When did diclose TV become the bible channel?

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Disclose.tv became "the Bible Channel" shortly after the extremist right went absolutely bonkers with Obama's swearing in. The same day America at large decided that kicking the NWO club (Bush, Cheney, Rove, Fox) to the curb was probably a good idea.

So you wouldn't classify the current administration as another NWO club? I find that hard to believe. Our standing in the world is no better, and we've appeared sheepish at the same time.

The biggest difference in the 2 administrations is the battle field. Obama has gone to war with our free market system. He's bailed out huge companies just to watch them fail, and to have government interest in the companies. He has not roped in the Federal Reserve, and seems to be doing its bidding. He lied about who he was going to impose taxes on, he's spent trillions of dollars and left no foreseeable means of being able to pay it back without rampant inflation and taxation.

In the months he has been in office, he has done everything in his power to destroy the dollar. Whether it was by design or by ignorance is irrelevant, it's done.

The rack and file liberals (yourself), will back everything the man does and justify it as enlightenment. Again, your mouth pieces and brilliant minds are the likes of comedian commentators with no experience but full scathing wit and sarcasm. When a Ron Paul, or Gerald Celente comes on Fox news, your only retaliation is to call them liars and hate mongers and then destroy the credibility of the people that actually listen to what they are saying.

It's boring really, but it's expected.

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Hey Spock! Long time no debate

It's astonishing that you still haven't learned to filter your reality based on facts and not media based spin and circus acts like Beck. Every single time you come at me with this stuff, it's just an admission that you haven't actually looked deeper into the issues at hand. You are a self proclaimed Fox lover after all and accepting their spin as your personal gospel is apparently the only truth you can understand.

One point of spin that is extremely relevant right now is just how many people want citizen funded/driven health care. Watching Fox as your only media source, you might be forgiven if you thought the entire country hated the idea but that is just patently false. A minority of Americans are opposed to blanket care. This is another case of rightwing extremism coloring the truth with their oddball (and Darth Vader like) agenda. Pay taxes for guns, ammo, alcohol and tobacco? HELL YEAH! Pay taxes to ensure that every citizen is cared for when ill...NO FREAKIN WAY MAN! If only that narrow sliver of a bible belt would look at the examples set by other countries who have successfully integrated tax based healthcare into the fabric of their societies (without going broke or compromising ANYTHING). America really is in the dark ages on that one.

But that skirts the larger issues doesn't it? There is no middle ground here is there? You are either a person that respects humanity, diversity and unity or you are a centrist and a cultural xenophobe. You either pray to Jesus or you think religion is a means of control or outdated, primitive nonsense. Some opposing viewpoints are just too difficult to navigate.

Assumptions. And of course they're wrong.

You're putting words in my mouth that Fox News is my only news source - that's rediculous. And you've never mentioned your news sources - intersting. I read a ton of sites everyday and form my own opinion based on the way I feel about it.

But you don't want to read that, it would be too hard for you to stomach that people can actually form their own opinion and still be conservative.

As far as middle ground on Christiantiy - you obviously haven't read my posts and understand how I see it. If you did you would know that I live in the grey areas of Christianity, why? Because I do think for myself.

Again though, that perspective wouldn't help your agenda of marginalising everything I say - so it's easy to overlook.

As you try to come across as some great philosopher of our time, realize that you're only exposing yourself as a extention of our cultural demise - a.k.a. Pelosi.

And as far as the healthcare issue goes - again you show you haven't read my posts. I am an advocate of the government getting invloved in our health insurance, but I am worried about many different factors. But I am against the government meddling in our healtchare system

But what do you read or watch for your information? You must read Fox News everyday like me to be such an expert on how everything that comes from them is a lie.

The fact is - you hate anything conservative, so you look down your nose at it. No different for James Carville or Rahm Emmanuel.