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 Post subject: Which one are you?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:36 pm 
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The Old World Order


They take their privileged positions for granted.
Believe that they intrinsically deserve to be at the top of society.
Believe that they are better than those who are not similarly privileged.
Believe that God/Nature has conferred their elevated status upon them (nothing to do with luck or circumstances of birth).
Are contemptuous of the members of the lower orders and find them a nuisance.
Don't care about the opinions of the lower orders.
Are obsessed with their position in the pecking order amongst their peers.
Expect the best jobs, the most beautiful partners, the highest salaries, the most choice opportunities in life.
Expect to go to the best schools and colleges and receive the finest education.
Want to be surrounded by their peers and to avoid the lower orders. They love gated communities, shut off and protected from the lower orders.
Expect "the system" to ensure that they are always taken care of.
Expect to live in the finest homes in the finest locations.
Expect to lead rather than follow.
Expect never to be subservient to a member of the lower orders.
Are contemptuous of any member of the lower orders who makes it "big" (nouveau riche/new money).
They rely on the weakness and cowardice of the lower orders.
Snobbery, elitism, class and privilege govern their lives.
Typical Old World Order President: George Bush (father or son).

On the internet, they look for exclusive sites for the social and business elite. They spend time seeking premium vacations, unique experiences, rare and expensive gifts, fashionable artworks and the latest technologies. At all times, the emphasis is on distancing themselves from ordinary people, and demonstrating that they are superior to those people.
They are ripe for the manipulations of the group that stands in the shadows behind the Old World Order, and which uses the Old World Order to advance its own nefarious and mind-boggling ends. This secret group has no connection with reptiles, but it is every bit as shocking. We deliberately say as little about this group as possible because ordinary people would not accept its existence without seeing our evidence, which we dare not show in public because worldwide chaos would ensue.






The anti New World Order

Self confident.
Self sufficient.
Suspicious of authority.
Anti-establishment.
Stubborn.
Bloody minded.
Unconcerned about the opinions/approval of others.
Certain of the correctness of their views.
Distrustful of others.
Have a low opinion of others.
Clever, but not self-critical, and lacking in self awareness.
Resent inappropriate and unmerited wealth, power and authority.
Believe that the world should accord them a much higher status.
Relatively anti-social
Masculine.
Independent.
Unfashionable.


Typical President of the anti New World Order movement: None (hence politically disenfranchised and disenchanted).


In terms of David Riesman's book The Lonely Crowd, they are "inner-directed", driven by a potent inner gyroscope that their parents instilled in them. They feel guilty if they disobey their strong moral compass. They feel good, free and vindicated if they follow it, no matter if it lands them in trouble.
They argue their case aggressively in various internet forums.





The Suckers/The Herd

Highly sociable.
Non-argumentative.
Avoid conflict.
Compliant.
Good company.
Empathic.
Feminine.
Cooperative.
Agreeable.
Consensual.
Obsessed with friendship and peer group status.
Appearance orientated.
Fashion conscious.
Want to be be loved.
Guided by group think.
Little individuality.
Anxious.
Need approval of peer group.
Typical Herd President: Barack Obama, the Social Networking President. The FaceBook/MySpace/Bebo politician. Doomed to be as disastrous as Bush.


According to Riesman, most people in the modern world are "other-directed". The greatest influence in their lives is their peer group. They have no core values and follow whatever is in vogue at a particular moment. Their stance could flip from one moment to the next depending on the people around them. As Riesman wrote, "The other-directed person wants to be loved rather than esteemed." They want to relate to others and be in emotional accord with them. They are the typical employees of large corporations - malleable, compliant, docile, easily controlled, willing to perform the humiliating 9-5 routine indefinitely. They are too busy interacting with their peers to worry about bad government, conspiracies, unlawful and unmerited authority. In other words, they are suckers, willing to tolerate any nonsense so long as it doesn't threaten their position in their peer group. They will join popular, trendy protest groups providing their friends are doing the same. Anxiety, rather than guilt, is their main affliction. They are a herd, a flock, moving in whatever random direction the most purposeful of them has chosen to go in at a particular moment. They're highly impressionable and gullible, perfect victims for advertising manipulation and the latest fads. Fundamentally, they are rudderless, have no internal values, are continually buffeted by the winds of fashion. Deep down they are profoundly lonely and in constant need of others to give them a sense of purpose. These people are Riesman's "lonely crowd." They are the perfect members of a consumer society, and have little to offer in the way of creativity, spiritual awareness, or human greatness.

On the Internet, they inhabit FaceBook, MySpace, Bebo. Social Networking sites were made for them.



The Dead Hand of the Past/The Traditionalists

Dutiful.
Obedient.
Respectful of authority.
Group-orientated.
Family and community obsessed.
Fearful and suspicious of outsiders.
Fanatical.
Completely lacking critical faculties in relation to their community's belief system.
Terrified of losing honour, of being shamed in the eyes of their community.
Lacking individuality.
Guided by group think.
Need approval of community.
Dislike outsiders.
Dislike change.
Traditional.
Typical Traditionalist President: Dwight Eisenhower.

Riesman's remaining category is the "tradition-directed"; the ancient and medieval worlds consisted mostly of this type. These people are driven by the traditions and culture of their community. They are terrified of being themselves for fear of banishment or punishment. They never rebel or challenge authority. They are governed by a mentality of avoiding shame. They are terrified of losing face, of suffering a loss of honour. They will obey idiotic rules simply because those idiotic rules have always been obeyed and no one dare challenge them. Look at Muslims, Orthodox Jews, Sikhs, Hindus and the like - wearing ludicrous, inappropriate, religiously-inspired clothes in a modern world, obeying ludicrous dietary laws based on food prohibitions that might have made sense thousands of years old but which are idiotic now, shunning and despising members of other communities that do not follow their rules. They are fearful, brainwashed people, scarcely human at all: more like machines without any stamp of individuality. They are at their happiest when they are surrounded by millions of others just like them, obeying the same absurd rules. The Islamic ceremonies at Mecca, birthplace of Mohammed, involving millions of worshippers walking in circles and reinforcing their mutual belief system, best illustrate this type of person. They lack individuality and bravery. They can only act courageously in the name of their traditions, not in their own name. Pathetic in practically every regard. A disgrace to the human race.

On the Internet, these people look for sites that reinforce their belief systems and tell them that they're "right". They rarely look at anything else. They are terrified of new ideas since these can only ever represent a challenge and threat to their current beliefs. Backward people living in backward societies.


The New World Order

The Illuminati wish to promote a new type of humanity where the "tradition" and "other"-directed types (useless, essentially) fade away, and the "inner-directed" are radically improved. The Illuminati want society to create healthy, strong individuals - neither slaves to tradition nor brainwashed by parental attitudes nor obsessed with the status of their neighbours. They want people with a solid inner core, who know who they are, and who know how to contribute to a meritocratic society based rigorously on individual talent and not privilege. The Illuminati believe in an "emergent society", a super society that emerges once the calibre of people in that society has reached an exceptionally high level, unlike anything that has been seen on earth to date. That level can never be reached in the iniquitous world of privilege of the Old World Order where consumerism defines most human destinies, and the identity of your parents is much more important than who you are.
Ironically, the people who belong to the anti New World Order movement would fare much better in a New World Order than the sad "others" and "traditionalists". Rather than fearing a New World Order, they should actively pursue it in order to overthrow the Old World Order dominated by weak and pathetic consumers (the other-orientated) and brainwashed, unthinking human automatons (the tradition-directed), and the lazy, inept and parasitical beneficiaries of privilege (the Bush Family, the British Royal Family, the Saudi Royal Family et al). The future belongs to the inner-directed. It's time to bring about that future now.

The path to salvation exists, even in this fallen world. The puppetmasters in the shadows can be defeated.
We are the Illuminati and we preach resistance to the Old World Order. We look forward to the dawn of a meritocratic future - something the world has never witnessed in its entire troubled history, something we have striven for across the millennia, all the while enduring the persecution of the Old World Order. We are the true voice in the wilderness. Faith and "good" deeds are fools' gold, the lies of false prophets and charlatans. Knowledge of the true path to the divine is all that matters. There is an ancient word for it.

Gnosis. :sunny:

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 Post subject: Re: Which one are you?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:49 pm 
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Crypt, what happened to you speaking for yourself?

I tried to send a PM to you, but this DTV system seems to be somewhat incomprehensible or non-functional.

If you've stumbled across your new world-view, great, but you might want to interject your own opinions every now and then, just to keep it sexy and interesting.

Few have the patience to read through all the uncredited info you've been posting lately, or am I to believe they are all your own words? :sunny:

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 Post subject: Re: Which one are you?
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i am my own category... :flop:

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 Post subject: Re: Which one are you?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 5:48 am 
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Here you guys go. He really likes this site.

http://armageddonconspiracy.co.uk/page21.htm


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 Post subject: Re: Which one are you?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 7:51 am 
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regardless of your source,thanks.i'll save it as a good reference piece

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 8:39 am 
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Just let it be known that my statement and link is not a statement about my beliefs about the OP, just so people can see where he is pulling these articles. The site is full of similiar such pieces and they are quite interesting reads.

I find myself reading quite a few of them.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 8:43 am 
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cornbread714 wrote:
Crypt, what happened to you speaking for yourself?

I tried to send a PM to you, but this DTV system seems to be somewhat incomprehensible or non-functional.

If you've stumbled across your new world-view, great, but you might want to interject your own opinions every now and then, just to keep it sexy and interesting.

Few have the patience to read through all the uncredited info you've been posting lately, or am I to believe they are all your own words? :sunny:

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CB, it only works with this process. If you try to access it from your "new message" link-(next to the logout option,) it will give you the option of composeing mail, inbox, outbox, etc., but all options only give you a "You are not authorized to send private messages." message.

Here's what you do:

1. click on their profile tab, (bottom left in their post.) . There you will see the options to add friend, add foe, view their posts, or 2. click on "profile" link, [u]3. click on "send message. (second tab,)" 4. etc.

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seahawk100 wrote:
CB, it only works with this process. If you try to access it from your "new message" link-(next to the logout option,) it will give you the option of composeing mail, inbox, outbox, etc., but all options only give you a "You are not authorized to send private messages." message.

Here's what you do:

1. click on their profile tab, (bottom left in their post.) . There you will see the options to add friend, add foe, view their posts, or 2. click on "profile" link, [u]3. click on "send message. (second tab,)" 4. etc.


Thanks, Seahawk. I knew there was a way but I had forgotten the necessary steps. :flop:

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cornbread714 wrote:
Crypt, what happened to you speaking for yourself?

If you've stumbled across your new world-view, great, but you might want to interject your own opinions every now and then, just to keep it sexy and interesting.

Few have the patience to read through all the uncredited info you've been posting lately, or am I to believe they are all your own words? :sunny:


I've been trying to figure it out myself on one of the previous threads he started
with the armageddon conspiracy stuff .
but cryptic decided to act according to his nick and remained cryptic .
i find it hard to believe he actually wrote it .
actually i find it hard to believe he actually believes it .
that's a weird turn of events complete flip from crypt previous behavior .
imo he just trying to confuse the enemy :lol:

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cornbread714 wrote:
Crypt, what happened to you speaking for yourself?

If you've stumbled across your new world-view, great, but you might want to interject your own opinions every now and then, just to keep it sexy and interesting.

Few have the patience to read through all the uncredited info you've been posting lately, or am I to believe they are all your own words? :sunny:


I've been trying to figure it out myself on one of the previous threads he started
with the armageddon conspiracy stuff .
but cryptic decided to act according to his nick and remained cryptic .
i find it hard to believe he actually wrote it .
actually i find it hard to believe he actually believes it .
that's a weird turn of events complete flip from crypt previous behavior .
imo he just trying to confuse the enemy :lol:


We all know the Vatican is the center of the world right? They gained massive control back in the middle ages and have maintained the largest gathering of knowledge in the world and while that knowledge is kept secret, the knowledge of that knowledge is not. It is even said that the Rothchilds got their initial funding from the Vatican so guess that would make the Vatican at the head of the Banking Cartels that seem to be working in tandem with the Royals to bankrupt almost everyone else in the world so they can move to a Neofeudalistic world closer to that which their ancestors enjoyed.

What if the Illuminati really are those whom have fought against that for years? Don't you think those old bloodlines and the bankers would want to discredit them? Portraying them as part of their old world order would indeed be a good way of doing it. If you can get everyone hating the Illuminati then they wont be looking at you while holding their torches and pitchforks. Those old bloodlines do not forget the French Revolution.

Also, I would say if the listing of all the illuminati groups that tried and failed to enlighten and awaken people throughout the years are real then I would say by now they have definately realized that the masses will not awaken and are just not capable of it. What if they believe all they can do is to try and help steer the crash in a direction that does not allow the Elites full control over everyone when it crashes? A crash that illumines rather then darkens?

I am not putting that forward as my belief but stating that it is indeed a possibility and that we shouldn't overlook such possibilities just because it hasn't always been a possibility in our minds. If go about things with that mindset then that would be contradictory to us now realizing that the world is not what we once thought it was.


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