What is NASA hiding?

[Theoracle Profile]

rumor has it we went to the moon but the video footage and pictures were faked because we found something we were not supposed to.
I believe we had the capabilities to send a man in a sealed capsule on the end of a large missile to the moon but the discrepancy's in the pictures and film are questionable as to their authenticity.
Not to mention the original footage was lost for 40 odd years and only found just a little while back.
I would also like to say NASA is hiding a secret space program that is rumored to have a base on one of the moons of Saturn.
But I only have rumors no real evidence.
I dont believe the space program was stopped only the official space program, not the black op space program.
I also dont like the way NASA over exposes its pictures of the moon , Mars and others as it makes me think they are deliberately trying to get rid of the fine details .

[Pitbulterrorist Profile]

don't you just hate it when people refer to war of the worlds as a referance for peoples reaction to aliens. in war of the worlds the people were told that the aliens were attacking the citys thats why people panicked. thats a far cry from telling peole that aliens just exist. you will get a completey differant reaction. if my girlfriend attacked me i'd panick, let alone aliens

[Will69ease Profile]

don't you just hate it when people refer to war of the worlds as a referance for peoples reaction to aliens. in war of the worlds the people were told that the aliens were attacking the citys thats why people panicked. thats a far cry from telling peole that aliens just exist. you will get a completey differant reaction. if my girlfriend attacked me i'd panick, let alone aliens

hahaha, I agree!

[Will69ease Profile]

Note the source of light pointed out by the red arrow at the top center area of the image. Then note the shadows cast on the image near foreground by the rover components and the afoot astronaut on the left as illuminated by the light source.

As you can see, the shadow directions cast do not match what would be expected from a distant light source like the Sun. If the light source was the very distant sunlight, the shadows should be much more similar in their direction on the ground. However, here the shadows fan out at left and right angles in a pronounced way suggesting a much closer single overhead light source just out of camera view. So could the cause be stadium type lights hanging too close over the scene?

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/AS17-134-20400HR.jpg

[Will69ease Profile]

Note the source of light pointed out by the red arrow at the top center area of the image. Then note the shadows cast on the image near foreground by the rover components and the afoot astronaut on the left as illuminated by the light source.

As you can see, the shadow directions cast do not match what would be expected from a distant light source like the Sun. If the light source was the very distant sunlight, the shadows should be much more similar in their direction on the ground. However, here the shadows fan out at left and right angles in a pronounced way suggesting a much closer single overhead light source just out of camera view. So could the cause be stadium type lights hanging too close over the scene?

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/AS17-134-20400HR.jpg

I thought for sure Frutty was going to jump on this.

[Lowsix Profile]

Close subject terrain photography was taken with a super-wide 16 mm lens.

The reason is that it has the capacity to expand the visual angle of view.
In some cases this lens is considered a fisheye lens.

This will account for the distortion of the shadows,
making them appear more 'splayed'
relative to the light sources.

These are often used for interior photography so that the entire room can be captured
without having to stand as far back.

This image was produced by a 15mm lens.
The distortion is consistent with the shadow distortion.



Here are some samples of the distortion found on a 16mm lens.


Here is a view of a wall shot at 35mm:


Compare that to the same shooter position with a 16mm:
drastic difference. They used the 16, to capture an entire view of subjects
without having to walk thrity feet back to capture them all in-frame.



WIKI page demonstrating characteristics of a 16mm fisheye lens as well as the technical explanations of he barrel distortion they produce.

There are many analog images that show and prove this effect quite well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisheye_lens

The above moon surface images are not evidence of a studio light source.

[Will69ease Profile]

It does not appear to be a fish-eye lens to me lowsix, but that was as good an explanation as any I've heard...thanks for your conjecture.

[Lowsix Profile]

It is indeed a 16mm, I looked it up before i said anything.
It was used for all Apollo shots showing close grouping of subjects near the lander
astronauts working on the lander, and technical procedures..

The 70 and 66mm was used for the pano shots.

http://www.myspacemuseum.com/apollocams.htm

[Will69ease Profile]

It is indeed a 16mm, I looked it up before i said anything.
It was used for all Apollo shots showing close grouping of subjects near the lander
astronauts working on the lander, and technical procedures..

The 70 and 66mm was used for the pano shots.

http://www.myspacemuseum.com/apollocams.htm

Wrong! This photo was taken with a 70mm Hasselblad camera. Let's agree to disagree on this one Lowsix.The Apollo 17 mission carried four 70MM cameras, and 23 magazines of film. A total of 3584 images were taken, 1645 in black & white, and 1939 in color.

Magazine J AS17-133-20193 to AS17-133-20375 [183 black & white images (183 surface; 0 orbital; 0 other)]
Magazine B AS17-134-20376 to AS17-134-20532 [157 color images (138 surface; 0 orbital; 19 other)]
Magazine G AS17-135-20533 to AS17-135-20679 [147 black & white images (147 surface; 0 orbital; 0 other)]
Magazine H AS17-136-20682 to AS17-136-20865 [184 black & white images (186 surface; 0 orbital; 0 other)]
Magazine C AS17-137-20866 to AS17-137-21027 [162 color images (162 surface; 0 orbital; 0 other)]
Magazine I AS17-138-21028 to AS17-138-21183 [156 black & white images (157 surface; 0 orbital; 0 other)]
Magazine K AS17-139-21185 to AS17-139-21350 [166 black & white images (92 surface; 74 orbital; 0 other)]
Magazine E AS17-140-21351 to AS17-140-21509 [159 color images (159 surface; 0 orbital; 0 other)]
Magazine L AS17-141-21510 to AS17-141-21668 [159 black & white images (159 surface; 0 orbital; 0 other)]
Magazine M AS17-142-21669 to AS17-142-21833 [165 black & white images (165 surface; 0 orbital; 0 other)]
Magazine N AS17-143-21834 to AS17-143-21982 [149 black & white images (149 surface; 0 orbital; 0 other)]
Magazine R AS17-144-21983 to AS17-144-22132 [150 black & white images (150 surface; 0 orbital; 0 other)]
Magazine D AS17-145-22133 to AS17-145-22288 [156 color images (90 surface; 26 orbital; 40 other)]
Magazine F AS17-146-22289 to AS17-146-22450 [162 color images (162 surface; 0 orbital; 0 other)]
Magazine A AS17-147-22451 to AS17-147-22606 [156 color images (138 surface; 18 orbital; 0 other)]
Magazine NN AS17-148-22607 to AS17-148-22775 [169 color images (0 surface; 10 orbital; 159 other)]
Magazine KK AS17-149-22776 to AS17-149-22941 [166 color images (0 surface; 142 orbital; 24 other)]
Magazine LL AS17-150-22942 to AS17-150-23105 [164 color images (0 surface; 164 orbital; 0 other)]
Magazine OO AS17-151-23106 to AS17-151-23269 [164 color images (0 surface; 148 orbital; 16 other)]
Magazine PP AS17-152-23270 to AS17-152-23420 [151 color images (0 surface; 18 orbital; 133 other)]
Magazine MM AS17-153-23421 to AS17-153-23593 [173 color images (0 surface; 173 orbital; 0 other)]
Magazine QQ AS17-154-23594 to AS17-154-23689 [96 black & white images (0 surface; 91 orbital; 5 other)]
Magazine RR AS17-155-23690 to AS17-155-23776 [87 black & white images (0 surface; 87 orbital; 0 other)]

[Will69ease Profile]

Apollo Image Atlas
70mm Hasselblad Image Catalog
Apollo 17, Magazine B
Images AS17-134-20376 to AS17-134-20532
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apoll ... azine/?134