Will Science Rule Out the Possibility of God?

Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:55 am » by **Daemonfoe**

Iwanci wrote:you cannot divide any number by zero nor zero into any number... if zero is the representation of nothingness then you cannot have nothing in somthing.

zero can't exist as an idea without either something opposing it, such as true/false, or an infinity of other possibilities

Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:56 am » by **Iwanci**

Nor did I call anyONE names my friend.. generalising that some people with some beliefs are sheeple is not new, in some cases you may think I am a sheeple also.. another word for follower. If this caused any offence I am sorry.

Travvy, I am glad that you haven't pushed your beliefs on others, but for the sake of the argument, I am interested in hearing of your belief in simple terms, eg, do you believe in a 'god' per se, and does this god present himself to you in human form (in your mind or thoughts)?

I think belief's are great by the way, I just think that pigeon holeing people in one belief is restrictive, ie, I believe that people can have multiple beliefs and can take learnings from all inputs, and all scriptures. Although I am not a fan of religion.

The scriptures, to me, are only representations of other people's thoughts on the subject of belief and are by no means proof of the existence of anything other than the fact that we as people do not know.

So, again, apologies if my comments caused offence.

:flop:

Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:00 am » by **Iwanci**

zero exists as a representation of nothingness only. To me it is akin to the belief in god, god is only the representation of something non existent, so maybe this is the connection between mathematics and god?

oposing forces you say? so something must oppose nothing for either to exist? What is nothing oposes nothing, does that mean that something does not exist? Or if something doesnt opose nothing does something become nothing?

intersting mind bending thoughts...

:cheers:

Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:05 am » by **Mydogma**

Daemonfoe wrote:
Iwanci wrote:you cannot divide any number by zero nor zero into any number... if zero is the representation of nothingness then you cannot have nothing in somthing.

zero can't exist as an idea without either something opposing it, such as true/false, or an infinity of other possibilities

or an infinity of other possibilities

Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:10 am » by **Iwanci**

sorry daemon,,... I misread your counter.. YES I agree, as an 'idea' zero does and must exist.

Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:31 am » by **Daemonfoe**

Iwanci wrote:zero exists as a representation of nothingness only. To me it is akin to the belief in god, god is only the representation of something non existent, so maybe this is the connection between mathematics and god?

oposing forces you say? so something must oppose nothing for either to exist? What is nothing oposes nothing, does that mean that something does not exist? Or if something doesnt opose nothing does something become nothing?

intersting mind bending thoughts...

zero multiplied by zero is always zero though, never one, nor infinity

Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:45 am » by **Iwanci**

yep thats what I said... lol

Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:55 am » by **Spock**

As long as there are questions about the universe, there will be a God. I think the more applicable question would be; "Will Science Rule Out the Possibility of Inquiry".

The status quo, in their zeal, determine what are scientific absolutes and squash inquiry into alternate plausible scenarios in their need to package and sell their definition of reality, call it McConciousness. We are witness to this now. Glaring evidence would be how the whole Edison versus Tesla charade played out, ultimately manifesting our structured lives dependent on a tight grid and everything from ridicule to outright murder of the ones trying to offer alternate, cleaner, sustainable sources of energy. Hell, even the pieces of history locked in the back rooms of the Smithsonian, that may off-balance our packaged view of history are withheld from us.

The matrix we live in is tight, and the priests regulate our reality, keeping us medicated and entertained.

Our only hope is a hope in God.

Thu Oct 04, 2012 4:21 pm » by **Richc**

Can anyone here answer me this question.. Godite or not...

Is there any valid reason why i can't state this....

God is a scientist and is currently working on a theory that Humans don't exist..

I bloody well hope he doesn't prove it... :flop:

RIK

Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:18 pm » by **Daemonfoe**

Mydogma wrote:
Daemonfoe wrote:
Iwanci wrote:you cannot divide any number by zero nor zero into any number... if zero is the representation of nothingness then you cannot have nothing in somthing.

zero can't exist as an idea without either something opposing it, such as true/false, or an infinity of other possibilities

or an infinity of other possibilities

One may pose the question: What is the opposite of infinity? Zero or one?