who or what caused the world wide economic disaster ?

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PostThu Feb 26, 2009 3:59 pm » by Harrylime


watched the video someone posted,with rep, paul kanjorski, he stated it began around 11 am sept 15 2008, with 550 billion dollars being moved electronically out of the markets, can anyone enlighten us as to what caused this, or who did ,countries hostile to the west? or an individual, this was more than blind panic, this nearly saw the total colaspe of the financial systems of the western world. :hell:

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PostThu Feb 26, 2009 4:32 pm » by Drjones


I don't want to go into all the details but what i do know is that the currrent "global financial crisis" was all planned many years ago....the question now is........what next :?: :scary:
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PostThu Feb 26, 2009 5:38 pm » by Mushroom


Who was it who said 'Id rather control a nations banks and media rather that their military'?
I think the quote was something along those lines

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PostThu Feb 26, 2009 6:30 pm » by Gazbom56


mushroom wrote:Who was it who said 'Id rather control a nations banks and media rather that their military'?
I think the quote was something along those lines

If I understand it, the banks brought it on themselves, lending hundreds of billions of Dollars, Euros and pounds to people who could never have a hope of paying it all back, most of these people are now living in tents while the bankers are being given billions, in well done old chap, bonuses!
The government's seem to think throwing more money at the problem will help but in reality it's like sticking a corn plaster over a gaping wound! Eventually, as we saw in Germany after the first world war and Zimbabwe at the moment, we will need a wheel barrow full of cash just to buy a loaf of bread and a job will be harder to find than rocking horse shit, unless your a banker that is. :ohno:

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PostThu Feb 26, 2009 7:41 pm » by Crunchy


1.5 quadrillion of derivatives is what caused it
the run on the banks may have contributed but it was a small part in the overall
scheme of things .... you could say the decline started when nixon changed the dollar from the gold standard to the fiat system

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PostThu Feb 26, 2009 8:27 pm » by Alexrubic


Apparently Minnesota congressman Charles A. Lindbergh Sr. revealed, to the US Congress sometime between 1907 and 1917, the Banker's Manifesto of 1892:

We (the bankers) must proceed with caution and guard every move made, for the lower order of people are already showing signs of restless commotion. Prudence will therefore show a policy of apparently yielding to the popular will until our plans are so far consummated that we can declare our designs without fear of any organized resistance.

Organizations in the United States should be carefully watched by our trusted men, and we must take immediate steps to control these organizations in our interest or disrupt them.

At the coming Omaha convention to be held July 4, 1892, our men must attend and direct its movement or else there will be set on foot such antagonism to our designs as may require force to overcome.

This at the present time would be premature. We are not yet ready for such a crisis. Capital must protect itself in every possible manner through combination (conspiracy) and legislation.

The courts must be called to our aid, debts must be collected, bonds and mortgages foreclosed as rapidly as possible.

When, through the process of law, the common people have lost their homes, they will be more tractable and easily governed through the influence of the strong arm of the government applied to a central power of imperial wealth under the control of the leading financiers.

People without homes will not quarrel with their leaders. History repeats itself in regular cycles. This truth is well known among our principal men who are engaged in forming an imperialism of the world. While they are doing this, the people must be kept in a state of political antagonism.

The question of tariff reform must be urged through the organization known as the Democratic Party, and the question of protection with the reciprocity must be forced to view through the Republican Party.

By thus dividing voters, we can get them to expend their energies in fighting over questions of no importance to us, except as teachers to the common herd. Thus, by discrete actions, we can secure all that has been so generously planned and successfully accomplished.


Business as usual in 2009 then?!
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PostThu Feb 26, 2009 10:09 pm » by Gazbom56


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I was walking up King Street in South Shields last Saturday morning when I was confronted with a line of four prams abreast all with pushers talking on their mobile phones whilst attempting to have a conversation with each other, they all had Paris Hilton hairstyles and fatty bare deposits hanging over the waistbands of their “tracky bottoms”, I could see eight beer barrel sized hoops hanging from multi pierced ear lobes, and eight pristine white trainers at £90 per pair. The buggies were exclusively MacLaren and the owners can not have been aged any more than seventeen at the most.
No signs of any boys, men, fathers, or whoever was responsible for the joint production of the babies, however had they been their I can almost guarantee that they would have been dressed similarly (minus the ear hoops) but with baseball caps hiding their half shaven heads, fags hanging from the corner of the mouth, and a can of Carlsberg in the mit.
In some areas it’s a common sight, no longer shocks, and is certainly accepted by many of those who live around them on council estates where the house comes with no charges attached, rent paid, council tax paid, assistance with fuel bills, and no experience of ever having a job or intention of finding one. Straight from school (with Darren’s baby) a few months at home with mother and then decamped to a council home all of Chelsea’s own. Sorted, mint, spot on, innit?

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PostThu Feb 26, 2009 11:06 pm » by Iwgmac8


mushroom wrote:Who was it who said 'Id rather control a nations banks and media rather that their military'?
I think the quote was something along those lines

Here ye go 'shroom.

Give me control of a nations money and I care not who makes their laws.
Mayer Amschel Rothschild . What a surprise. :lol:
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PostFri Feb 27, 2009 1:19 am » by Seemorebetter


Because We the sheeple are lazy...Physical and Mental labor is pain..we don't mind letting immigrants, politicians,Corporations growing our food ,while we stay entertained. :sunny: ....
The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the people versus the banks. Lord Acton quote

The modern Banking system manufactures money out of nothing. The process is perhaps the most astounding piece of sleight of hand that was ever invented. Banks can in fact inflate, mint and unmint the modern ledger-entry currency. Major L. L. B. Angus quote


Of course, we could just eliminate inflation so people could actually save money for their old age. Then they could choose their own retirement age. The obsession with encouraging everyone to spend every last dime lest it be inflated away has gone overboard.

Write the "TRUTH" on the money!

We are the ones who let it happen....If we didn't have all these commercials , :yell: Hell , we wouldn't know what we needed.......

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PostFri Feb 27, 2009 2:24 am » by Seemorebetter


This is all Benjamin Franklin fault , He Explaining to Bank of England directors his ideas on why the colonies were so prosperous . "That is simple he says : In the Colonies we issue our own money. It is called Colonial Scrip. We issue it in proper proportion
to the demands of trade and industry to make the products
pass easily from the producers to the consumers. In this manner,
creating for ourselves our own paper money, we control its
purchasing power, and we have no interest to pay no one."

Quote by:Benjamin Franklin
(1706-1790) US Founding Father
Source: (1763); as quoted in The Money Masters (1995).

Now those Bankers saw $$ :sheep: to shear. The rest "is it not written"..The Trilateralist Commission is international...(and)...is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the United States. The Trilateralist Commission represents a skillful, coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate the four centers of power - political, monetary, intellectual, and ecclesiastical.
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To be controlled in our economic pursuits means to be controlled in everything.
Fredrich August von Hayek quote

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