Where Did the Maya Go?

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PostSun Nov 03, 2013 12:09 am » by Kinninigan


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Where Did the Maya Go?

Well, there certainly is an awful lot going on just now, isn't there? Paradigms and belief systems are being crushed beneath the weight of the indifferent corruption which they spawned, as a gnarly case of reality cramps sets in among the masses across the planet. The planning of future wars while still mired down in the ones of our own making appeals to fewer people by the day, and thus the awakening surges like a tsunami across a planet in the throes of transformation, between Scylla and Charybdis, as it were. Eroded by built in corruption, the mighty capitalist empire falls in upon itself now as the law of unforeseen consequences plays merry hob with the gatekeepers ability to keep it all together. Humpty Dumpty.

Simultaneously with those preparing for Armageddon & a side order of apocalypse; there are those who are preparing for something altogether different, something transcendent they have been waiting their entire lives for, which is now at hand as we at last pass out of the Kali Yuga and into the gates of Aquarius. How very interesting and convenient it is to have all of this happening just as the renowned Mayan calendar ends one Baktun and begins another. It rather makes sense.

Where we are today reminds me a whole lot of the fall of the Mayan empire, as they too fell to the combined foes of conspicuous over consumption of finite resources, war, drought, disease, and overpopulation. Yes, the Maya were masters of time, and certainly architecture, as what they built and maintained for 2000 years was more advanced than the Babylonians or even the Egyptians. Still more impressive is that they did all of it without the benefit of metal tools, the wheel or even pack animals. Like us, they were also an aggressive and bloodthirsty lot given to wholesale human sacrifice, which included children painted with Maya Blue pigment and sacrificed to the water god by being thrown into the Cenote, a natural forming limestone sinkhole holding ground water.
That they also used the same source for drinking water was no doubt a contributing influence to their eventual downfall...which brings me to my question for today...

Where Did the Maya Go ?

In the modern day state of Chiapas, Mexico at the site of the ancient Maya city of Palenque, stands the largest known Mesoamerican stepped pyramid. It's called the Temple of Inscriptions and is a funeral monument for King K'inich Janaab Pakal, who ruled the great Maya empire from age twelve for nearly seventy years. Pakal was responsible for much of the construction and expansion of Palenque, as well as the empire and in the fullness of time, was deified. As was the general custom of Mayan rulers, it was a very big thing to be able to trace one's linage directly back to the ancestors from which they sprang forth...the sky people...so it's no great surprise they said that King Pakal communicated with the ancestors.

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Something I have wondered all my life is how can science ignore the fact that a great many indigenous people, including the Maya, have origin myths which include sky people coming from the heavens to teach them - and in every single ancient culture there is a promise by the gods, to one day return! Clearly the Maya cosmology included the existence of portals to other worlds or dimensions, many in the form of the T shaped Tau Cross carved into solid walls, and other times as windows themselves. This same exact thing has been discovered in Egyptian, Hopi, and Anasazi sites as well. Essentially, the Tau cross represents the sacred tree at the center of creation. Consider also that the Maya deity Kukulkan, the feathered serpent, is nearly identical to other flying feathered serpents found in other sacred belief structures around the world; such as the Nagas in the Mahabharata from ancient India. Hmmm, perhaps something else that science is reluctant to discuss, or investigate. Considering the Mayan creation story; is it so unreasonable to conclude as some do, that in the end, they returned from where they originated ~ the sky? Perhaps Erich Von Daniken was right about the depiction carved into King Pakal's sarcophagus lid being that of the king himself at the controls of a flying craft of some sort.

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Many years after king Pakal's reign, the Mayan empire was in it's final stages of disintegration. After the northern city of Calakmul sacked Palenque in 711 it was pretty much downhill from there, as the many various city-states began warring with each other for supreme dominance, over a dead civilization. The question remains...What happened to the Maya? Where did they go? Did some of them make use of portals, while others departed aboard spacecraft? Or, did they all just eventually die off or become assimilated into other cultures? Perhaps, as many conjecture, some of the Maya may well have departed their homeland and migrated somewhere else; as humans tend to do when their homeland is devastated. If so, where might they have gone to start over and begin again, what lands might have called to them with the promise of a peaceful future?

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In February of 2000 a group of archaeologists examine an unidentified site in Georgia's Chattahoochee national forest. It is a massive configuration of 300 stone mounds. The site is carbon dated to 1000 AD, and becomes known as the Track Rock Ruins. Soon, controversial evidence surfaces linking the site to Maya prophecy. According to Creek Indian expert Richard Thornton: "Regarding the Mayans migrating into Georgia, it's not theory - it's fact." The Itza Maya moved north into what is now Georgia, becoming the Creek Indians. Thornton notes similarities in language, architecture, use of water, terracing hillsides, art, iconography, and temple alignment; to substantiate his findings.
Earlier this year the History channel aired the pilot episode of "America Unearthed" featuring Scott Wolter, forensic geologist & president of American Petroglyph Services. The episode, [complete video below] examines the entire Maya-Georgia connection.

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Among the artifacts discovered at the track rock ruins are spiral mounds, which are Identical to spiral mounds found in Ocmulgee Georgia and Xochitecal Mexico. The Creek Indians once used these mounds for their sacred ceremonial Snake dance. Hmmm, only slightly reminiscent of a feathered serpent god being honored in dance. Along with nearly identical iconography as the Maya, the Creek Indians had very similar sacred beliefs & practices as well...just one more link, strengthening the connection.

Not far away from the Track Rock ruins is an ancient artifact known as the Forsyth Petroglyph which essentially is a great stone boulder about nine feet long by three feet wide, in the shape of some cosmic potato. What makes it so interesting are the 17 symbols carved into it's surface which seem to indicate a possible ancient event.
The thing is, that nobody knows what the symbols refer to because nobody can read them, and even the oldest Indian inhabitants of the area do not remember - Nobody knows what the message on the stone means...it is very ancient.

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Some folks believe it makes reference to some cosmic event such as a supernova , while others think it may be a star map of some kind that we are too young to decipher as of yet. The speculation goes on and on, but nobody knows! I find that really interesting. Here we are so smug in our technology and full of our own cosmic significance, yet nobody knows what those 17 symbols on that rock mean.

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When the Spanish discovered Lake Okeechobee in the 16th century; they found three different indigenous tribes living around it: the Mayaimi, the Mayaka, & the Mayayuaca. Even more evidence to verify that the Mayan migration to Georgia & Florida took place as indicated. At this point, the only people refuting this are the same ones responsible for the existence of something called Forbidden Archeology; those wishing to promote only a version of history which benefits or acknowledges them, regardless of the truth. Don't we now have to at least wonder why the word Maya is prominent in each of the Lake Okeechobee tribes...and wonder as well just how the city of Miami got it's name? Hmmm. Makes ya wonder, indeed!

So, where did the Maya go? The very first thing we must ask in looking at Maya spiritual beliefs is on what basis did they feel these beliefs. Were they like us, accepting things on the say-so of the priesthood? Or, was their spirituality more experientially based? It is said that Kukulkan came from the sky to teach the people. The ancient legends say that at a prescribed moment in time, Kukulkan took eight young boys aside from the tribe: and taught them math, astronomy, engineering and many other things. These eight boys then became the first priests, who in turn would pass the knowledge on to the people, and guide them.

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From 250 to 900 AD the Maya were the most advanced astronomers on the planet. They had calculated the orbit of Venus to within 6 hours!! Since they were not around for the 6000 years needed to plot this planetary orbit...How did they come by the information? It had to come from somewhere...I mean the Maya priests didn't just pull it out of their...feathered headdress...where did the knowledge come from? A very good question if I say so myself!

Perhaps King Pakal led a Mayan migration to other destinations in the galaxy; just as the Itza Maya migrated to Florida & Georgia. To be sure, a great number of the Maya simply fled the warfare & chaos of a dying empire - to eventually be absorbed into other tribes and other cultures; which is no doubt why still today the Maya bloodline exists; in fact, my upstairs neighbor's wife has Maya blood in her veins. Not ALL of them left, many are still among us now.

But what of the rest, just where did the Maya go? You can take your best guess at that if you want, but as for me; I am more interested in where WE will go, now that we're living thru our own equivalent of the death of an empire. Where will we go when our moment in time is over, and all we've ever known ends, now that there are no more vacant lands to migrate to?

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Have you thought at all about that?


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The Adventure To Track Rock Gap Georgia Mayan Ruins and Petroglyphs~ 2012


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PostSun Nov 03, 2013 12:39 am » by Evildweeb


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That's a lot of information Kinni - but I have it on decent authority what happened to them.

They were "retrieved" and delivered off world to save them.

I will leave the details to your imagination.


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PostSun Nov 03, 2013 12:49 am » by Kinninigan


Evildweeb wrote:.

That's a lot of information Kinni - but I have it on decent authority what happened to them.

They were "retrieved" and delivered off world to save them.

I will leave the details to your imagination.


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PostSun Nov 03, 2013 12:55 am » by Kinninigan


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PostSun Nov 03, 2013 1:11 am » by kentrb


i read this the other day
it sort of insinuates an answer to what happens when cultures are conquered

http://history.hanover.edu/hhr/hhr93_2.html

to me, its more like they didnt go anywhere,they just think differently
population of south america is 390 million,give or take
i expect there is alot of immigrants in that,but would bet most of it is indigeonous of the locals

two generations to kill a language
thats my own observations,from my interactions with the local natives here
thier culture is being unwritten as we speak,mostly cause we read to much rather than speakingthats my opinion anyways

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PostSun Nov 03, 2013 1:36 am » by Kinninigan


kentrb wrote:i read this the other day
it sort of insinuates an answer to what happens when cultures are conquered

http://history.hanover.edu/hhr/hhr93_2.html

to me, its more like they didnt go anywhere,they just think differently
population of south america is 390 million,give or take
i expect there is alot of immigrants in that,but would bet most of it is indigeonous of the locals

two generations to kill a language
thats my own observations,from my interactions with the local natives here
thier culture is being unwritten as we speak,mostly cause we read to much rather than speakingthats my opinion anyways

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PostSun Nov 03, 2013 2:33 am » by Rich316


There's no off world conspiracy here. They dispersed into other areas because of drought. It really is that simple.

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PostSun Nov 03, 2013 3:31 am » by Rahkriga


Rich316 wrote:There's no off world conspiracy here. They dispersed into other areas because of drought. It really is that simple.



Exactly!!! Such a big wall of text...but the truth is suspiciously omitted. If the mayans "went somewhere" then they wouldnt have descendants living in the world today....PERIOD. Whole theory debunked with logic. It amazes me how people just dont want to think logically or do any research. They embrace the fantasy and not the truth. Instead they repeat wrong information like a squawking parrot...This is exactly how disinfo is spread...

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PostSun Nov 03, 2013 7:11 am » by Evildweeb


Rahkriga wrote:
Rich316 wrote:There's no off world conspiracy here. They dispersed into other areas because of drought. It really is that simple.



Exactly!!! Such a big wall of text...but the truth is suspiciously omitted. If the mayans "went somewhere" then they wouldnt have descendants living in the world today....PERIOD. Whole theory debunked with logic. It amazes me how people just dont want to think logically or do any research. They embrace the fantasy and not the truth. Instead they repeat wrong information like a squawking parrot...This is exactly how disinfo is spread...

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To both Rich and Rahkriga - good talking points - what evidence do you have besides Skeptic.com?

The Mayan civilization existed for well over 5-10,000 years - it would be safe to say ONE OR TWO of them slipped out and bred the entire Inca and Aztec races as well.

So tell me - where then DID the MAYA go?

(Wikipedia references excluded)

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PostSun Nov 03, 2013 4:22 pm » by Kinninigan


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The word "Maya" also means Illusion, that is interesting...


The term māyā occurs 70 times in Rigveda and around 27 times in the Atharvaveda; and in all these places Yaska, Sayana, Dayananda agree the term means Prajñā, jnana-vishesha (specific knowledge).[1] The term Asuri-Maya in the Yajurveda at one place was translated by Uvvat as the "knowledge of the vital air".[1] With regard to the usage of the word Maya in the Rigveda, Radhakrishnan opines it was only used to signify might and power.[1] Maya as the cause of illusion or as the sense of Avidya (lack of knowledge) has never been used in the Vedas.[1] According to Monier Williams, Maya meant wisdom and extraordinary power in an earlier language, but later the word came to mean illusion, fraud, deception, witchcraft, sorcery and magic

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