What the tobacco companies don't want you to know!

Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:17 am » by **Zedd1**

Evidence Suggests E-Cigs Safer than Cigarettes

“Taking these products off the market would force thousands of users to return to cigarette smoking,” Siegel said. “Why would the FDA and the anti-smoking groups want to take an action that is going to seriously harm the public’s health? The only ones who would be protected by a ban on e-cigarettes are the tobacco companies, as these new products represent the first real threat to their profits in decades.“

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Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:27 am » by **Bitterdregs**

I was terribly po'd when Obama banned Clove cigs. They are made in Indonesia, chemicals are not used. They help people with neurological problems because clove is a natural anesthetic. Who profits from these cigs being removed ? US tobacco companies who load smokes with chemicals The pharamseutical companies sell more pain medication.

Obama's reasoning was that flavored cigs are attractive to kids. Kids can't afford cloves. They were at 10 bucks a pack when they were banned. 4 to 5 bucks higher per pack than regular smokes. Predictably, US menthols were not banned. Good grief, almost all kids start out on marlboro's. Obama was clearly lying about his reasons. He banned the one cigarette that had no chemicals and had benefits for people with neurological disorders.

Now e smokes.Our freedoms being taken away and nobody complains..especially if it's Obama that instigates it. " Oh he's our saviour, please take our freedoms !"

Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:34 am » by **Epicfailure**

I usually consider links to blogs as spam, but since you already have more than 1 post and this is highly relevant:

I can agree 100% with you, I did the E-Cigarette thing and I quit after 2 weeks of using the E-Cigarettes, after the nicotine withdrawals were gone, I quit using the E-Cigarettes too...

so now I am smoke free for 6 months on December 30th! no struggles, no regrets (except when withdrawls happened I felt clammy)

these things do work, it's not a gimmick, but it does take adjusting from a smoke to a vapor to get used to it, but once you are used to it, you will realize if you can switch from regs to vapor smoke, then you can just quit altogether.

10 year smoker and now I don't smoke.

If the FDA bans these it is only proof that they want people to keep smoking regular cigarettes and they could care less about how much the price goes up on those because people will still pay it and have to smoke the nicotine which is what keeps them addicted.

they don't want an alternative that lures people to quit smoking, because they know this product works and is safe for people and they have no way of regulating a vapor without nicotine ( some do have nicotine though but if regulation comes the non- nicotine ones will be regulated and taxed as well)

this is only for government profiteering.

P.S. if you are serious about getting these, please , PLEASE!!!!! get the vapor with NO NICOTINE!!! you will thank yourself for it after you have gone 3 days without smoking a regular cigarette... the withdrawls last a good 2 to 7 days.

or if you are one of those people that think everything is as easy as the drop of a hat, them by all means just quit cold turkey, but don't bitch about it to me.

anyone need a link or questions just private message me, I have a link to site that will get you started and for the lowest possible price ( that I have found in america)

Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:40 am » by **The57ironman**

bitterdregs wrote:I was terribly po'd when Obama banned Clove cigs. They are made in Indonesia, chemicals are not used. They help people with neurological problems because clove is a natural anesthetic. Who profits from these cigs being removed ? US tobacco companies who load smokes with chemicals The pharamseutical companies sell more pain medication.

Obama's reasoning was that flavored cigs are attractive to kids. Kids can't afford cloves. They were at 10 bucks a pack when they were banned. 4 to 5 bucks higher per pack than regular smokes. Predictably, US menthols were not banned. Good grief, almost all kids start out on marlboro's. Obama was clearly lying about his reasons. He banned the one cigarette that had no chemicals and had benefits for people with neurological disorders.

Now e smokes.Our freedoms being taken away and nobody complains..especially if it's Obama that instigates it. " Oh he's our saviour, please take our freedoms !"

yeah...no sh*t.....same here ......po'd ain't the word.....

those cloves did it for me as well....

please take more of our freedoms

Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:42 am » by **The57ironman**

and smokers taxes pay for childrens hospitalization????

Sat Dec 18, 2010 1:10 am » by **Bitterdregs**

epic, I'd like that link but I'm new here. I can't figure out how to PM you LOL

I used cloves for pain, as I have quite a bit of nerve damage and am allergic to all opiates. I take neurontin which has given me my legs back but the clove cigs really helped take the edge off. My true addiction part of smoking is psychological. it's hand to mouth.