With every new Executive Order

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PostSun Jul 14, 2013 6:20 pm » by The57ironman


With every new Executive Order, the options that we, the people, have to seek redress for the crimes committed by the United States government are becoming more limited. Have you sent a fax or e-mail your elected representative lately about an issue of constitutional importance? How did that work out? Have you organized or attended a “rally” lately? Tell me, what has changed by your sincere efforts? Oh, and was the rally limited to a “First Amendment zone,” (or “Free Speech zone”) or a specified location where you were “allowed” to exercise your First Amendment rights granted by the U.S. Constitution? Did you even know such zones existed and if so, are they alright with you?

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/ar ... -297694710

We currently exist under a modern system of tyranny, where the criminality of our leaders is overt and oppressive, yet excused and embraced by those on both sides of the false political paradigm and propagated by the corporate media and the bobble heads of the airwaves. We’ve asked for answers about issues ranging from Benghazi to the Obama eligibility issue and dozens more, yet have received nothing but contempt for merely asking such questions. We are treated as unworthy subjects to royalty. If you don’t believe that, or need examples of this tyranny, then please get out of the way and let us adults do the heavy lifting to do what we must to get our country back on point.

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PostSun Jul 14, 2013 6:49 pm » by handy4321


The57ironman wrote:With every new Executive Order, the options that we, the people, have to seek redress for the crimes committed by the United States government are becoming more limited. Have you sent a fax or e-mail your elected representative lately about an issue of constitutional importance? How did that work out? Have you organized or attended a “rally” lately? Tell me, what has changed by your sincere efforts? Oh, and was the rally limited to a “First Amendment zone,” (or “Free Speech zone”) or a specified location where you were “allowed” to exercise your First Amendment rights granted by the U.S. Constitution? Did you even know such zones existed and if so, are they alright with you?

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/ar ... -297694710

We currently exist under a modern system of tyranny, where the criminality of our leaders is overt and oppressive, yet excused and embraced by those on both sides of the false political paradigm and propagated by the corporate media and the bobble heads of the airwaves. We’ve asked for answers about issues ranging from Benghazi to the Obama eligibility issue and dozens more, yet have received nothing but contempt for merely asking such questions. We are treated as unworthy subjects to royalty. If you don’t believe that, or need examples of this tyranny, then please get out of the way and let us adults do the heavy lifting to do what we must to get our country back on point.

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You have everything so well covered in this post Iron that I have nothing to add! Kudos to you. :flop:

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PostSun Jul 14, 2013 7:59 pm » by Rizze


Is it time to overthrow the government?


Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government;

or Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or

Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.


As used in this section, the terms “organizes” and “organize”, with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.

18 USC § 2385 - Advocating overthrow of Government

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PostSun Jul 14, 2013 8:23 pm » by handy4321


Rizze wrote:Is it time to overthrow the government?


Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government;

or Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or

Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.


As used in this section, the terms “organizes” and “organize”, with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.

18 USC § 2385 - Advocating overthrow of Government

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According to the decision handed down by the Supreme Court in Marbury vs Madison, The above law/laws are NULL and VOID. This case set a precedent stating that any law that conflicts with the Constitution and Bill of Rights has NO authority.

http://www.infoplease.com/us/supreme-court/cases/ar20.html

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PostSun Jul 14, 2013 8:53 pm » by handy4321


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The Declaration of Independence: A Transcription

IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

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PostSun Jul 14, 2013 9:26 pm » by handy4321


As anyone can clearly see, we the people have always had the right to overthrow the government whenever we deem it necessary! The law, as written, has absolutely NO authority. :banana:

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PostSun Jul 14, 2013 9:29 pm » by Baboogdi


Any executive order issued by a president not legally an American citizen can't be enforceable.



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