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PostSat Sep 10, 2011 7:30 am » by Cia212


I don't care what she thinks or says, she's beneath me. And soon, she and that husband of hers will be irrelevant. Like a bad dream that, thankfully, made me wake up.

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PostSat Sep 10, 2011 7:38 am » by domdabears


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zaff4444 wrote:Id rather (if i was american) have obama as president,John mccain is another accident waiting to happen.Wake up america.Because choosing your next president wont only effect your country,but also the rest of the world.So pay more attention in choosing who your next president will be,instead of watching wwe wrestling.Wake up,you also fatrock.

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PostSat Sep 10, 2011 8:09 am » by Thetamplar


ncb53 wrote:With all due respect, empathy is required in terms of what im about to write for those who read...

Have any of you walked into a room or place and ppl expect you to act a certain way because of how you look? "Fortunately" most dtv members are not a member of a minority, so this pain of outside perception vs inner acceptance is something the anglo saxon/white community just doesnt HAVE to deal with...

She was basically saying how when people of minority enter a institution that is predominately Anglo saxon, the result is that they stray away from their culture, which is not bad (to me) but leaving a culture behind will never help them get ahead. And from my understanding she never said ahead of or on top of the anglo saxon community but ahead of the the place the black community currently is, and she said wants to help that process....

When race is talked about, dtv, its not always a racist situation....

and the time in which this was talked about should shed some light on the context in which it was wrote for....

Now dtv do most of you at least know that obama, bush, clinton, ect are all puppets?? I blame nothing on the presidents of the past BECAUSE they are here for us to blame, a mere illusion that many have fallen for. They control as much you do...

I wonder how many of you will open your minds to at least ponder what i have written, if it is even read...


That is just not true. :badair:

White people are a growing minority in most places unless you are upper class huddled together.

She is saying much more than that and to simplify her words to your point is an affront and insult to all of us.

Yeah, great, now we are not supposed to blame the leaders because they are not our leaders but they are our leaders but we must search out these invisible masters.

That's classic ... Queens Bishops Pawn to C4 .. gotcha

No accountability whatsoever is the deal now, ya? :badair:

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PostSat Sep 10, 2011 8:46 am » by Middleman


Whatever she thought in 1985, the most radical thing she's done in the last 3 years is plant a garden and try to get kids to eat their vegetables...and she's even been vilified for that!

The Obamas are about as socialist as is politically allowable in mainstream American politics, which is to say that they're indistinguishable from the rest of the god fearing, warmongering, corporate whores.

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PostSat Sep 10, 2011 9:02 am » by Ncb53


thetamplar wrote:
ncb53 wrote:With all due respect, empathy is required in terms of what im about to write for those who read...

Have any of you walked into a room or place and ppl expect you to act a certain way because of how you look? "Fortunately" most dtv members are not a member of a minority, so this pain of outside perception vs inner acceptance is something the anglo saxon/white community just doesnt HAVE to deal with...

She was basically saying how when people of minority enter a institution that is predominately Anglo saxon, the result is that they stray away from their culture, which is not bad (to me) but leaving a culture behind will never help them get ahead. And from my understanding she never said ahead of or on top of the anglo saxon community but ahead of the the place the black community currently is, and she said wants to help that process....

When race is talked about, dtv, its not always a racist situation....

and the time in which this was talked about should shed some light on the context in which it was wrote for....

Now dtv do most of you at least know that obama, bush, clinton, ect are all puppets?? I blame nothing on the presidents of the past BECAUSE they are here for us to blame, a mere illusion that many have fallen for. They control as much you do...

I wonder how many of you will open your minds to at least ponder what i have written, if it is even read...


That is just not true. :badair:

White people are a growing minority in most places unless you are upper class huddled together.

She is saying much more than that and to simplify her words to your point is an affront and insult to all of us.

Yeah, great, now we are not supposed to blame the leaders because they are not our leaders but they are our leaders but we must search out these invisible masters.

That's classic ... Queens Bishops Pawn to C4 .. gotcha

No accountability whatsoever is the deal now, ya? :badair:


Just asking to understand ,what does white people becoming the minority have to with anything that was said though?( Just to put it out there, white people/anglo saxion do outnumber all of the races in the us, which means little cultural wise but since it was brought up itll state the fact )

I did summmarize what she said, but with all due respect what did i miss? Not saying i didnt miss anything, but for clarification i think it would be better if it was said what i missed.

And unfortunately, blaming one person for the way a whole nation is going isnt exactly logical because one person does not control all the factors of a society and its past influences that affect the future.

Example: The Federal Govt's control on the amercian dollar. Since our money is printed by a private organization, the value of it fluctuating and decreasing cannot be blamed on anyone but the fed gov. Not a person, no leader, but a corporation that has a figure head to speak as well.

Invisible leaders though, you say? Builderberg group would be a great thing to google to put a name and face on these invisible leaders.

There are many ppl to blame if you want to point fingers, yet we really should look in the mirror to see the true problem.(in other words if we as a collective was awake we wouldnt let these powerful elites/members of the builderberg group control the way things are)

The sad thing is, we all, Obama, Ben Bernake, you, me, our grandparents and our families are to blame for our reality because we all are a part of it...

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PostSat Sep 10, 2011 11:46 am » by Thetamplar


ncb53 wrote:Just asking to understand ,what does white people becoming the minority have to with anything that was said though?( Just to put it out there, white people/anglo saxion do outnumber all of the races in the us, which means little cultural wise but since it was brought up itll state the fact )

I did summmarize what she said, but with all due respect what did i miss? Not saying i didnt miss anything, but for clarification i think it would be better if it was said what i missed.

And unfortunately, blaming one person for the way a whole nation is going isnt exactly logical because one person does not control all the factors of a society and its past influences that affect the future.

Example: The Federal Govt's control on the amercian dollar. Since our money is printed by a private organization, the value of it fluctuating and decreasing cannot be blamed on anyone but the fed gov. Not a person, no leader, but a corporation that has a figure head to speak as well.

Invisible leaders though, you say? Builderberg group would be a great thing to google to put a name and face on these invisible leaders.

There are many ppl to blame if you want to point fingers, yet we really should look in the mirror to see the true problem.(in other words if we as a collective was awake we wouldnt let these powerful elites/members of the builderberg group control the way things are)

The sad thing is, we all, Obama, Ben Bernake, you, me, our grandparents and our families are to blame for our reality because we all are a part of it...


Mmm ... Fair enough.

You said, "... most dtv members are not a member of a minority, so this pain of outside perception vs inner acceptance is something the anglo saxon/white community just doesnt HAVE to deal with..." That statement is an assumption, therefore ignorant of certain facts and exceptions.

So, even though there may be more caucasians in North America, which I question, I know many caucasians who lived in and went to schools in areas of North American cities where they are minorities.

Did you read everything she wrote from that link? I can argue technicalities with you later.

I am not suggesting we blame one person. We all have a share, however small, in accountability, excepting a very small percentage of us humans. But our share is so small (almost insignificant) that what you suggest is insane. How is it, you think, that you or I are accountable for example for all this money being robbed? You think many people have not tried to stop anything like that from happening and have not taken legal action regarding so many of these kinds of things?

Some are to be held more accountable than others.

Please, it seems that you would know that.

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PostSun Sep 11, 2011 7:17 pm » by Ncb53


thetamplar wrote:
ncb53 wrote:Just asking to understand ,what does white people becoming the minority have to with anything that was said though?( Just to put it out there, white people/anglo saxion do outnumber all of the races in the us, which means little cultural wise but since it was brought up itll state the fact )

I did summmarize what she said, but with all due respect what did i miss? Not saying i didnt miss anything, but for clarification i think it would be better if it was said what i missed.

And unfortunately, blaming one person for the way a whole nation is going isnt exactly logical because one person does not control all the factors of a society and its past influences that affect the future.

Example: The Federal Govt's control on the amercian dollar. Since our money is printed by a private organization, the value of it fluctuating and decreasing cannot be blamed on anyone but the fed gov. Not a person, no leader, but a corporation that has a figure head to speak as well.

Invisible leaders though, you say? Builderberg group would be a great thing to google to put a name and face on these invisible leaders.

There are many ppl to blame if you want to point fingers, yet we really should look in the mirror to see the true problem.(in other words if we as a collective was awake we wouldnt let these powerful elites/members of the builderberg group control the way things are)

The sad thing is, we all, Obama, Ben Bernake, you, me, our grandparents and our families are to blame for our reality because we all are a part of it...


Mmm ... Fair enough.

You said, "... most dtv members are not a member of a minority, so this pain of outside perception vs inner acceptance is something the anglo saxon/white community just doesnt HAVE to deal with..." That statement is an assumption, therefore ignorant of certain facts and exceptions.

So, even though there may be more caucasians in North America, which I question, I know many caucasians who lived in and went to schools in areas of North American cities where they are minorities.

Did you read everything she wrote from that link? I can argue technicalities with you later.

I am not suggesting we blame one person. We all have a share, however small, in accountability, excepting a very small percentage of us humans. But our share is so small (almost insignificant) that what you suggest is insane. How is it, you think, that you or I are accountable for example for all this money being robbed? You think many people have not tried to stop anything like that from happening and have not taken legal action regarding so many of these kinds of things?

Some are to be held more accountable than others.

Please, it seems that you would know that.


Again the number of white ppl matters less than the impact of culture, but sense you doubt go here http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html.

And regarding what i said about most dtv member not being a part of a minority, its sad thing to notice but most people of color dont expand their horizons beyond the constraints of their environment because their environment to them takes precedence over ufos and conspiracies...

most, but not NOT all ppl i have ever met that thinks "deeper" is white/anglo saxon, or mabey im looking in the wrong part of the south(and tht was not a racially motivated opinion, its from talking with other ppl of color and observing our conversation)....

And its important if not vital to understand tht what i said is not a race thing actually,its a culture thing.

And regarding the accountable comment, of coarse some are more accountable than others. But we all do take some responsibility.

And yes even I do know that.

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PostSun Sep 11, 2011 7:51 pm » by Dustybill69


I hate to say this. Im not racist by any means. I cant say I have black friends because I will then be racist. I can say a white person, but if I say black person I get questioned. "Why do you have to say black person? Why cant you say person?" I guess Im racist? If I said "that boy dont know what he is doing", in a non racist way blacks want to beat the shit out of me. Today whites hardly even think about racist terms, or about being racist. It seems to me blacks today are more worried about pointing out racist people who are not racist at all. Whites have to watch what they say, but blacks can talk all day long. I guess now I have to go on TV with Al Sharpton, with the NAACP and make a formal apology to the black people, or I mean African Americans, woops sorry, African American decedents, or sorry people. Now this thread about Michelle Obama didn't surprise me at all. Im sure her findings were not in conclusion but her mind frame is still in the same pattern Im sure.

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PostSun Sep 11, 2011 8:16 pm » by Ncb53


dustybill69 wrote:I hate to say this. Im not racist by any means. I cant say I have black friends because I will then be racist. I can say a white person, but if I say black person I get questioned. "Why do you have to say black person? Why cant you say person?" I guess Im racist? If I said "that boy dont know what he is doing", in a non racist way blacks want to beat the shit out of me. Today whites hardly even think about racist terms, or about being racist. It seems to me blacks today are more worried about pointing out racist people who are not racist at all. Whites have to watch what they say, but blacks can talk all day long. I guess now I have to go on TV with Al Sharpton, with the NAACP and make a formal apology to the black people, or I mean African Americans, woops sorry, African American decedents, or sorry people. Now this thread about Michelle Obama didn't surprise me at all. Im sure her findings were not in conclusion but her mind frame is still in the same pattern Im sure.

Ya its is unfortunate how there are still remnants of race relation problems that exist today, and some blacks are still sensitive to it, but it is a burden we all share.

What i mean by this is that our parents/role models(even those we dont actually intend on following) and environment do shape our perceptions as much as our own mind. And in turn we shape the younger generation.

I and all the other black people i ever met dont get offened when the term black ppl is used at all, even "boy" if it isnt used in a derogatory context- and here lies the thing to note, its all about context.

But ya what you mentioned is a hurdle tht white ppl do face this generation, the context and sensitivity of racial titles, i wish our forefathers were smarter to see through the vale of race lol but a wish was just a wish.

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