Who is Right & Who is Wrong

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PostFri Oct 28, 2011 11:47 am » by Noentry


I would say killing innocents is wrong .
I would say loving your fellow man is good.

I would say there is a difference between good and evil on a corporeal level
If we are talking about universal divinity.then all is part of the divine so all is right.
If we are talking about man then there are many things I could mention that are wrong
racism.
hatred.
murder.
greed.
etc etc.

astroboy777 excellent thinking mans post
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The second-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking with the minority.
The first-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking."
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PostFri Oct 28, 2011 11:58 am » by Astroboy777


noentry wrote:I would say killing innocents is wrong .
I would say loving your fellow man is good.

I would say there is a difference between good and evil on a corporeal level
If we are talking about universal divinity.then all is part of the divine so all is right.
If we are talking about man then there are many things I could mention that are wrong
racism.
hatred.
murder.
greed.
etc etc.

astroboy777 excellent thinking mans post


noentry, thank you for your comment, I think... :mrgreen: :wink:
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PostFri Oct 28, 2011 12:29 pm » by Aragajag


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PostFri Oct 28, 2011 12:40 pm » by Allreadydead


Interesting question - generally speaking, firstly what is right and what is wrong? who decides? is it a moral question or a legal one? (or both!), do you decide 'right' or wrong' from a religious standpoint? (the original 10 commandments/) So from whose perceptive do you judge right or wrong?

"A story: Man high on crack, burgles a house, finds young child in bed, rapes and murders her, gets caught and is given life imprisonment - but is parolled after 10 years because he is a reformed character, a devoted christian and helper of his fellow in-mates - walks from the prison to find the child's father and two uncles there - they beat him to death with baseball bats.

Found guilty of pre-meditated murder they go to the gas chamber - no pardon."


Now who was wrong or right here?
Well, the rapist/murder was wrong for breaking into the house and committing his horrendous crime in the first place? - yes or no?

The society that free's him early from his sentence, because they had done their job and rehabilitated him, where they right to do so? yes or no?

The relatives of the dead child who waited 10 years to get 'revenge' and took it, claiming 'natural right to justice' was on their side? yes or no?

'God' for allowing it all to happen, that must be wrong? yes or no?

The legal system that would not pardon the father or uncles for such a horrific act of brutal murder done years after the original crime because they conspired to kill long before the event and were doing a great wrong? yes or no?

A system of justice that allows the death penality, and applies it some cases and not in others, simply because an act is carried out whilst under the influence of drugs or drink? yes or no?

and the list could go on - it apears that right or wrong depends entirely on who's perception that right or wrong is being viewed by, and being just human, sometimes they fuck right up! - but confusing ain't it! :| :mrgreen:

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PostFri Oct 28, 2011 12:45 pm » by Noentry


astroboy777 wrote:
noentry wrote:I would say killing innocents is wrong .
I would say loving your fellow man is good.

I would say there is a difference between good and evil on a corporeal level
If we are talking about universal divinity.then all is part of the divine so all is right.
If we are talking about man then there are many things I could mention that are wrong
racism.
hatred.
murder.
greed.
etc etc.

astroboy777 excellent thinking mans post


noentry, thank you for your comment, I think... :mrgreen: :wink:


you are welcome :flop:
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The second-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking with the minority.
The first-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking."
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PostFri Oct 28, 2011 1:11 pm » by Eliakim


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Beautiful that is exactly how a child views the world.

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PostFri Oct 28, 2011 1:21 pm » by Eliakim


allreadydead wrote:and the list could go on - it apears that right or wrong depends entirely on who's perception that right or wrong is being viewed by, and being just human, sometimes they fuck right up! - but confusing ain't it! :| :mrgreen:

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Indeed. Hence, why healing is the solution to remove perception of reality.

'Perception is an illusion that has no basis in reality'. from Sacred Words

We have mentioned in recent posts that the word THEOS has been mistranslated as God in the New Testament. In Greek Strongs, 2316, it means a 'god', or 'goddess', it is a general name of deities or divinities. In other words it is similar to ELOHIM, that means powers, but it is not exactly the same.

In Rev 3 it mentions 'Faithful and True', the ruler of Theos creation. Clearly, the word Theosophy is to do with the wisdom of the 'god's and the 'god's are mentioned in the OT, NT and Dead Sea Scrolls.

It is written that the word Theosophy came from the Greek word Theosophia and has been used in a spiritual context since the Common era. The term appeared in Neoplatonism and theosophical means wise and or skilled in divine matters. Apparently, the term was used by lamblichus (245-325) in De Mysteris.

The Oxford English Dictionary, defines theosophy as any system that bases its knowledge on the divine nature. The Theosophical Society themselves state that the first principle is 'A state of inner enlightenment or of 'Divine Wisdom'.

However, if you view any of the work of the Theosophical Society it is usually based upon knowledge instead of knowing. In its early to middle development, it also concentrated on Revelation and a series of messengers. The infighting in the movement is historical, and known about by people that have been involved with spirituality for most of their lives.

Most people with common sense became distant observers of the organization. Hence, why it did tend to attract the academic mindsets; in preference to true mystics that tend to take their own spiritual journey in aloneness. In the lead up to the harmonic concordance in 2003, Americans kept asking what organization are you from? I was divinely instructed to give them this reply the next time a person asked the same question.

'I am home grown, organic of course. Straight from the field, fresh as can be. Good for you, good for the community, an ecological, sustainable alternative, to those that are profit driven. Dedicated to a healthy consciousness, that is me’.


However, there were a few people that did get involved in the organization of Theosophy and left soon afterwards due to their control mechanisms. Christians like Alice Bailey and Rudolf Steiner are just two of the people that broke away during its early development. Rudolf Steiner did some particularly good work with education and color healing, very much aligned with the Christ teachings. Of course, color is also to do with Joseph who was predicted to come by Prophet Isaiah in the Dead Sea Scrolls.

Jezebel mentioned in Rev 2 also had her roots firmly in Theosophy and most of her followers were part of the movement. Jezebel was Elizabeth Claire Prophet (USA) who started a Church and her ways are mentioned in the biblical text, probably due to the decrees etc that she and her husband introduced.

The one known as Jesus Christ warned his followers not to babble like pagans. In other words not to recite the same words over and over again on a daily basis like Buddhists do. He also warned about the wolves in sheep clothing and it is written that ECP's original name was Wulf.

What does decrees have to do with inner enlightenment, and the teaching of ascension that the Jewish prophets imparted? Absolutely nothing.

Due to those involved chasing knowledge instead of seeking within for knowing, many of its followers took on the beliefs of others instead of knowing truth for the self.

Hence, why Rev 3 tells you that the one that was 'Faithful and True' was made ruler of the Theos creation. Why is that? The book of Revelation tells you that they were victorious and overcome, in other words they became victorious over many realities both earthly and divine. As we have shared before, there are many heavens before one reaches the Holy of Holies.

If a person just stays in one groove on a record, then one does not get to hear the whole album that as been selected for you and by you to hear pre-incarnation. Also a person that stays in one groove does not gain the divine experience of testing the spirits on the spiritual journey home to the LORD. Experience counts.

Indian spirituality had a lot to offer to the people just like Native Indian spirituality does. There are different horses for different courses. However, like all truth it is important to be discerning, in the early days of spiritual development and purification of the soul consciousness.

There are many rooms in my Father's mansion was a great way to explain that the LORD did not give the whole truth and nothing but the truth to one culture or nation. Due to the weakness of man that likes to control nature and its creation.

Hence, why in each room there is a different type of spirituality, a different piece of the jigsaw puzzle to collect, to assist the people with their spiritual growth and development. When the LORD gave me his first discourse on EGO in 2002, that basically blew away a huge part of the Indian belief system. Belief that as kept people in India and the West that embraced it, in judgement of self and others. In so doing, those people did not integrate zero judgement which is all part of the soul's evolution, of moving from being to becoming divine love in manifestation on the earth plane.

Due to my own divine training with the Son of God and its integration. I know him. I know his words and what he cares fully about. Hence, why he chose who he chose for the LORD, to be ruler of THEOS creation, because they were faithful and true to his ways; and what he was teaching. Does that make sense to you?

Sons of God are mentioned in the Dead Sea Scrolls, Sons of God plural. In the same way that holy spirits are mentioned in plural in the Dead Sea Scrolls.

My own development was largely due to the combination of the following:

1. Inner work e.g. healing for the purification of the soul and its ascent.
2. Divine instructions received directly.
3. Accepting help from other healers that were brought to me during the integration process e.g. life experience.
4. Integration of life experience and layers of inner meaning on multi-dimensional levels.

If you do not understand the signs in your own being and inner life, how can you possibly understand the signs and layers in the outer life of your experience and in nature? If people do not understand themselves and what is going on in their environment, how can they possibly understand the sacred union with the divine?

Hence why Prophet Jeremiah said "Even the stork in the sky knows her appointed seasons, and the dove, the swift and the thrush observe the time of their migration. But my people do not know the requirements of the LORD." Jer 8:7

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PostFri Oct 28, 2011 1:31 pm » by Aragajag


Lets have an orgy off doing whats right in your general surrounds,.
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PostFri Oct 28, 2011 1:41 pm » by Rydher


Astroboy = just another hypocrite preaching love, tolerance, and understanding but is as vile and venomous as anyone else.

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PostFri Oct 28, 2011 5:41 pm » by Noentry


rydher wrote:Astroboy = just another hypocrite preaching love, tolerance, and understanding but is as vile and venomous as anyone else.



you are an A class troll who talks shit and your words fit the description of you rydher

astrolboy777 is the times the man you are ,get use to it
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The second-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking with the minority.
The first-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking."
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