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PostSun Apr 20, 2014 11:40 pm » by Fatdogmendoza


Women Prisoners Sterilized To Cut Welfare Costs In California

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Well, this is a story I never thought I’d be reading.

In California of all places, prison doctors have sterilized over 150 women. Why? They don’t want to have to provide welfare funding for any children they may have in the future.

The sterilization procedures cost California taxpayers $147,460 between 1997 and 2010. The doctors at the prison argue it is money well-spent.

Dr. James Heinrich, an OB-GYN at Valley State Prison for Women, said, “Over a 10-year period, that isn’t a huge amount of money compared to what you save in welfare paying for these unwanted children – as they procreated more.”
Although such procedures may seem harsh, they are not illegal. The Supreme Court ruled in 1927 that women can be forcibly sterilized in jail in Buck vs Bell. Writing for the majority, Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. said, “Three generations of imbeciles are enough.”

Holmes wrote, “We have seen more than once that the public welfare may call upon the best citizens for their lives. It would be strange if it could not call upon those who already sap the strength of the state for these lesser sacrifices, often not felt to be such by those concerned, in order to prevent our being swamped with incompetence.”
In the California prisons, the jailed women are not being forced to be sterilized. But the women say they get pressured by the doctors to make the decision. One inmate said, “I figured that’s just what happens in prison – that that’s the best kind of doctor you’re going get.”

There is a regulation in California that requires state approval for each sterilization procedure. Doctors at the prison were able to get around that, however. The prison medical manager said she signed off on the sterilizations since Heinrich listed them as a “medical emergency.”

Do you think these sterilizations are wrong? On one hand, the very idea is somewhat disturbing. On the other hand, however, it likely does prevent more generations of (expensive) children exposed to drug and crime filled lives.

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PostMon Apr 21, 2014 12:09 am » by Shikaze


I would like to refer to this thread: http://www.disclose.tv/forum/pregnancy-and-natural-birth-should-not-be-tolerated-t66641.html
The "breeding" of human beings to certain specifications seems to be a more and more interesting topic. Furthermore I noticed that the women in the picture are all African American. Of course it is widely known that African Americans are disproportionally often in prison, but it maybe closes the circle to another phenomenon: white supremacists, who are starting to become very vocal on the internet, bolstered by a dubious scientific concept called the "Bell Curve". Googling this term, together with certain racial slurs will bring you to sites that are unabashedly *vile*.

So look at whom they are reeling in
- the rednecks are with them anyway, they just get more arguments
- worried middle/lower class whites with the "scientific" proof that their subliminal racism is justified
- women/feminists/people who like to think of themselves as progessive(?)

The american penalty system raises red flags left, right and center with human right activists and is generally thought of as more of "legalized revenge" than correctional. And now they are turning these prisons even more into equivalents of animal shelters, by spaying and neutering, it is just repulsive.

I wonder if all those who support this have thought about who will be next in line...

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PostMon Apr 21, 2014 12:14 am » by Fatdogmendoza


Excellent points made Shikaze...Expect to see some vitriol on this thread. :cheers:

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PostMon Apr 21, 2014 1:39 am » by Blondie1w2000


Shikaze wrote:Of course it is widely known that African Americans are disproportionally often in prison, but it maybe closes the circle to another phenomenon: white supremacists, who are starting to become very vocal on the internet, bolstered by a dubious scientific concept called the "Bell Curve". Googling this term, together with certain racial slurs will bring you to sites that are unabashedly *vile*.




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Extremely vile. Especially with the IQ statistics and crime statistics. Vile, Vile, Vile. :top:

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PostMon Apr 21, 2014 2:07 am » by Shikaze


As I said: vile.

See, racists, or in general, people who are intolerant are like dog shit. It comes in all colours, brownish, blackish, yellowish, reddish and whitish. But at the end of the day, shit is shit.

A /insert racial slur for caucasian/ isn't a /insert racial slur for caucasian/ because he or she happens to be white, but because this person makes life needlessly worse for other hapless persons who happen to be in contact with said /insert racial slur for caucasian/.
Take the words "caucasian" and "white" and replace them with others. Same shit.

I am not saying that playing the race card should be a get out of jail free card.
I am saying that the Bell Curve was sponsored by the Pioneer Fund, an organisation linked to the doctoral advisor of a certain Dr. most of us probably do not hold in high esteem. And I am saying that I do not trust "scientific" research that is biased by that kind of money.
Who of you would believe a "scientific study" about the absolute harmlessness of bioengineered food sponsored by, let's say... Monsanto?

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PostMon Apr 21, 2014 2:18 am » by Doogle


Blondie1w2000 wrote:
Shikaze wrote:Of course it is widely known that African Americans are disproportionally often in prison, but it maybe closes the circle to another phenomenon: white supremacists, who are starting to become very vocal on the internet, bolstered by a dubious scientific concept called the "Bell Curve". Googling this term, together with certain racial slurs will bring you to sites that are unabashedly *vile*.




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Extremely vile. Especially with the IQ statistics and crime statistics. Vile, Vile, Vile. :top:

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http://nationalblackfootsoldiernetwork.blogspot.com/2012/10/was-12-year-old-autumn-pasquale-still.html


Hmmmm. Plenty of vile types where I work. Mainly whites, but hey ho, we can't all be part of the master race eh.
If it ever came to a point where certain societal groups were rounded up to be victimized and done whatever with, if it was cunts that were the target, then you'd be well and truly bolloxed Blondie. (I reckon it's peroxide anyhow)

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PostMon Apr 21, 2014 2:50 am » by OtheklzeR


the forced sterilization of humans is thousands of years old
from female circumcision to castration

undesirables to the elite have been targeted by the rockafellers and the rothschilds
for 150 years, the program is called eugenics and it dosent depend on felonious assault
charges, it can be the tuskeegee airmen or the wholsale irradaition of army soilders
in the nevada desert or even harry reid killing cattle that supply food to the masses

they plan this scat very well
from rice shortages to milk prices
to gas prices

we are borg and we were ass-imlyated :hugging:

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PostMon Apr 21, 2014 3:39 am » by Shikaze


Chaindrive wrote:THIS is where, once again, and I continue to state that to which... "That you can NOT take race OUT of the equation... its impossible."

And I really HATE to burst your bubble of reality there Shikaze and thats EVERYBODY IS A RACIST... and dont sit there and say.. "Well... Im not a..." THIS is a land mine and more than enough people have noticed that when somebody says that... they find out that this person who said it is in fact to be the BIGGEST one in the group...

But altho everybody IS, its only to what degree they actually are... ever hear of road rage.. nice calm white person who wouldnt hurt a fly gets severely cut off in traffic by a bunch of blacks... and guess what he says... "FUCKIN NIGGERS!" (and you never him say it ever in a conversation neither, untill).. this is only human nature... doesnt matter if it was bred in or by nature.. its there regardless... It was stuck onto him when he was a child and no way in hell can it be ever be removed... unless you die of course..


I agree that xenophobia is a part of humans as well as a part of nature in general. Groups of animals will react warily or outright hostile if another group of animals of the same species approaches. Watch two herds of mustangs, the stallions will immediately start posturing and trying to assert their dominance. Chimpanzee clans have regular wars with each other. I'm sure you can find thousands of other examples if you want to.
My point is that, like the driving man in your example, we will not be able to fight our instincts all the time. Still, there is a difference in cursing or using foul language in an adrenaline-high situation and making a fine art of defending and justifying ones baser instincts.
Take another example, not race but gender. Statistically, more males commit violent crimes than females. Females are generally, in terms of strength and speed, at a disadvantage towards males. Most females will be wary if they are in a dark street and a couple of young men happens to approach them. They might breathe a sigh of relief when the perceived danger passes and might even have pepper spray or something in their purses to defend themselves. Are they sexist? I don't think so.
What would make them sexist would be, if they would demand that every male under the age of fifty should be chemically castrated, because they commit that many crimes *on average*.

Which would, to get back on topic, reduce the amount of "unplanned babies" as well.
Hmm... maybe I am up to something there... [/irony]

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PostMon Apr 21, 2014 4:21 am » by mediasorcery


u can blame climate change for this,

nwoooooo here we come, welcome to socialism, get used to it, everyone is a target,

the real enemy is humanity itself.
the story of life is quicker than the blink of an eye, the story of love is hello and goodbye, until we meet again my friend.

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PostMon Apr 21, 2014 4:26 am » by E6722maj


"The prison medical manager said she signed off on the sterilizations since Heinrich listed them as a “medical emergency.” "

so they class a possible 'unwanted child' (prejudged by them to be so), that might be born, at some unspecified time in the future, as an emergency?
whatever


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