what is it with people scared to show ID to cops?

[Dj637 Profile]

That in the UK you can be arrested if you can't prove who you are.

Concrete, you are wrong my man, you cannot be arrested for not proving who you are unless you have done something wrong. Get it right. It's people passing incorrect info like this that plays into the hands of the authorities. People may be ignorant but people don't have the right to pass that ignorance on as the truth.
If you are questioned for your ID and have done nothing wrong you can walk away without giving anything.

I agree Saint in the UK a crime has to be commited before details must be shown......so far!

Peace
DJ

[Aquarius Profile]

#1 they should mind there own business. They're protectors of the peace, I'm walking down the street as a apparent law abiding drone, minding my own business. Until a cop comes all up in my shit asking for id. And I know that that ID is covered with a suspicious whit substance. I know this because I just left a heavy party. What I don't realize is that my eyes are hanging out of my head, I've got no pants on, and I'm driving not walking. Book it.

[Slowlyawakening Profile]

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[Shaggietrip Profile]

Here is an experience I had.

I had worked a 70 hour work week. Several guys and I went to the tavern for a beer. After 4 beers I decided to walk home because I had ridin there with a co-worker. I was about 4 miles from home. About 1 mile from me house I stopped and sat down on a piece of public property to rest.A car pulls up and the ask me "Are you ok?" "Yes I am just tired thanks" I replied. I get up to continue me walk home. 4 blocks later 2 friggin squads are rolling up behind me. I continue to walk knowing I have done nothing wrong. They speed up infront of me turn there vehicles sideways in the street. I continue to walk past them. At this time the had said nothing just pulled up like Starsky and Hutch. So the jump out there vehicles and start to wlk towards me asking me to stop. I do ofcourse. At this point they ask me where I live. I tell them. No prb there. They them inform me that someone has call stating that there was a man acting strange. LOL I only its they 2 people that had asked me if I was ok.WTF why are people so programed to call police for no damn reason! I then tell The police officers that I had sat down to rest and did not think that was acting strangely. Then The female officer asks me for an ID. My reply was..." Am I being arrested or detained for any reason?" They both turn walk to there cars that are [illegally blocking the street] and leave. WTF I found there actions strange. And the assholes that called them in the first place. What kind of society have we become?

[Electriccity Profile]

Yeah when driving its best to be truthful unless u have warrants or alot of drugs on you. but if u got just a lil bit of weed might as well tell them if they ask if you have anything. cause 9 times out of 10 they will either just take it or write you a fine. but if u lie to them they will take you to jail.

now as for that vid of the police pulling up on that boy and asking for his license. i wouldn't give it to them. only time they really have the right to ask for your license when your not driving is if they have probable cause. like if they think your doing sumtin illegal then they can stop you and ask for your i.d.

[Hellspook Profile]

In a party, I wanted to pee but the toilet was occupied, so I went outside and peed in between 2 cars from the second roof. One of these car had a white stripe on top of it. In the meantime, 2 polices officers were warning my friends to turn down the volume, or else...

I was barely finishing emptying my huge blatter when they both got out, they probably saw a few warm sparkling drops hit their car cause I got flashed while I was zippin up. My friend did evade a search (or not cause I freaking hid myself) but even though they turned the music OFF, police officers came back with a 215 can$ ticket for "public nuisance" or something like this, unrelated to the truth only to piss off my friendz cause they did not catch me.

[528hz Profile]

Since you ask...When they are asking you for ID, they are establishing jurisdiction. If you comply and show them your strawman ID they now have established that you are governed under Admirality law and subject to all Statutes and Acts created under Admirality Law. If you haven't declared yourself to be a Freeman you are hooped.
Hope that helped!

Nuff said!!

There is your answer.

[Thesaint Profile]

Still. By law they can stop anyone they feel like.

Agreed Concrete and they will find something to draw you in if they want or can. Until they get respect back from the people (and they can only get that by being fair but unfortunately the power trip they're on stops them doing so) then the system can never work because their broad brush policy of policing (treating everyone as a suspect until proven otherwise) sucks in the innocent along with the guilty. They are humans with the individual power to use discretion but seem quite in league with the many of their kind to alienate us all. I have no respect for them any more. I will leave it at that.

[Harbin Profile]

Here is an interesting site and a bit from it. Explains many modes of police misconduct. Much more at link.

THE MYTH OF THE ROTTEN APPLE

According to the Knapp Commission, which blew the whistle on the standard police explanation for corruption (he/she's a rotten apple in an otherwise clean barrel), "rotten apples" are either weak individuals who have slipped through the screening process or succumbed to the temptations inherent in police work or deviant individuals who continue their deviance in an environment that gives them ample opportunity. Police departments tend to use the rotten apple theory or some variation of the "rogue cop" story to minimize the public backlash against policing after every exposed act of corruption.

A functional explanation may be closer to the truth, and is indeed supported by almost every scholarly observer on the subject. A functional explanation is that corruption is inherent in society's attempt to enforce unenforceable laws. Another approach is the "occupational socialization" explanation, the polar opposite of rotten apple theory that is sometimes called "rotten barrel" theory. According to this view, the very structure of policing (exposure to unsavory characters, forgetting what you learned in the academy, clannishness, and overzealous, misguided approaches to crime control) provides plenty of opportunities to learn the entrenched patterns of deviant police conduct that have been passed down thru generations.
http://www.policecrimes.com/police_deviance.html