has made free will decisions very hard cause of peer pressure and seeing that dark always seems to get ahead than the light does.,.... but remember they sold their souls to get what they have.
"So, while it may seem that God is allowing the free will of dark ones to prevail over the free will of lighted souls, never is that so! He would like life on Earth to be in love and peace, but He cannot stop those who are intent upon working against that kind of world. And because every soul in this universe is a part of Him and He loves all of his soul-parts unconditionally, He doesn’t side with one over another. "..{.this is one point that sam made.}
"“You are worried that I’m taking sides, or better said, can’t take sides. Then who better to set you straight, my child? I am as much the gentleness and searching and on the lighted pathway as you wish to be, yet there is the part of me that equally is, and cannot deny, that soul whose interests and actions and motives are what you call evil. I am not separate from that soul, and whatever that soul does and all of its effects, however ‘ungodly,’ as you think, become within my composite and are an inseparable part of me. So, to say that I could ‘take sides’ of myself is just plain unscientific, isn't it?” ….http://www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=142&z=2

REligion:
. The historic side of religion is not that positive. The radical beliefs of some individuals are the distortions passed down through generations of hatred and oppression; but the basis of religion did not derive from noble purposes. The intent of the originators, who then ruled church and state, was to control the masses through rigorous religious rules. They decided what should constitute sinning and claimed that whoever sinned would feel the wrath of a vengeful God. When Christianity arose, the people in power altered the records that became the Bible so it would suit their purposes, portrayed Jesus as the “only son of God,” and put layers of “authorities” between the people and God. They also were greedy and amassed great wealth by instituting tithing and other means of extracting money from the believers.
26. The influence of religion through the ages has been so powerful that it led to the Crusades, persecution, execution, torture, imprisonment, assassinations. The divisiveness, caste systems and ostracism that religions have caused still exists, and so do fear of disobeying “God’s laws” and guilt and remorse when one strays from strict adherence. In the Mormon Church, families of the deceased can pay to have their beloved souls assured one of the limited spaces in heaven; and, despite glowing accounts from some celebrities, the Church of Scientology basically is a mind control organization. Even Satanism is officially acknowledged as a religion!
27. Of all that the darkness has devised throughout the ages to capture souls, religions have been the most effective in keeping believers in bondage. Once back in spirit life, souls realize that they had fallen into that spell still another time and once again they choose to break religion’s hold when next they incarnate.
28. Although some of the foregoing has been mentioned in previous messages, it bears repeating because the religiously devout will become lightworkers’ greatest challenge. There will be widespread disbelief and confusion, and likely militant resistance in some quarters, when ancient records are brought forth as evidence of what we have been telling you. The souls whose religion is the foundation of their lives will need compassion, patience and kindness—simply by living your light you can assist those whose minds are ajar. We shall rejoice with you when they embrace the truth of their power and unlimited potential as parts of God, but if they choose to deny that, it would not be a failing on your part. Or theirs. No experience, however different from soul contracts, ever is wasted, and each soul in its own timing will return to the pure love essence of its Beginnings
http://www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=120&z=2

ET/UFOs
6. The dark ones know that once this long-denied truth no longer is deniable, it opens a virtual Pandora’s box of their heinous activities throughout the ages. Thus, even as lightworkers are rejoicing that at long last the presence of other civilizations is publicly confirmed, the dark minds will be furiously churning out fear. As puppets of the off-planet dark forces, they know that the energy of fear puts a barrier between light and consciousness, and always the goal of that powerful force field of negativity has been to conquer souls by capturing their light. Their puppets will make every effort to convince the populace that the ETs are to be feared, they have come to conquer and enslave.
{like all the movies depict in the last ten years.}
http://www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=113&z=2


Ok this is getting very long, all I can suggest is that you go and read at the referenced site...if you like this info. I am still trying to find the references for "17 centuries of our history" being disinformation.....so if all we have been taught is disinformation/distortions how can we be right in our thoughts until we learn the ACTUAL truth of our history, religions that we practice, etc.???. You can form an opinion, but you can't say you are 100% correct.

[Stratosfear Profile]

What if you're wrong?!?

We are ALL wrong cause all we have had thru out our lifetime is disinformation from all books of learning, expecially our history books...they have all been tampered with so the masses could be controlled and dumbed down.

Now as to some of the points made in comments here:
Our higher power {spark of God} is the only one thing that is always right, but we don't listen to that as much as we should.
If you have not raised the level of your soul by being the best that you can be you will think it is OK to do the criminal acts like: child abuse, sexual abuse, sex trafficking, murder, vaccinations, the holocaust, the holy wars...you get what I mean by now.
Light vs darkness { the cabal as we know it}
"Darkness never is in control unless a person invites it! Experimenting with dark ideas such as satanic practices, giving into the temptations of greed and dishonesty, striving for ever-greater power and obtaining it through tyranny are wide open invitations to the darkness. This is vastly different from a soul agreeing to play a harsh or hurtful role in a pre-birth agreement. " http://www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=142&z=2

Beginning of darkness:
"Maybe what the Bible says about a vengeful God is right, but not everyone is disobeying His laws so why do billions have to pay for what a few are doing? And: The litany of horror continues unabated. Every day we hear news of yet another outrage—manipulation of people's minds, mass theft, invasions, imprisonment, deliberate starvation, rape, child molestation, slavery, torture, even attempted genocide. And still a thunderous silence from 'supreme HQ'. Why?
Beginnings are and eternally shall be in Creator, It wanted all souls throughout the cosmos to have the same privilege as the first ones, and It so decreed that the selected gods and goddesses have the right and responsibility to establish laws governing their respective universes, but they are bound to honor Its cosmic laws that include free will.
14. Somewhere along the line, after creating materials for both humans and animals were available, free will got out of hand—you know that as the story of Lucifer and his band of fallen angels. They started combining the two kinds of materials to produce intelligent half-human, half-animal creatures such as the centaurs, satyrs, mermaids and mermen and others mentioned in your mythology. Some were designed to do work that humans could not do or didn’t want to, such as swiftly carrying messages or working underwater, and others were made simply to be ferocious, like dragons on land or in the seas. Since there was then no DNA programming for aging, those intelligent creatures could live in misery for thousands of your calendar years.
15. The more Lucifer and his followers delighted in making those kinds of life forms, the farther they fell from the light. When some realized that they were misusing their gift of free will, they returned to manifesting in the light. Others kept producing the creatures of their deprived ideas, creating denser and denser energy as their light kept dimming until only the spark of connection to Creator that was their life force remained. The negativity created by their thoughts and deeds and the agony of all the creatures they made formed the massive powerful force field called the “dark forces.”
16. It is from that source that souls anywhere in this universe who have proclivity toward greed, ruthlessness and lust for power become puppets of that abject darkness. In recent times this scientific principle of interaction that is from Creator has become known as the law of attraction, or “like attracts” like. The energy of souls’ dark thoughts and desires attracts the same kind of energy in that vast field of negativity and brings it into the souls’ lives, their worlds and their worlds’ collective consciousness. That is what happened to Earth. After being populated, the planet that once was known throughout this universe as a paradise and one of God’s favored creations became engulfed in the negativity brought by those civilizations.
17. Only Creator can amend Its laws, and in the case of free will, It has done so twice. In antiquity, the densest, or darkest, souls used their free will not only to capture weaker souls, but also to usurp those weaker souls’ free will. That created such an imbalance between the light and the darkness throughout the cosmos that to regain the balance essential to keep the motion of all bodies relatively steady, Creator decreed that the darkest souls must restore to the captive souls their free will. And so they did, but those souls that were so long deprived of exercising free will were easily manipulated by the darkness until they started accepting the light constantly offered."
http://www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=142&z=2


IMHO, free will keeps us from doing darkness or not, but darkness has made free will decisions very hard cause of peer pressure and seeing that dark always seems to get ahead than the light does.,.... but remember they sold their souls to get what they have.
"So, while it may seem that God is allowing the free will of dark ones to prevail over the free will of lighted souls, never is that so! He would like life on Earth to be in love and peace, but He cannot stop those who are intent upon working against that kind of world. And because every soul in this universe is a part of Him and He loves all of his soul-parts unconditionally, He doesn’t side with one over another. "..{.this is one point that sam made.}
"“You are worried that I’m taking sides, or better said, can’t take sides. Then who better to set you straight, my child? I am as much the gentleness and searching and on the lighted pathway as you wish to be, yet there is the part of me that equally is, and cannot deny, that soul whose interests and actions and motives are what you call evil. I am not separate from that soul, and whatever that soul does and all of its effects, however ‘ungodly,’ as you think, become within my composite and are an inseparable part of me. So, to say that I could ‘take sides’ of myself is just plain unscientific, isn't it?” ….http://www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=142&z=2

REligion:
. The historic side of religion is not that positive. The radical beliefs of some individuals are the distortions passed down through generations of hatred and oppression; but the basis of religion did not derive from noble purposes. The intent of the originators, who then ruled church and state, was to control the masses through rigorous religious rules. They decided what should constitute sinning and claimed that whoever sinned would feel the wrath of a vengeful God. When Christianity arose, the people in power altered the records that became the Bible so it would suit their purposes, portrayed Jesus as the “only son of God,” and put layers of “authorities” between the people and God. They also were greedy and amassed great wealth by instituting tithing and other means of extracting money from the believers.
26. The influence of religion through the ages has been so powerful that it led to the Crusades, persecution, execution, torture, imprisonment, assassinations. The divisiveness, caste systems and ostracism that religions have caused still exists, and so do fear of disobeying “God’s laws” and guilt and remorse when one strays from strict adherence. In the Mormon Church, families of the deceased can pay to have their beloved souls assured one of the limited spaces in heaven; and, despite glowing accounts from some celebrities, the Church of Scientology basically is a mind control organization. Even Satanism is officially acknowledged as a religion!
27. Of all that the darkness has devised throughout the ages to capture souls, religions have been the most effective in keeping believers in bondage. Once back in spirit life, souls realize that they had fallen into that spell still another time and once again they choose to break religion’s hold when next they incarnate.
28. Although some of the foregoing has been mentioned in previous messages, it bears repeating because the religiously devout will become lightworkers’ greatest challenge. There will be widespread disbelief and confusion, and likely militant resistance in some quarters, when ancient records are brought forth as evidence of what we have been telling you. The souls whose religion is the foundation of their lives will need compassion, patience and kindness—simply by living your light you can assist those whose minds are ajar. We shall rejoice with you when they embrace the truth of their power and unlimited potential as parts of God, but if they choose to deny that, it would not be a failing on your part. Or theirs. No experience, however different from soul contracts, ever is wasted, and each soul in its own timing will return to the pure love essence of its Beginnings
http://www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=120&z=2

ET/UFOs
6. The dark ones know that once this long-denied truth no longer is deniable, it opens a virtual Pandora’s box of their heinous activities throughout the ages. Thus, even as lightworkers are rejoicing that at long last the presence of other civilizations is publicly confirmed, the dark minds will be furiously churning out fear. As puppets of the off-planet dark forces, they know that the energy of fear puts a barrier between light and consciousness, and always the goal of that powerful force field of negativity has been to conquer souls by capturing their light. Their puppets will make every effort to convince the populace that the ETs are to be feared, they have come to conquer and enslave.
{like all the movies depict in the last ten years.}
http://www.matthewbooks.com/mm/anmviewer.asp?a=113&z=2


Ok this is getting very long, all I can suggest is that you go and read at the referenced site...if you like this info. I am still trying to find the references for "17 centuries of our history" being disinformation.....so if all we have been taught is disinformation/distortions how can we be right in our thoughts until we learn the ACTUAL truth of our history, religions that we practice, etc.???. You can form an opinion, but you can't say you are 100% correct.

And how do you know that this isn't disinfo?

[Earthspirit7 Profile]

Cause my soul feels it is NOT.....

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http://youtu.be/urlTBBKTO68

[Constabul Profile]

constabul

you are right about what you are arguing about,
but i am not arguing about that,
my point was a different one, words got the better of us.

i am not running in circles, i am defining things so we can stop arguing,
and you are not accepting my own personal definitions,
if you do not accept my own definitions of what i myself mean and believe,
then how can we have a conversation about what i mean?

My point was not to rake you over the coals, which inadvertently happened as a result of you trying to define something that was not apart of the original context of the comments.

It is great for you that you feel you have it figured out. No matter how i feel or think about your position, really does not matter. I am not accepting the definitions of what you say because they were moot to the statements you originally made.

You are not an authority to Judge what is in another mans (or woman's) heart, be they athiest, mormon jew christian mussie or any other favors of ice cream we call belief.
You can only speak for your self, and in that, from only your point of view. If you think there are reasons people are the way they are, that is fine. But that does not mean you are right. Nor right about them.

So don't be surprised and offended when you make such comments and others call bullshit on you, because in Reality, YOU do not know. What you think "walking in the foot steps of christ" is,... Is not the same as the next, who maybe no less devote a follower, or believer. Christ may not even be a factor.

You may think that being good is in effect being christ like, But people were doing so well before ever there was an utterance of the name, or stories told, of christ.

You may think all the god stories lead back to one entity, ...whatever floats your boat man, But that is YOUR belief, not everyone else. There are plenty that would rather cut off your head, verses listening to you line out your theory.

but i am not arguing about that,

There was one simple thing I pointed out, You tried to make it about a whole slew of other shit that had no connection.
Because at the end of the day, You don't know what others think, or what drives their decisions. You are not their Judge. IF you do believe in christ then you would leave that to him.

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